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Currently the avatars are rated as 2-A because they have some 2-A feats such us creating the Pokémon Cosmology and some Multiversal busting feats and some ***** like that, however while this might be true except there are many issues that People hasn't noticed it yet which would be explained here :
1) Their Multiversal and Universal feats were not based on AP :
For starters as I said yes their Universal and Multiversal feats are not done via AP and it's mostly done via hax, as an example :
Palkia and Dialga were stated to have the ability to destroy the entire world until it becomes a complete nothingness this seems like an AP based attack however if we pay a close attention it says that they are destroying the universe by distorting time and space which doesn't necessarily scale to AP and it was more like due to thier Space and time powers/hax. An other example :
would Be Dialga and Palkia opening Portals to destroy the Universe which again doesn't necessarily scales to AP and it's done via Hax, an other example from the games is Dialga destroying the Universe by distorting time :
which was a chain reaction feat and it does not scale to AP and it was more like a hax based ability again same goes for Giratina who need to opne Portals/holes to destroy the Universe :
And the Conclusion is all of Arceus and the Creation Trio feats (2-A and low 2-C) are Done via Hax and there weren't a single instance where they performed a Low 2-C and 2-A feats that was done via pure AP and this includes their Creation feat as well which should be done via Hax. The only supporting evidence would probably be Arceus shaking and making 3 separated universes to collide however looking at the majority of the Low 2-C and 2-A that were done via hax + the low ends showings, it would be safe to assume that Arceus was also doing this via an ability that shouldn't scale to his actual statistics. The Fact that they don't destroy the Universe directly but they need to do ***** like Creating Portals and distorting space and time itself to bust a Universe already says a lot.
Note : Those are just some examples just to show that their low 2-C and 2-A feats are most likely done via hax and not AP since literally all of their feats were done via abilities that doesn't scale to AP and this the Reason why they are considered the God tiers of the verse is because of their Universal /Multiversal hax and abilities
2) the Low ends showings aren't Pis nor they are Outliers
Yes they are not Pis why? It's simple because they never had a single Low 2-C or 2-A AP feats to begin with, those are simply Context Clues considering most of the Low 2-C and 2-A were done via hax and some of them were done via a chain reaction and the fact that their Low ends showings are pretty consistent then it's safe to assume that Arceus and the Creation avatars does not have 2-A statistics whatsoever and I think i made it pretty clear tbh no need for further explanation.
Conclusion :
Based on this I suggest to downgrade the avatars to either tier 5 or 6 (scaling to the legendary Pokémons) however they will keep their Low 2-C / 2-A rating but it would not scales to thier actual statistics which clearly include their durability and this would obviously affect every 2-A Pokémons that scales to them
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rofessorKukui4Life, Hasty12345, DarkDragonMedeus, StrymULTRA, theultimate5105, MikeBro25
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1) Their Multiversal and Universal feats were not based on AP :
For starters as I said yes their Universal and Multiversal feats are not done via AP and it's mostly done via hax, as an example :
Palkia and Dialga were stated to have the ability to destroy the entire world until it becomes a complete nothingness this seems like an AP based attack however if we pay a close attention it says that they are destroying the universe by distorting time and space which doesn't necessarily scale to AP and it was more like due to thier Space and time powers/hax. An other example :
would Be Dialga and Palkia opening Portals to destroy the Universe which again doesn't necessarily scales to AP and it's done via Hax, an other example from the games is Dialga destroying the Universe by distorting time :
which was a chain reaction feat and it does not scale to AP and it was more like a hax based ability again same goes for Giratina who need to opne Portals/holes to destroy the Universe :
And the Conclusion is all of Arceus and the Creation Trio feats (2-A and low 2-C) are Done via Hax and there weren't a single instance where they performed a Low 2-C and 2-A feats that was done via pure AP and this includes their Creation feat as well which should be done via Hax. The only supporting evidence would probably be Arceus shaking and making 3 separated universes to collide however looking at the majority of the Low 2-C and 2-A that were done via hax + the low ends showings, it would be safe to assume that Arceus was also doing this via an ability that shouldn't scale to his actual statistics. The Fact that they don't destroy the Universe directly but they need to do ***** like Creating Portals and distorting space and time itself to bust a Universe already says a lot.
Note : Those are just some examples just to show that their low 2-C and 2-A feats are most likely done via hax and not AP since literally all of their feats were done via abilities that doesn't scale to AP and this the Reason why they are considered the God tiers of the verse is because of their Universal /Multiversal hax and abilities
2) the Low ends showings aren't Pis nor they are Outliers
Yes they are not Pis why? It's simple because they never had a single Low 2-C or 2-A AP feats to begin with, those are simply Context Clues considering most of the Low 2-C and 2-A were done via hax and some of them were done via a chain reaction and the fact that their Low ends showings are pretty consistent then it's safe to assume that Arceus and the Creation avatars does not have 2-A statistics whatsoever and I think i made it pretty clear tbh no need for further explanation.
Conclusion :
Based on this I suggest to downgrade the avatars to either tier 5 or 6 (scaling to the legendary Pokémons) however they will keep their Low 2-C / 2-A rating but it would not scales to thier actual statistics which clearly include their durability and this would obviously affect every 2-A Pokémons that scales to them
Agree :
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rofessorKukui4Life, Hasty12345, DarkDragonMedeus, StrymULTRA, theultimate5105, MikeBro25Neutral :
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