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17 vs. 17

Sir_Marvulous said:
GT Scaling
(BSS) Base Goku: 1

(BSS) SS1 Goku : 50x

Rildo Base / Sigma / Meta: 1/50/50

Baby: 50 (assuming he scales to either Sigma or Meta Rildo as opposed to Base)

SS1 Goten: 2500x

SS1 Gohan: 125,000x

SS1 Goku: 6,250,000x

Majuub : 6,250,000x

Golden Great Ape/SS4: 62,500,000x

(S17) Base Gohan : 6,250,000x (Majuub expected Base Gohans KHH to be more effective than his own attacks vs S17 and was left in disbelief when it failed)

SS1 Gohan / Goku / Vegeta: 312,500,000x

SS4 Goku: 3,125,000,000x

Rage Shenron: 3,125,000,000x (no sold SS4 KHH x10)

Base Nova : 3,125,000,000x (stated to be above the previous dragons)

Base Goku: 3,125,000,000x (defeated Base Nova)

SS4 Goku : 1,562,500,000,000x

FPSS4 Goku: 15,625,000,000,000x w/ Dragon Hammer or Self Destrcution



DBS Scaling
Suppressed Beerus/Super Saiyan God Goku - 1

God's Crimson Radiance Super Saiyan Goku - 50x

Post-Zenkai Base Goku - At least 100x

Post-Battle of Gods Super Saiyan Goku - At least 5,000x

Super Saiyan Blue Goku - At least 250,000x

Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black (Regained his divinity and added it to his Super Saiyan transformation)- At least 625,000,000x

Super Saiyan Blue Goku Post-Limit Break (Overpowered Fusion Zamasu's Holy Wrath and severely damaged him when previously it took Vegeta and Trunks to repel the attack) - At least 1,250,000,000x

Base Vegito (Significantly stronger than the combined strength of Goku and Vegeta) - At least 2,500,000,000x

Super Saiyan Blue Vegito - At least 6,250,000,000,000x

Pre-Spirit Bomb Super Saiyan Rage Trunks (Damaged Giant Grotesque Fusion Zamasu, who can take many attacks from Super Saiyan Blue Vegito) - At least 6,250,000,000,000x

Super Saiyan God Goku at the beginning of the Tournament of Power (Kept up with Dyspo who was overpowering Hit before he improved) - At least 6,250,000,000,000x

Super Saiyan Blue Goku at the beginning of the Tournament of Power - At least 312,500,000,000,000x



Super 17 scales to SS4 Goku and DBS 17 scales to Early-ToP SSB Goku
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And that is quite a lowball for DBS
 
denisnic55 said:
And that is quite a lowball for DBS
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The times they are above baseline 3 universes, doesn’t look so highball

Thus, it’s Android 17 who’s far inferior to true power houses as SSB Goku
 
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