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Both 5-A or Large Planet Level
Speed Equal
Both Start 5 Feet away
Fights in a Open Feild with some Trees
Summons Not Allowed
Knuckles has Optional Equipment
Who Wins and Why?
Knuckle Joe: 0 (6.510611e37 Joules)
Knuckles: 0 (6.4290767e+33 Joules)
so theirs something that bothers me when it comes to some of our profile for Kirby character.
many profiles are FLOODED with common powers that every helper has, which makes it difficult to locate what powers are actually unique to them. For example, look at the profile of someone like Broom...
I mean, they both have the work "knuckle" in their names and both are punch-happy.
Super Knuckles (5-A) is being used, Knuckle Joe's 4-A summons are restricted, and both get all of their optional equipment. Speed is equalized.
Knuckles:
Knuckle Joe:
Inconclusive:
So, looking over the pages for different Kirby characters, I'm noticing that a lot of characters get scaled from Knuckle Joe, who gets 5A from cracking Popstar in Megaton Punch.
Knuckle Joe is almost certainly a species, not an individual being. We have no reason to believe that a standard...
Continuation from this thread, we need to remake our 5-A calc for the low-tiers and make another one very similar. Which I could do, but I need to know the size of this planet.
"On a tiny star somewhere far, far away from earth, there is a special place known as Dream Land." - Kirby's Dream...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkanine/Kirby:_Knuckle_Joe_Cracks_Popstar
https://youtu.be/RfjdAcfK70Y
This calc uses the feat Knuckle Joe makes at 0:37, but he makes a better one at 2:58, not to mention Iron Mom's even better feat at 3:20...
The notion of the megaton punch being canon and useable seems to be a notion that we take for granted and I haven't seen anybody provide a solid argument for why we should, or any Kirby game for that matter, especially when we say that the Classic Modes of Smash Bros. are not canon.
I get that...
Like Saturn does, for example.
I'm asking because planet Pop Star from Kirby has a moon like this, and it's confirmed by WoG to be giant, so if their moon can have a large estimated size, the size of Pop Star may be even bigger, which would upgrade Kirby's fodder.
As some already know, Kirby fodder such as Waddle Dee and Knuckle Joe scale from this 2.514 Yottatons feat which seemingly used to be 5-A. However, present 5-A baseline is 2.7 Yottatons. Knuckle Joe is a fighter, so it's likely that other fodder have lower striking strength, so shouldn't...
THIS. IS. HAPPENING.
Thanos vs Breathes deeply Waddle Dee, Waddle Doo, Blade Knight, Sword Knight, Bio Spark, Knuckle Joe and Gim.
Speed equaliaed to Thanos' level. All characters are 5-A. All characters have two years of prep time. Empethetic manipulation won't work on Thanos because reasons...
Only for the low-tiers tho.
Explanatio
Currently, all the beings in this verse that are either to weak or not strong enough to be compared to Kirby are 5-A and FTL scaling to Knuckle Joe cracking part of Popstar, which we know is immensely large but has a debatable size.
I'm not so sure how...
5-A Kharn.
Khârn the Betrayer
Knuckle Joe, Plasma Wisp, Waddle Dee, Waddle Doo
All the other helpers]
Kharn cannot heal between matches, but he does get between 15-30 seconds of respite. Speed equalized.
I believe I might've been wrong to scale fodder different. First off, for the monster they scale off of for destroying, that monster is 5-A. They're just scaled off of the calc for destroying diamonds of that size. They can also hurt bosses as helpers or while Kirby possesses them. And Knuckle...
Saiyan Saga, Goku can only use abilities he used from that time and earlier. So no Destructo Disc. Speed is equalized. Given that Knuckle Joe would either blitz badly, or get blitzed badly depending on who he scales to. A battle of chi enhanced martial artists. I love that this is actually...