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tier 1

  1. RALFdoang

    Bring Back Old 2A Above Baseline Standard

    Currently, we use the CH (Continuum Hypothesis) as our Invisible default standard to determine the boundary between 2A and Low 1-C. For a little explanation, CH is an hypothesis which stating that there is no set between the set of Natural number and the set of Real number (no set between...
  2. CrisisCrysis

    Gaunter O'Dimm MASSIVE Profile Revisions.

    I made this sandbox alongwith my friend. Have a look:- https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:prophet%27s_Profit/Sandbox Can we update the profile based on this?
  3. RanaProGamer

    Would this grant a Tier of just Large Size?

    Was reading some stories on Wattpad. There's a structure that is so big that it exists through all the planes of existence and stretches and has no beginning or end. It's so big that it stretches beyond the concept of dimensionality itself. Would this be a Tier 1 feat or just Large Size Type 11?
  4. ShionAH

    How big is this cosmology via R>f?

    Universe A sees games as fiction (every game is a reality) and universe A is viewed as a youtube video on the internet The internet: The games having their own universes:
  5. Milly_Rocking_Bandit

    Kingdom Hearts: Re:Vising the Cosmology

    Hi. This is my first CRT of the year. Let’s start it off with a bang. The Ocean Between In Kingdom Hearts, the “Ocean Between”, is described as: And once more, by Xehanort: Thirdly, in the same report, it’s cited to be what’s defined as an “Other Sky”. Following this vein of logic, also...
  6. Artorimachi_Meteoraft

    Yogiri fights the count

    Count Mordrek the Damned vs Yogiri No knowledge of each other base key yogiri battle takes place in delfino plaza from super Mario sunshine/smash bros stage 1 meter apart count: yogiri: incon: 6
  7. Grand_Saver_Ritsuka

    What tier is this cosmology?

    So this cosmology is infinitely layered, and difference between layers is greater then R/F to the point the higher layer is apophatic to the lower layer. What tier is this cosmology?
  8. JmikaelP

    What tier will be destroy a structure in a 1-A Plane?

    What tier will be destroy a structure in a 1-A Plane? Basically, Character A that live in a 4-D plane destroy a continent with one punch with enough energy to belong to 6-A Tier. Then, Character B that live in a 1-A plane destroy a continent with the same energy that character A. A little...
  9. NatzuX

    SMT vs The Epilogue

    Smt verse (All Characters) vs Shallow Vernal (Web novel) Ban Regen High-Godly & All Transduality & All Nep Baseline & Speed Equal 1-1 Stop at Who?
  10. Since Undertale is now Tier 1...

    Does Low 1-C Player scale to anyone? And why Undertale wiki page wasn't upgraded?
  11. Noneless21

    "What If?" Battleboarding style

    Now, from my understanding, tier low 1-A and above is largely based on set theory (credit to @Jaften) which got me thinking why we use this theory as the foundation of tier low 1-A and above? But then yall wondering, why I post this at F&G? Well now I'm curious... What will happen if we use...
  12. Artorimachi_Meteoraft

    Kamen rider decade (neo version) vs gilgamesh

    Gilgamesh Kamen rider decade (neo) rules both 1-C (Genesis Mythology Mystic Code/Original Power Gilgamesh vs Complete 21 Form decade) they’re both 8-D Kamen rider decade has knowledge of gilgamesh Battle takes place in night city from cyberpunk 2077 starting distance is five meters...
  13. Asha_Xerxes

    Comparing Two Different High 1-A Characters With Different Levels of Power

    I have a few questions about high 1-A characters. There’s two characters in this example, Lord Mareios and Thrastara. Thrastara is the less powerful, lower level High 1-A. Is it possible that in Mareios’s perspective, Thrastara (and all of the others that exist alongside him) could be limited by...
  14. Xearsay

    Is this low 1-A?

    The realms are called the imaginal or conceptual worlds. They sit above a high 1-B hierarchy in the cosmologies ladder, but are also completely external to space and time which compose the hierarchy. With archetypes being nothing but images suspended in mirrors and higher dimensions being a...
  15. Xearsay

    Is this low 1-C?

    Our universe(low 2-C structure) is the dream of beings called the Animal Masters, who created this dream in a space beyond all knowing. This space beyond all knowing is the space of the dream, a universe hidden behind the one our flesh knows. Is this space beyond all knowing low 1-C or low 2-C?
  16. ByArrow

    Mister Mxyzptlk (CW) Tier Upgrade

    Mister Mxyzptlk is in the supergirl 5x13 episode. she considers the supergirl series to be a netflix series and intervenes as she pleases he considered the supergirl series to be like a netflix series and was able to intervene. i think it should rise to at least low 1-c tier for
  17. megami tensei characters apparently need special assistance to do tier 2 stuff

    ?? i heard this from people on discord and i played some of the games (smt iii and iv) and I'm wondering if it's true. if it's not then please explain why
  18. Transcending

    What tier is transcending 1-B the same way Low 1-A transcends High 1-B?

    So basically, if a character or a structure was to surpass a 1-B hierarchy as a whole, what tier would it be?
  19. Haruki_Shizu

    Correct me if I am wrong

    Tier High 1-B: structure with infinite dimensional layer. Tier Low 1-A: infinite layered hierarchy where every layer is made out of High 1-B structure. Tier 1-A: infinite layered hierarchy where every layer is made out of Low 1-A hierarchy. Tier High 1-A: infinite layered hierarchy where every...
  20. Muchacho_mrm

    Tier question

    What if our universe was just a dream of some being. To that being, we're nothing more than fiction. It's probably enough for tier 1 but the problem is that the being is of a lower dimension. So let's say someone 1D created a 2-A structure out of dreams and like the above has r>f over it but...
  21. JmikaelP

    This is a 1-A Structure?

    A quick answers, but this can be consider like a 1-A Structure, maybe a little more powerful that a normal 1-A Structure? "Structure A is composed by three existences. Each existence transcend a High 1-B, seeing like a fictional idea."
  22. JmikaelP

    Using a kind of energy can be enough to belong in a Tier?

    Using a kind of energy can be enough to belong in a Tier? For example: "Character A can use the same energy that the old gods use it to create the all multiverse that contains an infinite universes." Is it enough?
  23. JmikaelP

    In a 1-A Structure, can be there another Structure like a 2-A Structure?

    In a 1-A Structure, can be there another Structure like a 2-A Structure?
  24. JmikaelP

    Irrelevant Speed and 0 Tier Question

    What powers (advantages or disadvantages) have a being that it belong to 1-A Tier? A character can belong to one tier like 1-A with one condition that decrease his power (like restriction), but without that condition it have the power to belong the Tier 0?
  25. Shadowbeast

    Some questions regarding the Tiering System

    Here I have two doubts about the Tier System of the wiki, if someone could answer me and justify/refutate them, i would appreciate it. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System 1-First, the current wiki says that the standard/baseline Outerserval level can be mathematically defined as...
  26. TheGreatJedi13

    example of verses with 5th or 6th dimension

    Is there a verse you guys can share wherein? the physical plane is 3D + Time as temporal + Concept/Abstract/Logic/Law as a form of additional 5th dimension. take it as if the Law exists higher and Time flows or exists from it and the law defines what is it. I want to make some references to...
  27. JmikaelP

    What Tier it will be this feat?

    In other wiki that talks about powers, Tiers, etc, a large group of users was talking about a Feat that is the following: "Character A fight against Character B, that is an avatar of Deity A, who live in another level of existence that belong to the 1-A Tier. Character A have a special ability...
  28. Artorimachi_Meteoraft

    Nanashi vs Aleph (Also Curse you YHVH)

    Since it's very very very hard to make SMT battles with other franchises, i decided to just make a in-universe one. okay so SMT 2 protagonist meets SMT 4/Final Protagonist I have no idea why they are fighting. Must of been some YHVH shenanigans. (CURSE YOU YHVH) Retro 80's dude with blue...
  29. Katsu_Hikaru

    Is Solaris Outerversal

    I have a question is Solaris Outerversal? Got into a discussion with multiple people saying Solaris is Outerversal for Transcending the concept of dimensions but is enough to qualify Solaris for said tier? I have somewhat of an understanding of Outerversal but doesn't it also require a lot of...
  30. Artorimachi_Meteoraft

    Let's end this debate on who is the stronger hadou god (Reinhardt Heydritch vs Mercurius)

    Reinhardt and Mercurius have an argument on who is the stronger one. Both decide that this can only be settled in a fight to the death. Reinhardt Mercurius Rules: Both at their strongest Both are bloodlusted Battle takes place in final destination (SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL) That's the...
  31. Asha_Xerxes

    What other terms can you use for “Beyond-Dimensional Existence?”

    Hi. I would like to know if there are synonyms for beyond-dimensional existence. Such as over-dimensional, transcendent-dimensional, meta-dimensional, super-dimensional, etc. Also, can you have higher level High 1-A plus characters that trivialize other lower level High 1-A plus characters (in...
  32. ThanatosX

    2-A and higher current standards

    I am planning on making a revision for our standards regarding baseline 2-A and higher since I don't agree with the current ones. However, to start making it I need a comprehensive summary of how our standards are right now. So, can someone make a summary in the replies of this post...
  33. Valiant_Abyss

    A 2-A Structure Contained within a 2-A Structure?

    Would a 2-A structure contained within another 2-A structure reach into tier 1, and if so, where in tier 1? For example if I had an infinite multiverse (2-A) that was contained within a timeline in which there are an infinite amount of, what tier would that be?
  34. TrueKingOfHeroes

    A question about smurf hax

    1. if a character has tier 5-B (3D being) and when his attack potency upgrade to tier 2-A but is still a 3D being, will his entire hax immediately become 4D even though it is not shown to affect the 4D structure or 4D being? 2. same as before but in tier L1-C and above 3. if a 3D character...
  35. Artorimachi_Meteoraft

    They worked Together now they are fighting each other (Kanon vs Shannon)

    I don't know why kanon and shannon fight against each other. they just decided to fight each other. Kanon: 7 Shannon: 2 Incon: Rules: In-Character Both Do not have knowledge of each other okay (they don't) Both High 1-C Win via incap or death (whatever is preferrable to make things fair...
  36. Milly_Rocking_Bandit

    Megami Tensei - The Collective, Expansive CRT

    The day is September 20th, 1996. On that day, the a lone, singular JRPG was released to the public, dubbed the name "Revelations: Persona", released on the Playstation. A successor to the successful (Shin) Megami Tensei series, on that day, that would be the first of many more entries to come...
  37. Few questions about Higher Dimensions

    1. What kind of higher dimensions does this site accept for tier 1(I know it accepts spatial, temporal dimensions, RF and branes)? 2. What kind of dimensions are spatio temporal dimensions? 3. Would someone who has 4D existence look at 3D people as fiction if 4th dimension is that of time? 4...
  38. BluudyManikin777

    The Parent vs Child that Determines the Fate of the Universe! Nia vs Anti-Spiral!

    I thought that this would be narratively better, if she herself killed one of her creators, which would represent the breakthrough of limitations, since her creator used to control her. It's up to what you would think it means, but that's my interpretation Anyways, to the match Nia Teppelin...
  39. Artorimachi_Meteoraft

    Noel Vermillion vs D (Blazblue vs Vampire Hunter D)

    They both have insane haxes and resistances and they both are low 1-C in attack power. Noel: 1 D: Incon: 2 Rules Both Low 1-C (make them both the strongest) speed equalized No knowledge of each other. in-character for both battle takes place at an Anime Convention (because why the...
  40. Tier 1 Question

    Let's say character X is 1-A. Has multiple statemants of being above any extanstion of hierarchy and is stated to be inaccessible to anyone. Let's say character Y is tier 1-C but he can reach character X. Would this be the strenght of the character Y or anti-feat to character X?
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