King vs Sanji rematch

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Post Vinsmoke Awakening Sanji vs King

Location: Live Onigashima Hall

They are in character and start 30m away.


King:

Sanji:

Incon:

 

[Noneless21]

yes i agree FRA

 

[Confluctor]

Moved

 

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Attack Potency:

King: 1.032 Petatons in base w/ his sword (Scales to Marco's Zoan durability via cutting his wing off), higher w/ Zoan forms & Imperial Flames, even higher w/ Buso and far higher w/ his strongest attacks​

Sanji: 760 Teratons (Scales above his prior self who was slightly weaker than Hybrid Queen's physicals), higher w/ Diable Jambe and even higher w/ Ifrit Jambe​

 

[Noneless21]

so King holds the AP advantage, does Sanji has good Buso? since Zoro need Enma to harm and beat King so I presume Sanji will get an even harder time to take down King

 

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so King holds the AP advantage, does Sanji has good Buso? since Zoro need Enma to harm and beat King so I presume Sanji will get an even harder time to take down King

Sanji's Buso potency scaling looks like this:
FMI Luffy < WCI Sanji < Wano Sanji (2 layers)

King's Buso potency scaling is this:
Average Haki < Pica's Haki < DR Zoro's Haki < Wano Zoro's Haki < 1032 Zoro's Haki < King's & 1035 Zoro's Haki (5 Layers)

 

[Noneless21]

So King holds a big advantage regarding buso, i think King takes this more than not but i could be wrong

 

[Eseseso]

Doesn't Ifrit Jambe scale above Marco due to doing more damage to Queen?

 

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Doesn't Ifrit Jambe scale above Marco due to doing more damage to Queen?

I'm not sure, going to quote the post from in the revision thread:

"Greater" no, it wasn't.

"Comparable" idk, there is literally no way of measuring Sanji's damage to Queen that is superior in any way, shape, or form to Marco's damage.
Let's talk about Zoan Queen's reaction to Marco's attacks vs Sanji's attacks

Hybrid Marco​

Before we say anything, let it be known that Marco is exhausted. Marco is canonically tired as hell, breathing hard. He even said that Chopper should hurry up, hinting to him not lasting that much longer. So that's that.

For Marco's Phoenix Brand, Queen was coughing out and choking on his own blood from a single attack.
Queen directly says "that hurt" to his Phoenix Brand. Quite blatantly says that his attack hurt.

To his base, Marco sent him flying very far, had him screaming "Gaaah" and left a mark on his face with a different attack.

Pre-Awakening Sanji​

First things first we already know Sanji has dura neg, but even with that he shows inferior feats.

Sanji's first attack to Queen was when he intercepted his metal teeth bite (and broke the metal teeth) with a Rotisserie Strike. He sent him spinning and he made him hit the floor.
Basic science.
Aside from the fact that Sanji's attacks always send people flying (even when it doesn't hurt them)

Sanji sent Vergo flying with a Flanchet Strike and noted that he used Tekkai from the lack of damage he took. Still sent him flying.
Sanji sent Jabra flying with a Cuisseau Shoot and he got up immediately. Relatively fine.
Sanji and Bon Clay sent each other flying and they were fine.
Sanji has been sent flying before with no damage.

Sanji sent him flying because a lot of his attacks send people flying, regardless of if they hurt or not, which is why Queen has no wounds or coughed blood from that.
Sanji sent him falling because he targeted his head. Targetting his head drastically shat on his center of gravity, which is what targetting the head does, making him fall. He hit him in the side of his face. Sending his head flying as well is on top of that.

Sanji's Collier Strike only did anything because he blew up the laser in his mouth.

Queen then goes hybrid, which drastically lowers his bodymass and size, making it easier to knock him around (source? science).

Then Sanji kicks him back. Does no damage, just knocks him back.
Sanji's Mouton Mallet didn't hurt Queen at all. Queen said that he didn't even feel it. Already that puts that technique drastically ridiculously below Phoenix Brand, which he says hurt him.
Sanji hits him with a Grill Shot and admits that he needs a better way to get through his dino toughness. Queen compliments the hit, but doesn't give it props on damage.
That mark isn't a legitimate wound. It's on all of Sanji's grill shot victims. It's just an effect that goes away very quickly, like it did on Surume.

Post-Awakening Sanji​

Next, Sanji hits him with a nasty Hell Memories hit, which was ridiculously off guard via his attacker being invisible and he sent him flying.
Queen jumped up from it casually and was talking about something completely unrelated to the fight, AKA the damage wasn't enough to make him seethe in pain or anything.

Sanji then broke his metal arm with a regular DJ kick. If his Hell Memories barely phased Queen but he broke his mech arm, his mech arm < his body's dura.
He hit him with a Flanchet Flayer. He pretty much blatantly says that he put him on his knees cause of the last attack and the combination of the damage of all of his attacks, AKA, not this move alone.

Ifrit Jambe is self explanatory.

Conclusion​

A tired Marco's first hit on a peak health Queen was enough to make Queen note that the attack hurt him, and he spit out massive amounts of blood and choked on the blood as well, all from hitting him in his chest which is meters away from his mouth.

Sanji didn't do anything to Queen until he was awakened and Queen was tired.

So outside of Ifrit Jambe on the partially unconscious injured tired Queen, I'm confused on where Sanji does more damage to Marco

Seems that Sanji doing more damage with ifrit could be effected by Queen being injured and tired as well as being a combination attack of ten consecutive blows while Marco's damage to Queen was against a healthy Queen while Marco was tired with just one blow. From what I'm reading it doesn't seem like that would make Sanji scale above Marco, but I might be wrong on this.

 

[Nierre]

Following

 

[Kachon123]

Voting Sanji. King doesn't really have an answer to Ifrit Jambe's heat. Sanji could also very easily outlast him as King ran out of energy quite quickly during his fight with Zoro. Sanji's speed also far upscales above King, so King would have a hard time tracking him when he's going max speed.

Pre Upgrade Base Sanji Speed ~ Flame Off King Speed < Diable Pre Upgrade Sanji Speed < FTE < Base Current Sanji Speed < Diable Current Sanji Speed < Ifrit Current Sanji Speed

 

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Voting for King, He holds the AP & Buso potency advantage as stated above but alongside this:

Ifrit Jambe isn't super relevant to the fight; First of all it's not something Sanji starts with or can keep up for long as seen in the Queen fight, after using it Sanji was fully passed out due to the energy tax of it. King already scales above his own flames heat potency which scale above Zoro's heat resistance. On top of that he has buso's heat resistance which for Sanji is partly why he can resist Ifrit's heat himself not to mention that the actual AP of Ifrit isn't enough to bypass King's durability.

Speed wise pre-awakening Sanji doesn't scale to Base King w/ his flame off as that's more than likely an art error considering before and immediately after King had his flame turned on; it also doesn't work considering King with his flame on tagged Raid Suit Sanji in base and caught him him a peck in Zoan form without him being able to escape. Speed scaling wise:

King: Base Sanji ~ Zoan Queen < Big Mom / Zoan Marco ~ Base Zoro / Base King (Zoro intercepted her attacks. King tagged him) < Zoan King << King with his flame off << Imperial Deep Pride Stake​

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Sanji: Zoan Queen ~ Base Sanji < Diable Jambe << FTE Mode (Moved FTE to Queen) < Ifrit Jambe​

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King has more than one wincon here but a really easy one would be tanking anything base or diable jambe Sanji uses, grabbing him when he attacks with his superior lifting strength and then self-destructing killing Sanji.

 

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King FRA

 

[Kachon123]

First of all it's not something Sanji starts with or can keep up for long as seen in the Queen fight, after using it Sanji was fully passed out due to the energy tax of it.

Sanji didn't pass out due to Ifrit Jambe. He passed out due to everything he went through during the Raid. He took King's finisher attack head on, got tortured by Black Maria, fended off a hoard of Beast Pirates while carrying Zoro on his back to protect him, Saving Chopper and the Alliance from Perospero and Queen, Saving Marco from both King and Queen, then having his bones broken and his organs ruptured. Saying that him passing out was only due to Ifrit Jambe is being disingenuous.

Ifrit Jambe isn't super relevant to the fight

It will be. Sanji basically said that he wasn't going all out during his fight with Queen, and when Queen asked Sanji to show him his power, Sanji blitzed him and immediately turned on Ifrit. If Sanji is in a disadvantage, he would 100% use Ifrit, which like I said, King has no answer for. He would get melted from the inside out.

On top of that he has buso's heat resistance which for Sanji is partly why he can resist Ifrit's heat himself not to mention that the actual AP of Ifrit isn't enough to bypass King's durability.

You can't scale heat res from Sanji's Buso to King's Buso like that. The Durability Negation of Ifrit comes from it's heat, not it's AP really. The heat is way too intense for King and would just melt through his skin into his organs.

Speed wise pre-awakening Sanji doesn't scale to Base King w/ his flame off as that's more than likely an art error considering before and immediately after King had his flame turned on;

Him turning it off doesn't mean that it's an art error. This just means that King tried to kick Sanji, but Sanji was able to block. He turned it off for the speed boost, but Sanji was able to block again. It's not an art error.

it also doesn't work considering King with his flame on tagged Raid Suit Sanji in base and caught him him a peck in Zoan form without him being able to escape.

King being able to catch Sanji is due to Sanji being distracted looking over to Momonosuke. Sanji couldn't escape because King was just too strong at the time.

Speed scaling wise:
King: Base Sanji ~ Zoan Queen < Big Mom / Zoan Marco ~ Base Zoro / Base King (Zoro intercepted her attacks. King tagged him) < Zoan King << King with his flame off << Imperial Deep Pride Stake

Sanji: Zoan Queen ~ Base Sanji < Diable Jambe << FTE Mode (Moved FTE to Queen) < Ifrit Jambe

Sanji: Base Sanji Pre Germa ~ Flame Off King < Diable Jambe Pre Germa << Base Sanji < Diable Jambe < Ifrit Jambe.

and then self-destructing killing him.

What's stopping Sanji from regenerating? The heat from the explosion would be less than that of Ifrit, so if Sanji covered himself in Armament the same way Zoro did, he could easily tank it.

 

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Saying that him passing out was only due to Ifrit Jambe is being disingenuous.

Queen went commenting on his FTE mode says he can't keep it up for long, ifrit would be even worse and this is proven by how he can't even stay on his feet afterwards, sure, the fight prior had an effect but those techniques being stamina taxing were the cause of him passing out.

It will be. Sanji basically said that he wasn't going all out during his fight with Queen

First of all use Viz and show the full panel, all these panels say is that Awakening Sanji is stronger than he was Pre-Awakening and that Queen is taking damage and running low on stamina.

Ifrit. If Sanji is in a disadvantage, he would 100% use Ifrit, which like I said, King has no answer for. He would get melted from the inside out.

Sure he would, would he start with it before testing out base and Diable Jambe for the majority of the time first tho? Absolutely not.

Also King does have an answer for it, stop wanking its heat scaling; Queen with no defenses up was able to take ten consecutive hits from it with only minor burns to show for it, Sanji himself resists it completely with less potent Buso than King.

You can't scale heat res from Sanji's Buso to King's Buso like that. The Durability Negation of Ifrit comes from it's heat, not it's AP really. The heat is way too intense for King and would ju

I can actually, Kings Buso potency is greater than Sanji's this his heat resistance is better than Sanji's buso. Never claimed it's durability negation would I'm saying the AP value it possesses wouldn't harm him.

Him turning it off doesn't mean that it's an art error. This just means that King tried to kick Sanji, but Sanji was able to block. He turned it off for the speed boost, but Sanji was able to block again. It's not an art error.

It absolutely is and we've discussed this before, there's a reason Sanji doesn't have that speed scaling on his profile.

King being able to catch Sanji is due to Sanji being distracted looking over to Momonosuke. Sanji couldn't escape because King was just too strong at the time.

How many times have I heard this excuse, Sanji wasn't distracted he gave a thumbs up willingly his kenbun would still be active yet he got tagged.

He was too strong, but here's the thing if Sanji scaled to flame off King he could escape that attack with the speed advantage and his raid suit flight easily, but he couldn't he was completely caught in Zoan Kings speed.

Sanji: Base Sanji Pre Germa ~ Flame Off King < Diable Jambe Pre Germa << Base Sanji < Diable Jambe < Ifrit Jambe.

Wrong as I already brought up, also use the profiles please. Pre Awakening and Post Awakening Base Sanji are relative. Also why are you scaleling Raid Suit Sanji's feats to Base?

What's stopping Sanji from regenerating? The heat from the explosion would be less than that of Ifrit, so if Sanji covered himself in Armament the same way Zoro did, he could easily tank it

His regeneration doesn't work like that, the regular regeneration that allows him to heal wounds like cuts and stabs isn't that fast but his fast regeneration that allows his exo skeleton to repair itself from being misshaped isn't helping him here like it didn't help him against Queen w/ the Germa abilities.

Zoro's base durability scales well above Sanji's buso durability as does his buso potency, and the self Destruction would have killed base Zoro, so yeah Sanji dies.

 

[Kachon123]

Queen went commenting on his FTE mode says he can't keep it up for long

How is Queen a reliable source? He has no idea how Sanji's abilities work, and he was making a guess.

ifrit would be even worse and this is proven by how he can't even stay on his feet afterwards

Obviously Ifrit takes stamina, but saying that Sanji can't keep it up for long is baseless.

First of all use Viz and show the full panel, all these panels say is that Awakening Sanji is stronger than he was Pre-Awakening and that Queen is taking damage and running low on stamina.

Sanji was getting tossed around by Queen's Germa attacks, then Sanji kicked off Queen's arm, used Flanchet Strike, then did what I said he did earlier. That's the context.

Queen with no defenses up was able to take ten consecutive hits from it

Are you kidding me? After one hit, Queen was on his knees coughing out blood. Bouef Burst is a Combo attack just like Veau Vengeance. Who's to say all of those attacks were needed to take Queen out, especially considering what one kick did to him.

only minor burns to show for it,

Minor Burns? Let's not lie Emin.

Sanji himself resists it completely with less potent Buso than King.

How is King's Buso more potent than Sanji's?

I can actually, Kings Buso potency is greater than Sanji's thus his heat resistance is better than Sanji's buso

Proof?

Never claimed it's durability negation would I'm saying the AP value it possesses wouldn't harm him.

Has King shown high internal durability?

Pre Awakening and Post Awakening Base Sanji are relative

Diable Sanji Pre Germa could be reacted to by Queen while the same couldn't be said for Current Base Sanji

Also why are you scaleling Raid Suit Sanji's feats to Base?

Raid Suit only boosts speed when he uses the speed boosters afaik, which was not shown when he blocked King.

 

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How is Queen a reliable source? He has no idea how Sanji's

He has the same Germa abilities as Sanji, that FTE movement was the same move Niji used.

Obviously Ifrit takes stamina, but saying that Sanji can't keep it up for long is baseless.

Immediately after using it he's shown breathing heavily and struggled to stay conscious before passing out and he wasn't like that prior to ifrit.

Are you kidding me? After one hit, Queen was on his knees coughing out blood. Bouef Burst is a Combo attack just like Veau Vengeance. Who's to say all of those attacks were needed to take Queen out, especially considering what one kick did to him.

Yes, it made him spit up blood which is the striking strength of it, meaning AP, not heat. Queen survived the heat with only minor burns to show for it with the worst damage coming from the actual striking strength of the hits.

Minor Burns? Let's not lie Emin.

Who's lying? There only minor burns showed on him, unless you're confusing blood for burn marks.

How is King's Buso more potent than Sanji's

5 layers over baseline, Sanji's is 2 over baseline.

Proof?

Sanji trained his buso to increase its Buso potency to allow it greater heat resistance, King has greater Buso potency than that Sanji thus has superior heat resistance to him.

Diable Sanji Pre Germa could be reacted to by Queen while the same couldn't be said for Current Base Sanji

The accepted speed scaling says he does.

Raid Suit only boosts speed when he uses the speed boosters afaik, which was not shown when he blocked King.

We don't see Sanji's actions prior to them clashing due to him being invisible and part of it being off-screened, but the anime clarifies him using his raid suit boosters.

 

[Kachon123]

that FTE movement was the same move Niji used.

Proof?

Immediately after using it he's shown breathing heavily and struggled to stay conscious before passing out and he wasn't like that prior to ifrit.

He literally was ?

There only minor burns showed on him, unless you're confusing blood for burn marks

Those are burn marks Emin.

5 layers over baseline, Sanji's is 2 over baseline.

Sanji saying this implies that prior to having Exoskeleton, his Haki potency wasn't enough to withstand Ifrit's heat. The main factor that allowed him to use Ifrit is his Exoskeleton Protection. King's haki doesn't resist Ifrit's heat.

The accepted speed scaling says he does.

Doesn't mean that it's correct.

We don't see Sanji's actions prior to them clashing due to him being invisible and part of it being off-screened, but the anime clarifies him using his raid suit boosters.

The anime doesn't even have the second clash. It also adds a bunch of scenes that wasn't in the manga.

 

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Proof?

I'll take my point back on this, it's the same technique Sanji's used since WCI where he uses all his speed at once to move FTE compared to his opponent.

Those are burn marks Emin.

It's blood, it's the same effect that blood has had during the manga.

Sanji saying this implies that prior to having Exoskeleton, his Haki potency wasn't enough to withstand Ifrit's heat. The main factor that allowed him to use Ifrit is his Exoskeleton Protection. King's haki doesn't resist Ifrit's heat.

You should check my initial message before bringing up points I never made, I said Sanji's buso was partially responsible for allowing him to resist ifirit's heat completely. The exe-skeleton paired with his trained Buso heat resistance allowed him to resist it. I made the claim that King with his fire resistance and superior Buso could resist it, at the very least to a decent extent and not getting completely burned like you claimed.

Doesn't mean that it's correct.

It means it's what we use in the versus theads.

The anime doesn't even have the second clash. It also adds a bunch of scenes that wasn't in the manga.

The anime does that a lot, but it doesn't change that Sanji was actively using the raid suits boosters which isn't clear in the manga.

 

[Kachon123]

I'll take my point back on this, it's the same technique Sanji's used since WCI where he uses all his speed at once to move FTE compared to his opponent.

Ok, so how do we know that Queen's word is the truth?

It's blood, it's the same effect that blood has had during the manga.

You're being disingenuous right now. Of course there's some blood, but we see that he's scorched all around.

I made the claim that King with his fire resistance and superior Buso could resist it, at the very least to a decent extent and not getting completely burned like you claimed.

Queen couldn't resist it, and from what we've seen, King usually only uses Buso on his sword. Sanji hitting him would mostly be his base resistance similar to what happened to Queen.

The anime does that a lot, but it doesn't change that Sanji was actively using the raid suits boosters which isn't clear in the manga.

It's not like it wasn't clear in the manga. The manga shows this when RS Sanji uses boosters. That was not present here.

 

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Ok, so how do we know that Queen's word is the truth?

I looked at the Viz and he says the moment Sanji appears he'll be out of stamina, that means Sanji will be visible when he can no longer keep that speed up which is obvious.

As for if or how long Sanji can keep that speed up it can be assumed he can't keep it up indefinitely otherwise he would have done so several times in the series in situations where he could avoid damage.

You're being disingenuous right now. Of course there's some blood, but we see that he's scorched all around.

I'm saying that what you're interpreting as scorch marks I'm interpreting as blood as the mangas effect for blood wounds look like that.

Queen couldn't resist it, and from what we've seen, King usually only uses Buso on his sword. Sanji hitting him would mostly be his base resistance similar to what happened to Queen.

Queen couldn't resist it but he's also not using buso in that instance, which is why before I said he had no defenses up as he wasn't focused on Sanji when he was assaulted as he assumed he was safe due to invisibility.

He only shows Buso Koka on his sword but there's nothing stopping him from covering his whole body in invisible Buso like Zoro did to protect himself from the self Destruction. King also wouldn't fall for the trap of thinking he's safe by relying on invisibility like Queen did.

It's not like it wasn't clear in the manga. The manga shows this when RS Sanji uses boosters. That was not present here.

We see both in the anime and manga prior to hitting someone he activates his boosters like that, however when making impact we don't see them act like that, this is because the kick that's being boosted has made impact.

In the anime scene we see that he uses his boosters prior to clashing kicks with King but after the impact the boosters weren't being used.

 

[Kachon123]

We see both in the anime and manga prior to hitting someone he activates his boosters like that, however when making impact we don't see them act like that, this is because the kick that's being boosted has made impact.

In the anime scene we see that he uses his boosters prior to clashing kicks with King but after the impact the boosters weren't being used.

Sanji's boosters propel him in one way. They shoot behind him and push his legs/body forward. If Sanji used the boosters, his legs would have been positioned in a way that the boosters would be helpful, like this. Sanji blocked Flame Off King with a knee, not a kick, and his leg wasn't even in a position where the boosters would have done anything.

 

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Sanji's boosters propel him in one way. They shoot behind him and push his legs/body forward. If Sanji used the boosters, his legs would have been positioned in a way that the boosters would be helpful, like this. Sanji blocked Flame Off King with a knee, not a kick, and his leg wasn't even in a position where the boosters would have done anything.

Sorry but the anime showed that he kicked/blocked King in pretty much the same way with the assistance of the boosters so he was most likely using them.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I'm not sure, going to quote the post from in the revision thread:


Seems that Sanji doing more damage with ifrit could be effected by Queen being injured and tired as well as being a combination attack of ten consecutive blows while Marco's damage to Queen was against a healthy Queen while Marco was tired with just one blow. From what I'm reading it doesn't seem like that would make Sanji scale above Marco, but I might be wrong on this.

Slight nitpick but the part where you say Queen says that it hurt links to an image of perospero lol.

 

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Slight nitpick but the part where you say Queen says that it hurt links to an image of perospero lol.

Oh yeah, wasn't me that said that so I can't correct the link.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Also I think King takes this. Reason One:
King explodes and Zoro says he would have died without guarding with haki, and then he uses Shishi Sonson on him, and King completely tanks it immediately after tanking the explosion that would have executed Zero
Reason 2: He tanked attacks with Advanced Conq and adequate armament in them, something that even base Kaidou can't really do.
Reason 3: He's hotter than Sanji. I mean that in both ways.

 

[Kachon123]

and Zoro says he would have died without guarding with haki, and then he uses Shishi Sonson on him, and King completely tanks it immediately after tanking the explosion that would have executed Zero

What's stopping Sanji from predicting with Kenbun and avoiding the explosion?

Reason 2: He tanked attacks with Advanced Conq and adequate armament in them,

He never tanked and attack with ACoC. He got diced whenever he got hit with it.

something that even base Kaidou can't really do.

King was blocking while Kaido wasn't. Not a very good comparison.

Reason 3: He's hotter than Sanji. I mean that in both ways.

Sanji's heat vastly surpasses any flame based attack King has.

 

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What's stopping Sanji from predicting with Kenbun and avoiding the explosion?

King has the same tier of kenbun, although if he grabs him prior to exploding there isn't much Sanji can do to escape.

 

[Kachon123]

King has the same tier of kenbun, although if he grabs him prior to exploding there isn't much Sanji can do to escape.

He can't grab Sanji. Sanji is much faster, and if he tries, the heat of Ifrit would make him reel back.

 

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He can't grab Sanji. Sanji is much faster, and if he tries, the heat of Ifrit would make him reel back.

Already covered this in my previous posts.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

What's stopping Sanji from predicting with Kenbun and avoiding the explosion?

He never tanked and attack with ACoC. He got diced whenever he got hit with it.

Did you seriously post the scan where Zoro found out King's weakness and attacked his weaker transformation? Also, how is he going to predict an explosion like that? It happens the instant you hit his stomach.

 

[Kachon123]

Did you seriously post the scan where Zoro found out King's weakness and attacked his weaker transformation?

ACoC Zoro never hit Flame On King. Reread the fight.

 

[Kachon123]

Also, how is he going to predict an explosion like that? It happens the instant you hit his stomach.

Kenbun senses the intentions of others. He would be able to predict what King's motive is and avoid hitting him when he's about to explode.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

He can't grab Sanji. Sanji is much faster, and if he tries, the heat of Ifrit would make him reel back.

He is immune to heat manipulation lmfao. It's been covered a lot. Even Queen said he can survive in any condition and King's entire power is based around flame manipulation.

 

[Kachon123]

He is immune to heat manipulation lmfao. It's been covered a lot. Even Queen said he can survive in any condition and King's entire power is based around flame manipulation.

Do you know how hot Ifrit is compared to King's heat resistance?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Do you know how hot Ifrit is compared to King's heat resistance?

You're clearly not too good at reasoning for Sanji. I just said he resists his own heat and Queen confirmed he can resist any condition

 

[Kachon123]

You're clearly not too good at reasoning for Sanji. I just said he resists his own heat and Queen confirmed he can resist any condition

King resists heat, yes, but on the level of Sanji's **** no. It's NLF to say that he can resist it because Queen said that Lunarians can survive in 'any natural environment'.

 

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[That_moron2]

Sanji's heat got downgraded Kachon. With that it's safe to say that King's fire is hotter than Sanji being compared with Magma and all. King wins.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Yeah I think King wins honestly. Along with moron's reason I don't think Sanji can break though King's defense, or match his flame off speed, he gets spanked. Plus the explosion that King uses, even if Sanji knows he'll explode on impact, it'll still keep him away.