• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

[GRACE] "I am so low tier..." Conquest (TV Series) vs Dr. Mario (Smash Bros.)

O0DSF0o

O0DSF0o

Messages
2,713
Reaction score
761
Conquest enters the doctors room to check on whatever disease he currently has, only to get prescribed a knuckle sandwich

Equal Speed, Battle takes place on Final Destination, base Dr. Mario used with no optional equipment

985
71rCBP0hhWL.jpg


"Not long now, huh? If you've got anything to tell the tier list, I wouldn't wait": 0
"Wahahaha!!!!!!": 8 (Arkansalter2, Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh, JustANormalLemon, MannyQ361, DemonicDude, Arceus0x, O0DSF0o, TegamiBachi25)
Incon: 0​
 
Last edited:
Dr. Mario has the AP advantage of 4.9.
Conquest has the LS advantage.
Skill? They're dead even but I'll give it to Conquest.
Dih Mario has no answer to flyers, even with his final smash. Granted, they're both CQC fighters so it shouldn't matter too much.
I'm going with Dr. Mario. Dr. Mario has significantly more options than Conquestion. I don't think Conquest is the type of guy to spam flight and shockwaves too much and Dr. Mario's shield won't be going down as much as usual due to the AP advantage. Overall, I think Dr. Mario takes this a good 7 times out 10, with the other 3 being grab tear GGs.
Dr. Mario, mid-high diff.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
Dr. Mario has the AP advantage of 4.9.
Conquest has the LS advantage.
Skill? They're dead even but I'll give it to Conquest.
Dih Mario has no answer to flyers, even with his final smash. Granted, they're both CQC fighters so it shouldn't matter too much.
I'm going with Dr. Mario. Dr. Mario has significantly more options than Conquestion. I don't think Conquest is the type of guy to spam flight and shockwaves too much and Dr. Mario's shield won't be going down as much as usual due to the AP advantage. Overall, I think Dr. Mario takes this a good 7 times out 10, with the other 3 being grab tear GGs.
Dr. Mario, mid-high diff.
Click to expand...
Counted
 
Wait, does Smash Bros have scaling chain, or it's just some joke about him in the game (basically, why Dr Mario is called a low tier)?
 
AppleMaker said:
Wait, does Smash Bros have scaling chain, or it's just some joke about him in the game (basically, why Dr Mario is called a low tier)?
Click to expand...
Dr. Mario scales the same as any other smash bros character, he just sorta sucks ass in ultimate
 
O0DSF0o said:
Dr. Mario scales the same as any other smash bros character, he just sorta sucks ass in ultimate
Click to expand...
Not only that, smash characters are kinda featless. I mean sure they're fighters but... so am I. They're featless fighters.
 
What happens when Conquest uh, throws him into orbit chat?
 
Arkansalter2 said:
Plus I'm pretty sure Dr. Mario may not get touched super often.
Even if he does get sent into yeetspace, he was literally on final destination and in space in god knows where. He has ways to come back as well.
Click to expand...
Lad, Conquest eclipses Dr's mobility, agility, etc, like to the point it's not even fair. There is no "he wouldn't get touched often", Conquest is going to be running circles around him as we literally just saw against someone who also eclipses Dr's mobility.
A single angled punch is going to be sending Dr into space anyway, not like he has flight to halt or redirect himself.
And Final Destination isn't "space". It might go through space but it still has its own localized conditions due to the platform such as actual gravity and so forth. That's not going to be the case here, once he's in a actual 0g vacuum space he can't really do shit.

And what ways to come back? What ways does he legitimately have to come back, especially when Conquest is just going to fly after him and continue beating him down? He doesn't have space flight, honestly given the lack of sufficient heat res I'd assume just the re-entry alone would be crippling even if he could.

There's also the stamina, Conquest is going to be fighting past normally lethal conditions, while similar is going to drop Mario, and then the LS, Conquest legitimately abuses that LS to rip and crush people.
If Conquests gets a hold of him, he's basically dead, even if Mario attacks him the whole time that Viltrumite endurance us going to hold out longer than Mario will.
 
AP advantage would make every single hit feel like getting hit with a truck.
Dr. Mario also has his shield, spot dodging, rolling, all that type of good stuff.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
AP advantage would make every single hit feel like getting hit with a truck.
Click to expand...
Yes, and?
They can fight while being gored.
Gonna need to hit a bit harder then just 4x especially when a single touch is just going to straight up BFR Mario off the battlefield and a single grab will pop him.
Arkansalter2 said:
Dr. Mario also has his shield, spot dodging, rolling, all that type of good stuff.
Click to expand...
Can't attack while shielding, wears down, consecutive hits will break it and stun if he turtles, etc.
I'm not humoring the fact your rebuke is literally "he can dodge", as if he isn't grossly outmatched in that department.
And if it's such a tremendous issue, Conquest snaps his fingers and AOEs to where Mario physically can't dodge. Honestly that same argument applies the other way around, Conquest is going to be astronomically hard to actually tag.

I also want to point out, earlier you said Conquest doesn't abuse flight, yet over 99% of all scenes with him, has him abusing flight, across the globe even, zipping in and landing sucker punches too. How is he not doing basically the only thing we've seen him do?
 
O0DSF0o said:
yeah I'm not changing the votes like the match is over, as a wise man once said: "Why are you ******' here man, you're so old go back to your wife"
Click to expand...
Because votes still have to have real reasoning behind them, and grace only really applies if there isn't active argumentation still going.
When the arguments given end up failing to account for such things as "they're fighting on like a 8m platform", treating that as legitimate is kind of absurd.
You can go read the versus match rules if ya want.
 
Chariot190 said:
Because votes still have to have real reasoning behind them, and grace only really applies if there isn't active argumentation still going.
When the arguments given end up failing to account for such things as "they're fighting on like a 8m platform", treating that as legitimate is kind of absurd.
You can go read the versus match rules if ya want.
Click to expand...
I'm pretty sure grace is over but if you wanna get the matches removed, be my guest.
 
I feel like, honestly, one thing is made clear from what Chariot said.

Dr Mario is kinda outdated in some ways. I mean, several smash stages are in deep space yet he has no space survival. His skill is also not well laid out despite him fighting the likes of Ryu. I think this match should be laid to rest for a while til that's figured out since otherwise Conquest giving Mario a space tour would be a real concern.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
I'm pretty sure grace is over but if you wanna get the matches removed, be my guest.
Click to expand...
Can I take that as a concession?
Given it's your own arguments, like it ain't my fault if your entire premise opted to ignore glaring flaws. Find it a bit odd that instead of just proving your point though you're dodging and saying go remove it, even though it's not actually added yet, this is still open, and the reasons given are being contested.
All you actually did is stall out grace.

This is exactly why grace exists to begin with, to allow people to give actual arguments (given the thread was one post then FRA train), as it stands unless you want to actually prove your arguments and answer my questions, FRA don't hold up if said "reasons" for them aren't even inherently true and instead of proving it, you've simply stalled and avoided doing so, a fact you can see in the versus thread rules btw.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Pikachu (PokéPark) vs Pikachu (Super Smash Bros.) (0-8-0) (CONCLUDED)
2
Replies
42
Views
5K
User_A_98732165489
Flashlight237
Peach (Canon) vs Giga Bowser
Replies
6
Views
3K
Flashlight237
Flashlight237
HonestlyBored24
Invincible fights other mustachioed man (Mark Grayson vs. Mario Mario) (STOMP)
Replies
11
Views
3K
HonestlyBored24
HonestlyBored24
TheGatememer
Canonical Super Smash Bros Tier List: The Revival
2
Replies
64
Views
10K
TheGatememer
TheGatememer
BajaBlastoise1329
Wario VS Donkey Kong
Replies
0
Views
994
BajaBlastoise1329
BajaBlastoise1329
Back
Top