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  1. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Max Heart

    So, are we gonna discuss abt this [1]
  2. Spamac

    Jubileus and Aesir upgrade?

    Sorry for resurrecting the thread, but I just have these questions that I have no where else to ask. Is Aesir's ability to shape events and how they unfold an ability of fate manipulation ? If he can create the fates of not just living beings but natural surroundings and phenomenon, does that...
  3. Spamac

    Zeraora versus Cure Peace

    I vote for Cure Peace.
  4. Spamac

    Zeraora versus Cure Peace

    Well, my bad then. Anyways, a limitless stamina sounds like no limit fallacy to me, and Amour hasn't been shown to be put up against consecutive challenges in the level of what Peace and her team have been through. Still, this discussion is for another time and another topic so allow me to...
  5. Spamac

    Zeraora versus Cure Peace

    You brought up Cure Amour's durability, which is scaled to Miden's Diamond Eternal.
  6. Spamac

    Zeraora versus Cure Peace

    Was meant to write "one of the Cure teams" out there, but the fact that Smile Cures fought 3 to 4 battles consecutively, each one harder than the one before is undeniable. I don't think Miden's Diamond Eternal can be scaled to the real Diamond Eternal, but that belongs to another topic so.
  7. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Max Heart

    Added a feat for city block tier YPC5 in my post above.
  8. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Max Heart

    @Dino Ranger Black: So here's the feats I could find for the upgrade of YPC5 team: 1. From 11:50 onward: Despairaih can't control the despair power anymore, the nightmare dimension is collapsing as a result. She specifically says that the Cures must seal her along with the nightmare dimension...
  9. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Max Heart

    I don't remember any implication abt clouds covering the Earth's surface after Desperaiah's wish was granted. I probably forgot that part. Anw, she did indeed hurry the Cures to seal her up due to her became unable to control the despair power, or else she would destroy the whole world...
  10. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Max Heart

    I think the Kowaiina is likely stronger than building level, since in ep 46 of YPC5, Bloody summoned a Kowaiina based on at least the size of a city block. The power of the mask warped the form of the whole area into Kowaiina, and later the Cures got no trouble defeating it so I think at least...
  11. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Max Heart

    @Scarletmoon: Sorry, I think the way I explained thing confused you there. The moon feat is scaled from the Super YPC5 defeating the movie villain-Shadow, who not only was able to copy the power of the Cures but also added his/her own power to create the more powerful Dark Cures, and was likely...
  12. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Max Heart

    https://youtu.be/BxzGus9GfCs Here's the scene I talk about. I'm just curious since other franchise are allowed to use creation feats for tier measuring on this wiki. Verses like Sailor Moon was acknowledged to have those kind of feats in the early series, so I'm just wondering if it could be...
  13. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Max Heart

    Can creating a sub-dimension containing a moon be applicable to one's power level ? I sudden remember that in the movie of YPC5, the Cures go up against their dark counterparts, each in their own sub-dimension created by the movie villain. The sub-spaces where Dream vs Dark Dream and Aqua vs...
  14. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Max Heart

    @SSK: there's no shot showing the Garden of Light being covered in the enemy's body.
  15. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread: Max Heart

    I don't think so. As in the context of DX1, the revived MoTW can only be killed by the Cures of their respective series (Zakenna by the FWPC, Hoshiina and Kowaiina by the 5GG, etc.). Miden is an interesting case, as he was able to tank attacks from every Cures and the only way defeating him was...
  16. Spamac

    Zeraora versus Cure Peace

    Electricity doesn't heal Peace's wounds. Reawakening to the UCD did it.
  17. Spamac

    Zeraora versus Cure Peace

    Or it could be argued that the aura surrounding Peace protected her from electric shock ? https://youtu.be/1MdHVrmDFHI At 0:17, BE Peace attacked base Peace yet it's shown in 2:21 that after reawakening her Ultra Cure Decor, Peace came out unscratched and healed from her wounds. The event after...
  18. Spamac

    Zeraora versus Cure Peace

    Point is Peace was shown unflinched when hit by BE Peace's electricity. The animation clearly shows the purple current gradually turning yellow before Peace firing back at BE Peace. I guess it can be argued that Peace did override BE Peace's attack with her Peace Hurricane, although I really...
  19. Spamac

    Zeraora versus Cure Peace

    https://youtu.be/ZJMenFMWBoA At 0:42, Bad End Peace fires a large pillar of electricty at Peace and main girl is completely unflinched by it. The purple eletricity then turns into yellow, which signifies that Peace has made it her own and then fires the whole pillar back at Bad End Peace...
  20. Spamac

    Zeraora versus Cure Peace

    Gonna try playing the devil's advocate here. I'll vote for Cure Peace. 1. The Cures always start off the fight with close hands to hands combat. Thus, that will force Zeraora to resort to CC as well. Zeraora can be one-shotted at that time due to Peace's AP and Zeraora's lower defense. Plus...
  21. Spamac

    Cure Whip versus Touma Kamijou

    The most likely scenario is that Whip's gonna attack Touma with Kirakirarun beam. It gets nullified, Whip will try firing a stronger version, probably Whip Decoration. It then will also gets nullified. She'll have to rethink why her attack didn't work and proceed to keep her distance from Touma...
  22. Spamac

    Cure Whip versus Touma Kamijou

    Whip has never weaponized her Kirakirarun in the form of blade, so the scenario of her cutting of Touma's right arm is out of character. She'll be more likely to render him unconscious via throwing him real hard with her superior strength, supposed she could grab him in the first place.
  23. Spamac

    Cure Whip versus Touma Kamijou

    Whip over relying on long range attack is not a good counter to Touma's right hand. I mean, depends on which body part of Touma that Whip grabs with her batter and whether she can catch him off guard using her physical strength advantage, I can see this is more of a stalemate.
  24. Spamac

    Cure Whip versus Touma Kamijou

    This should be a stalemate. Whip has no way of hurting Touma while Touma has no way of closing the distance between them.
  25. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread

    @Dino Ranger Black [spoiler alert] At the climax of the movie, the main villain grew so large, his body cover galaxies and other planets in darkness. One of the places got covered by his physical form was the Max Heart's world. Since Hugtto already established that the original Cures came from...
  26. Spamac

    Pretty Cure/Precure Discussion Thread

    Just came back seeing the spring movie, starring Star team, Hugtto and KiraAla. While the film was mediocre at best, it has a huge feat that put the entire verse at multi-universe.
  27. Spamac

    About Aesir's tier

    So I just have a question regarding Aesir's tier. We all know that with the Eyes of the World, he can alter the Trinity of Realities in whichever way he likes, right ? Paradiso is acknowledged to be thousands of time larger than the realm of chaos, while the realm of chaos itself is confirmed to...
  28. Spamac

    Is this tier 3-A or something else ?

    I know, but since Aesir has the capacity to create a whole dimension with actual time flow in it, does it contribute anything to his tier ? I was just wondering abt that.
  29. Spamac

    Is this tier 3-A or something else ?

    Thank you for answering. I'm just having trouble understanding Aesir's tier in the Bayo series. So the character is acknowledged to have the power to recreate the 3 Realities of said verse due to his possession of the Eyes of the World, hence his 3-A tier. It's just that in the final battle, he...
  30. Spamac

    Is this tier 3-A or something else ?

    So if a character creates a whole new universe sized dimension, with actual flow of time included, where should they be put in the tier ladder ? Is it 3-A, high 3-A or low 2-C ?
  31. Spamac

    Princess Precure Content revision

    We don't actually know the size of Hope Kingdom. The castle itself is already small island level, so maybe in base form Dyspear should be at least country level ? I mean she was born from the despair of Hope Kingdom from generation to generation. When she came to Earth, she managed to feed on...
  32. Spamac

    Possible Jubileus's upgrade?

    Hm...and the fact that each reality is as large as the universe wouldn't help ?
  33. Spamac

    Possible Jubileus's upgrade?

    Hm...I'm not very sure what would be qualified as spatial-temporal manipulation in that sense. Aesir managed to create and drag both Bayo and Balder into an endless chaotic space. Balder got shot out of that space later in the battle and he couldn't come back. Aesir also slowed Bayo down with...
  34. Spamac

    Possible Jubileus's upgrade?

    One thing though, since the Universe of Bayo is made up from 3 realities/dimensions that are equal in size, as in as huge as our universe, does that make Aesir a low multiversal being ? And Jubileus with the Right Eye can hypothetically destroy at least one Reality in the Trinity. I really want...
  35. Spamac

    Possible Jubileus's upgrade?

    I mean it's written in the lore and a widely accepted fact in the world of Bayo that both Eyes being used together by a ruler of each realm would mean the end of realities of the verse itself. Besides, it makes sense for Aesir to actually want to rule the human universe instead of solely the...
  36. Spamac

    Possible Jubileus's upgrade?

    So I just had a quick ask with Kamiya. Basically I asked him actual info about the size of the human realm, whether it's only limited to the Earth or it also includes the outside universe. He said it's the same size with the universe. [1] Later, I tried to ask him about the size of Paradiso...
    • Spamac
    • Thread
    • bayonetta bayonetta (character) bayonetta (verse) jubileus
    • Replies: 151
    • Forum: Content Revision
  37. Spamac

    Aesir vs Mundus(DMC)

    Ok so I found the thread but it's never been clearly stated the nature of the dimension that Mundus and Dante fought. I don't really believe that Mundus just created the whole constellations around them, but this guy has been trying to say that it is and then claming Mundus was multiversal...
  38. Spamac

    Aesir vs Mundus(DMC)

    What about the multiversal feat that Mundus has always been said to have ? I'm really not an expert in DMC so some sources would be great help.
  39. Spamac

    Aesir vs Mundus(DMC)

    Ok, so there's this person who's been trying to dispute that Aesir is nowhere near Mundus's power level and said that Mundus was multiversal level since he merged the human world with the demon world. I know Jubileus is often compared with Mundus, but we didn't really get to see the true power...
    • Spamac
    • Thread
    • bayonetta (verse) devil may cry loptr (aesir) mundus (devil may cry)
    • Replies: 6
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  40. Spamac

    Dante vs Bayonetta (6-C Forms.)

    ok, so, I just watched the clip featuring Quicksilver. On the DMC Wiki, bless us because we don't have our hands on any other sources, the Quicksilver Style is said to give Dante lighting speed or in another one, allow Dante to move freely in the battle field. In gameplay, because we're only see...
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