Where are you getting the idea that the Lords birthed it? It says that "we are witnessing the act of creation" and says "oneness births duality." There's nothing in the scan that indicates who is responsible for that.
Okay, but the idea that the Lords of Order and Chaos contain all of space and time is incompatible with the rest of the cosmology, and this is an obscure author writing in an obscure comic line.
Space and time has been shown to include
innumerable higher dimensions (DC Universe presents issue #2).
This scan has been dismissed for the purposes of scaling because it has never been determined what manner "dimensions" she's talking about. Likewise, the scan does not say "higher" dimensions, just dimensions
See above.
The Godsphere is consistently stated to be outside of and transcendent to space and time.
The Godsphere has never been stated to be "transcendent" to space and time. The phrasing used is almost exclusively "beyond space and time" or something to that effect. Beyond does not indicate some kind of transcendence, it is a word that literally means "outside of."
Likewise, outside of space and time could simply mean they are outside of the universe, which is "spacetime." There is ample counter-evidence to the idea that the God Sphere is incorporeal, and the idea that time does not pass in the God Sphere is utterly incompatible with many storylines in which people go to the God Sphere and time passes on earth regularly, parallel to the duration they spend in the Sphere.
For example,
in this comic Libra
literally says that he regains his
corporeal form on Apokolips
Corporeal -
: having, consisting of, or relating to a
physical material body: such as
It's my opinion that the idea of the God Sphere being non-physical creates far too many problems and contradictions to be taken seriously, since 99% of authors ignore it, and the idea that it doesn't have time is completely wrong. However, while that specific topic doesn't need to be wrung out in this thread, the fact of the matter is portraying the non-physicality of the God Sphere as a closed case is just dishonest, there's tons of contradicting evidence.
Since the Godsphere is a higher
archetypal(Final Crisis) plane of existence that is outside of and transcendent to the space and time dual system created by the Lords of Order and Chaos, making it beyond the concepts of space and time. Therefore the Godsphere can be considered 1-A.
Batman is specifically using the word in reference to the Platonic idea of an archetype. However, the Godsphere is fundamentally incompatible with Platonism, so Batman is clearly mistaken.
- “How can the Godsphere exist beyond space and time when the Monitor Sphere has time?”
The Monitor Sphere has one statement of time existing in their world but their time exists as a literal clockwork pattern in the sky in a fundamental archetypal world of primal forms. Making it some abstract form of time that exists on a higher level, completely different from how we would perceive and understand it.
The fact that time is
different does not change the fact that the Monitor Sphere has time.
- “What about the one time where a realm was described or compared to something physical?”
Paradoxical language games.
DC has a whole scan going over it.
1. This scan was not used in reference to the Sphere of the Gods, and the scholar's explanation of cosmology is incompatible with the rest of DC
2. The comic is ancient and wasn't written by a main DC authors
3. One throw-away line in an obscure comic from the 80s cannot be used to handwave the never-ending list of contradictions that your interpretation produces
4. He said this in response to the question of where the realm is, it wasn't used in the manner that you are attempting to use it in.
The method of transportation isn't relevant to the argument. It is the fact that she maintained her original size relative to Apokoliptians, and Granny Goodness literally used the word "size." Let us remind ourselves what size means
: physical magnitude, extent, or bulk : relative or proportionate dimensions
Universe in this context literally means “a particular sphere of activity, interest, or experience.”
What on earth? This is an utterly nonsensical attempt to dismiss a clear contradiction in your evidence. That notion of the word "universe" does not refer to a place, and could not be used in the context of someone travelling.
However in my second scan it is still expressed that the dual system between Order and Chaos upholds and encompasses time and space.
That is not what the scan says, it says that the collaboration of Order and Chaos does that. Order and Chaos might be opposites, and an example of duality, but any two opposite things working in tandem cannot be equated to "duality" in the context that is relevant to 1-A.
This whole thread has strong WebCamParrot energy. That is, stitching together unrelated scans across decades of continuity, often relying on statements from comic book storylines and authors that no one has heard of in one-off comic runs, in an attempt to make a battleboarding point, rather than engaging with the source material in good faith. What we know about how DC cosmology works in current canon is incompatible with most of the notions provided here, and it isn't even clear how most of what you're saying -- even if it were true -- would qualify it was 1-A.
