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Spider-man fights a very evil flower (0-7-0)GRACE

King_Dom470

King_Dom470

He/Him
3,420
1,847
Rules:
  • Speed equalized
  • Battle takes place in the Judgment Hall
  • Base Flowey is used
  • The characters are able to give up if they see no chance of winning/ lose the will to fight
  • SBA for everything else

Spider-Man:
430 个 Spiderman 点子


Flowey: (King_Dom470, Uuber1, LeoEpicGamer8910, Comiphorous, JustANormalLemon, SuperStar, Mariogoods)
Stream Stronger Than You - Flowey - Undertale by Demoillustrator | Listen online for free on SoundCloud
 
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So Flowey has a 2x AP advantage, the capability to **** Yu over via underground attacks, danmaku that Flowey can make undodgeable, oh, and infinite retries. Infinite retries kind of breaks Spidey here, since if Flowey knows what he's gonna do before he does it, he can set up impossible circumstances with his attacks and... yeah. Stomp match if I'm not mistaken
 
DaReaperMan said:
So Flowey has a 2x AP advantage, the capability to **** Yu over via underground attacks, danmaku that Flowey can make undodgeable, oh, and infinite retries. Infinite retries kind of breaks Spidey here, since if Flowey knows what he's gonna do before he does it, he can set up impossible circumstances with his attacks and... yeah. Stomp match if I'm not mistaken
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His precog could enable him to dodge attacks pretty effectively though (And would pretty much negate the advantage of knowing what spidey will do since spidey can also kind of do that), He could also try to web flowey up against something which would make it much easier to hit him and since flowey doesnt have the lifting strength to break out of his webbing he could just do that and theres not much flowey could really do so eventually even with his infinite retries he would just give up.
 
King_Dom470 said:
His precog could enable him to dodge attacks pretty effectively though (And would pretty much negate the advantage of knowing what spidey will do since spidey can also kind of do that), He could also try to web flowey up against something which would make it much easier to hit him and since flowey doesnt have the lifting strength to break out of his webbing he could just do that and theres not much flowey could really do so eventually even with his infinite retries he would just give up.
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Oh wow, Spider Man did a dodge, it would be just a real pity if Flowey's primary in-character move when not dicking around was to put the opponent into an undodgeable situation!

Literally, 2/3 times flowey has opened with just ******* his opponent over like that and it was his second move the one time that he didn't.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Oh wow, Spider Man did a dodge, it would be just a real pity if Flowey's primary in-character move when not dicking around was to put the opponent into an undodgeable situation!

Literally, 2/3 times flowey has opened with just ******* his opponent over like that and it was his second move the one time that he didn't.
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What do you mean undodgeable situation?
 
DaReaperMan said:
Have you ever played or watched anything about the beginning or either the Neutral or Genocide endings of Undertale?
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I have but spidey would be able to know when an attack like that is coming before flowey even starts using it probably being able to leap out of the way before hes in any actual danger.
 
King_Dom470 said:
I have but spidey would be able to know when an attack like that is coming before flowey even starts using it probably being able to leap out of the way before hes in any actual danger.
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Flowey proceeds to use his knowledge of exactly what Yu does to **** him over. Ya get what I'm stepping in chief?
 
DaReaperMan said:
Flowey proceeds to use his knowledge of exactly what Yu does to **** him over. Ya get what I'm stepping in chief?
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Dawg spidey can counter him because even if flowey knows exactly what hes going to do and does something differently next time first off he'd have to die and second spidey could just sense that floweys about to use another attack and dodge that aswell. Or alternatavly spidey could just rip flowey out of the ground and web him up and since flowey cant break out of that the fight is over.
 
King_Dom470 said:
Dawg spidey can counter him because even if flowey knows exactly what hes going to do and does something differently next time first off he'd have to die and second spidey could just sense that floweys about to use another attack and dodge that aswell. Or alternatavly spidey could just rip flowey out of the ground and web him up and since flowey cant break out of that the fight is over.
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Dawg Flowey has every single little thing Yu could ever do on lockdown and denies everything he can do.

And guess what, it doesn't matter how many "the fight is over!" Shots Yu lands, because Flowey is just gonna try again!
 
DaReaperMan said:
Dawg Flowey has every single little thing Yu could ever do on lockdown and denies everything he can do.
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He'd have to die many times over to "Have every thing Yu could ever do on lockdown"

And again Yu could end the fight just by webbing flowey up he never actually has to kill him to win
 
Adem_Warlock69 said:
Flowey is kinda forced into not giving up in SBA, pretty sure
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This right here ruins any minute chance of Yu winning mate, Flowey can't give up, so unless Yu stomps him(Yu doesn't) Flowey stomps...

Oh, right, there's a word for this.

mismatch.

Don't even bother trying to use the other 9-A key of Flowey either, that key has Nothing known about combat, and we don't even see him beyond like 3 images.
King_Dom470 said:
He'd have to die many times over to "Have every thing Yu could ever do on lockdown"

And again Yu could end the fight just by webbing flowey up he never actually has to kill him to win
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Yes.

You realize Flowey would have to be knocked out to deny Save/Load right? If you can find a flower that can be knocked out thats not from Fiction, I'll give props to you, until then, the only thing stopping Flowey from not just Loading to the beginning of the fight is just him being an psychotic asshole, and even then he'd be forced to Load before his 24 hour timer is up.
 
DaReaperMan said:
This right here ruins any minute chance of Yu winning mate, Flowey can't give up, so unless Yu stomps him(Yu doesn't) Flowey stomps...

Oh, right, there's a word for this.

mismatch.
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Fixed that a while ago.
DaReaperMan said:
You realize Flowey would have to be knocked out to deny Save/Load right? If you can find a flower that can be knocked out thats not from Fiction, I'll give props to you, until then, the only thing stopping Flowey from not just Loading to the beginning of the fight is just him being an psychotic asshole, and even then he'd be forced to Load before his 24 hour timer is up.
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Due to the fact i made it possible for flowey to give up/get bored he can still be beaten even given this fact
 
Even if you made it possible for flowey to get up/get bored and lose his ability to save

Flowey has a considerable amount of determination, notably when he fought sans for the first time he was forced to reset (not LOADs, full resets) multiple times due to it and still came back to fight him.

Anything spiderman can do against flowey isn't putting him down for long. he'll come back without a scratch to his willpower to continue.
 
Don't sans winning every time against flowey shows that precognition/instant reaction os a great counter to flowey?

Unless we are considering Sans used teleportation to dodge flowey undogeble atacks
 
Comiphorous said:
Even if you made it possible for flowey to get up/get bored and lose his ability to save

Flowey has a considerable amount of determination, notably when he fought sans for the first time he was forced to reset (not LOADs, full resets) multiple times due to it and still came back to fight him.

Anything spiderman can do against flowey isn't putting him down for long. he'll come back without a scratch to his willpower to continue.
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Sans was able to make him give up so it’s not impossible. Plus spideys precognition would definitely piss him off considering it nullifies how useful his knowledge of what spidey is going to do next because even if he switches up his attack pattern spidey will be able to sense the attack well before it’s ever a danger to him
 
King_Dom470 said:
Sans was able to make him give up so it’s not impossible. Plus spideys precognition would definitely piss him off considering it nullifies how useful his knowledge of what spidey is going to do next because even if he switches up his attack pattern spidey will be able to sense the attack well before it’s ever a danger to him
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but flowey didn't give up. thats the thing.

the only person flowey has ever failed to kill was asgore. flowey eventually killed sans in that fight. Spiderman would have to put the amount of times sans killed flowey to shame to keep him dead forever. which, is not happening considering each time he comes back he gets more and more prior knowledge, making him more and more suitable to defeat him.
 
Comiphorous said:
but flowey didn't give up. thats the thing.

the only person flowey has ever failed to kill was asgore. flowey eventually killed sans in that fight. Spiderman would have to put the amount of times sans killed flowey to shame to keep him dead forever. which, is not happening considering each time he comes back he gets more and more prior knowledge, making him more and more suitable to defeat him.
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Did flowey manage to beat sans though? I couldve sworn he was one of the few monsters that he didn't beat.
 
King_Dom470 said:
Did flowey manage to beat sans though? I couldve sworn he was one of the few monsters that he didn't beat.
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Flowey has stated he's both befriended and killed everyone (besides asgore, which is the only monster he admits he couldn't beat), so unless im forgetting something, he's never said he didn't beat sans, just that he struggled against him for a while.
 
In that case even though it might take awhile since spideys precog carries him really hard yeah flowey would probably end up winning since he was able to get past sans's instant reaction.

So imma vote Flowey FRA
 
Comiphorous said:
Flowey has stated he's both befriended and killed everyone (besides asgore, which is the only monster he admits he couldn't beat), so unless im forgetting something, he's never said he didn't beat sans, just that he struggled against him for a while.
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You are, flowey has stated that he couldn't get pass sans, that why he didn't took the souls earlier, same thing with asgore
 
Comiphorous said:
when'd he say that? i only recall him saying he struggled with sans, not outright failing to kill him.
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After extensive reserch

You are right, the only thing flowey says about sans is that Sans gave him a fair share of resets

Same can be applied to Asgore, he never said he couldn't defeat Asgore, he said he never got Asgore to show him the souls

Sorry for the missinformation
 
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