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i see! thank you.
although i agree that toxin > carnage > venom, we just have no AP feats atm, so toxin is
At least High 8-C, possibly/likely 8-B
but not def 8-B. is that correct?
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i see! thank you.
although i agree that toxin > carnage > venom, we just have no AP feats atm, so toxin is
At least High 8-C, possibly/likely 8-B
but not def 8-B. is that correct?
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idk if there's a symbiote rule, but
venom (after giving birth) << carnage
and even after venom regained it's strength
venom < carnage
so it should still work for toxin, but since carnage is so unique, it might not be the case
if anything, toxin with pat = carnage with cletus at least
venom (after giving birth) << carnage
and even after venom regained it's strength
venom < carnage
so it should still work for toxin, but since carnage is so unique, it might not be the case
if anything, toxin with pat = carnage with cletus at least
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At least High 8-C, possibly higher ig
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8 tons tons to 11 tons is quite the jump, though.
It may not look big through sheer numbers, but with our rules requiring to be as conservative as possible with upscaling, I can see many other verses wanting to make similar jumps in tier, even in front of scaling chains that are way bigger than what's shown in this thread.
It may not look big through sheer numbers, but with our rules requiring to be as conservative as possible with upscaling, I can see many other verses wanting to make similar jumps in tier, even in front of scaling chains that are way bigger than what's shown in this thread.
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Ok, but 3 tons is a lot, it's 1/3 of the High 8-C tier.
Iirc we upscale characters only if the starting point is almost baseline.
I could see it if Spidey was 10.5 tons or higher, but let's add 1/3 of a third to each character who is "a few times stronger than another", and you'll have hugely inflated results.
Let alone that "a few times" and similar terms are very arbitrary, meaning that everyone can pretty much start arguing their character are more or less strong than others to have them upscaled.
Iirc we upscale characters only if the starting point is almost baseline.
I could see it if Spidey was 10.5 tons or higher, but let's add 1/3 of a third to each character who is "a few times stronger than another", and you'll have hugely inflated results.
Let alone that "a few times" and similar terms are very arbitrary, meaning that everyone can pretty much start arguing their character are more or less strong than others to have them upscaled.
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Spider-Man is 8-C I think, it's the stronger ones that scale to mettle's 8-C+.
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He's High 8-C+, but scales to about exaclty 8 tons, and to become 8-B the other characters would become 1/3 of the entire tier stronger.
Like, if we allow this, I will already start writing down which of my verses I can upgrade by 1/3 of their tier because they are "a few times stronger than another".
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Okay. Never mind then.
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Looking at the scaling once again, we have Venom, Carnage and Mark IV Spidey at High 8-C+ because they upscale from Spidey's 4.45 tons.
If that's all what they scale to, 8-B is completely out of reach for them, as they would have to literally jump more than half the tier.
Even if they scale to Mettle (and I don't know who scales to him currently) the problem is still the same, and people can just read what I've said in my previous messages.
If that's all what they scale to, 8-B is completely out of reach for them, as they would have to literally jump more than half the tier.
Even if they scale to Mettle (and I don't know who scales to him currently) the problem is still the same, and people can just read what I've said in my previous messages.
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So for reference, we have two sets of High 8-Cs, ones that scale to Spider-Man's 4.5, and the other half that scale to Mettle's 8 tons (Rhino, Sandman, and people direcly on that level)
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Ye sure
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i think so, since he did that more than one time, but his best feat was the scan of him beating both symbiotes at the same time, so it should be something like this:
at least high 8-C+ (overpowered both carnage and venom at the same time)
and i guess it's done, who would apply the changes?
at least high 8-C+ (overpowered both carnage and venom at the same time)
and i guess it's done, who would apply the changes?
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...just add it.
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Yes, feel free to do so.
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This is still going?
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Is somebody here willing to apply what has been accepted here please?
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Just. Add. It.
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Thank you for trying to help out.
Can you verify that the current information in the page is acceptable according to what we agreed here, @The_Impress ?
Venom (Edward Brock)
Eddie Brock was a journalist who tried to expose the identity of a serial killer only for the real killer to be caught by Spider-Man, thus he ended up accusing the wrong man. Disgraced, he came into contact with an alien Symbiote, rejected by Spider-Man. The Symbiote bonded with him and they...
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When was the inferior host thing accepted? I don’t remember proofing brought forth for it
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