Peach (Canon) vs Giga Bowser

[Flashlight237]

So uhh... Let's see here. So we have Peach from the Mario games, and then we have Giga Bowser, the Smash-exclusive upgrade for Bowser from the Smash series. Now, I dunno why people decided to scale any of the Smash characters to out-of-universe feats (like, what planet would Reshiram be canon to Kid Icarus?) when they could instead scale to an in-universe (i.e. the Smash Bros games themselves) feat like Palkia turning an entire landmass upside down...



...But that's besides the point. So let's see... You may be wondering, what the hell are you doing pitting a Mario character against a Smash character? Well, here's the thing. Peach in the canon universe reached levels of strength that I don't think even Fury Bowser could reliably scale to (in fact, the closest would be Rosalina thanks to Mario+Rabbids: Sparks of Hope) with just Mighty Peach, hitting 218.7 petatons. Radiant Peach upscales from this to an unknown extent from gathering power from all ten Sparklas, and Super Radiant Peach upscales further by gathering power from all the Theets from the theater. I dunno how much it would be, although just compounding 5% (the bare minimum needed for something to be statistically noticeable) twice would decently close the AP gap between Peach and Bowser.

Bowser scales to 275.93 petatons, in fact, he upscales from this to various extents, ranging from a matter comparable to giant characters to only taking damage from attacks (meaning no knockback, just damage). Of course Giga Bowser is nowhere near as big as Grape the Great, I mean look at this shit:



The best you can say is Giga Bowser's arm is the size of Mario.:

Now, before you bring up nonsense like Zone Speed, having played and beaten Princess Peach: Showtime, Radiant Peach and Super Radiant Peach fought in a rather run-of-the-mill matter despite being, well, actual flipping super forms. Super Radiant Peach's flight speed even slows down significantly whenever she fires off a Kamehameha.

Giga Bowser's ability to completely ignore normal fighting concepts like knockback will make it hard for Peach to really keep a consistent attack pattern going. He doesn't have that good of hax, yes, but at the same time, I feel that's a moot point when Peach's attacks wouldn't be able to physically move Giga Bowser.

Now, knowing Bowser, I'll add one wincon to the match-up. Basically, if Bowser manages to kidnap Peach, he'll get the win. Now, granted that may count as an incapacitation deal, but I hardly call any of Bowser's kidnappings over the past 40 years incapacitation under this wiki's ideas of incapacitation.

That being said, this is Super Radiant Peach vs Giga Bowser. Speed is equalized because I don't think Peach would even be able to exist for a Planck unit otherwise.

Here are the profiles:

Peach's Profile
Giga Bowser's Profile

Who takes this?

Princess Peach: 0
Giga Bowser: 0
Inconclusive: 0

 

[OrangeFR]

About your tangent at the beginning, the high 6-A scaling to Reshiram comes from his trophy description from Smash 3Ds, and the fact that he is also a pokeball summon that the fighters can take hits from.

As for who wins, funnily enough Peach actually completely trumps him in lifting strength so any attempt at physically restraining her would be moot and she is somewhat smarter (Gifted vs Above Average). However, Bowser has possibly infinite stamina which will help him out. They are so close in AP to where I think Bowser can just outlast her with his better stamina and neither of their haxes are significant enough to really matter. I am going with Bowser on this one.

 

[Flashlight237]

About your tangent at the beginning, the high 6-A scaling to Reshiram comes from his trophy description from Smash 3Ds, and the fact that he is also a pokeball summon that the fighters can take hits from.

As for who wins, funnily enough Peach actually completely trumps him in lifting strength so any attempt at physically restraining her would be moot and she is somewhat smarter (Gifted vs Above Average). However, Bowser has possibly infinite stamina which will help him out. They are so close in AP to where I think Bowser can just outlast her with his better stamina and neither of their haxes are significant enough to really matter. I am going with Bowser on this one.

Pretty sure trophy descriptions were just basic character bios on how they were in their respective original canons. In Pokémon's case, a lot of the time it's Pokedex entries. I don't think it makes sense to apply characters bios to the gameplay; otherwise, everyone would be whatever tier Dialga is in. It'd make sense to tier them off the feat of Palkia flipping an entire mountain (or the entire horizon if Poke Ball shenanigans count). I'm saying this as someone who owns and played every game in the series.

 

[Kurokitomo]

Hm, Bowser has Invulnerability in his profile, so theres no chance Peach can physically hurt him.

Peach has a speed amp in base, which is quite nice, I was gonna say sealing should be lights out but also her sealing is kinda trash? (Might downgrade it to limited tbh) Muting from Peach might do at least something. I noticed in her profile she has starlow who can just bfr giga bowser. But this is only done when bowser was knocked out.

Also giga bowser resists absolutely nothing. Heck her magic is stated to be a counter to bowser, i might vote peach but idk yet

 

[koopa3144]

Hm, Bowser has Invulnerability in his profile, so theres no chance Peach can physically hurt him.

He prob shouldn't have that since even as a Final Smash Giga Bowser can receive damage. His profile isn't the best rn.

 

[OrangeFR]

He prob shouldn't have that since even as a Final Smash Giga Bowser can receive damage. His profile isn't the best rn.

The invulnerability is only during a part of one attack, not during the whole time I think.

 

[Flashlight237]

The invulnerability is only during a part of one attack, not during the whole time I think.

The only thing I know he's truly invulnerable from is knockback. Weird flex to use that as a justification tho.

That's completely different from Wario Man (who could only be damaged internally) and Super Sonic (who is completely invulnerable)

Hm, Bowser has Invulnerability in his profile, so theres no chance Peach can physically hurt him.

Peach has a speed amp in base, which is quite nice, I was gonna say sealing should be lights out but also her sealing is kinda trash? (Might downgrade it to limited tbh) Muting from Peach might do at least something. I noticed in her profile she has starlow who can just bfr giga bowser. But this is only done when bowser was knocked out.

Also giga bowser resists absolutely nothing. Heck her magic is stated to be a counter to bowser, i might vote peach but idk yet

Yeah, Peach is way better at breaking seals than doing it herself. Best you can say is the Cobalt Star, maybe? But I don't think that comes standard with her equipment (especially with Super Radiant Peach who doesn't make use of any weaponry).

As for Starlow, I think they kept her exclusive to the Mario and Luigi series. In Super Radiant Peach's case, she has Stella, whom from what I've seen merges with Peach with each ensemble (Super Radiant Peach included).