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1-A Hax for the Spectre

If maybe you can prove that his "Judgement" is the Presence acting through him then I'll agree. His judgement often goes against the interest of the Presence
 
He judges their souls and imposes the Judgement of a 1-A being from them, is it really that hard?


This is a CRT; I am revising his profile.

Derived in this context literally means embodiment, and again, The JLA scans are explictly high 1-B.

Also this is nitpicking as ive slready asked you to show me these supposed counter feats.
 
Counterfeats is him being defeated many times. He always says that he is the Judgement of God even when he gets defeated. Because him saying that he is the judgement of God is like his opening line.

He judges their souls and imposes the Judgement of a 1-A being from them, is it really that hard?

His, THE SPECTRES judgement. The Spectre is not a puppet of the Presence. He has his own will, which is why I brought up the fact that there are times that his judgement contradicts the judgement of the Presence.
 
Sandman31 said:
Counterfeats is him being defeated many times. He always says that he is the Judgement of God even when he gets defeated. Because him saying that he is the judgement of God is like his opening line.

He judges their souls and imposes the Judgement of a 1-A being from them, is it really that hard?

His, THE SPECTRES judgement. The Spectre is not a puppet of the Presence. He has his own will, which is why I brought up the fact that there are times that his judgement contradicts the judgement of the Presence.
Him being defeated doesn't contradicted the fact that his Judgement still works on 1-A beings, you haven"t provided a ocassion in which he both uses his Judgement in battle and gets beaten. Ok but that doesnt contradict anything lol

You do realize that's entire thing is mainly used for Plot? And that in itself would not contradict his basic Judgements to be 1-A? This has only been shown in Hal and Crispus spectre runs, Not Jims. (Afaik)
 
Hykuu said:
Him being defeated doesn't contradicted the fact that his Judgement still works on 1-A beings, you haven"t provided a ocassion in which he both uses his Judgement in battle and gets beaten. Ok but that doesnt contradict anything lol
No, his judgement wasnt ever shown to work on 1-A beings. Its not "still works on 1-A beings", but might work on 1-A beings. Theres a difference. You didnt offer solid evidences, just hypothesis based on his role as "God's Vengeance"

Anyway, its already late at night here and I need to wake up early tomorrow. Lets continue this discussion then. I'll also contact Azathoth and Matthew to know what their opinion is. If they agree then Ill give in and also agree
 
@Sandman31

Well, for what it is worth I think that you make sense.
 
Is Cain and Abel in the Dreaming REALLY Cain and Abel of biblical times? Cain seems very different between his Sandman and Final Crisis portrayals.
 
I think that Sandman31 mentioned that they are not.
 
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