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  1. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    I think you're being too hard on the Bifrost feat, not everything can be exact numbers, if you look and see a city of Frost Giants being destroyed in under a second by the beams, then that should be enough to say that, yes, in around a second, there's city-destroying power there. Not everything...
  2. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    Not 100% correct, but that's not the excuse to throw physics out the window at the first sign that it disagrees with you.
  3. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    Perhaps, but there's no reason that should subtract from its durability.
  4. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    Firstly that's not at all what I said. I said-as revised by Kkapoios-that the ability for the molecular bonds to remain perfectly stable when that energy is flowing through it is evidence to its durability and the strength of its bonds. And if a missile had the explosion going off inside it...
  5. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    Well with my consistently shown Oracle powers I predict they will vote nay.
  6. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    I'm ok with this conclusion.
  7. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    We got on the topic of the Bifrost as I was trying to make a point there are feats that Thor has that are at least near the level of 7-C, and that the Sokovia feat, under the circumstances, isn't that serious of an outlier.
  8. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    So, what is the conclusion here?
  9. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    Thank you Gemmysaur Right in that gif you can see that miles out from the epicenter where the blast hits, merely a second or so later, buildings are collapsing and the entire city we see is being destroyed. Then again as seems to be with Thor movies it might just be perspective.
  10. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    1. I can't just magic up a video, Loki activated the Bifrost and blasted the Jotunheim with the intension of ripping it apart, then locked it into place. It did happen and if you want I'll go through the movie and find you the timestamp, and I'll keep looking for a video online, but not much...
  11. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    @antvasima This is true, but you can't really apply that logic to everything, especially when thus far, powerful objects in the MCU haven't been shown to be that incredibly weak. I highly doubt it was a shock and awe effect.
  12. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    @Kkapoios You don't want to start a physics argument with me, trust me. 1. When Loki tried to destroy Jotunheim, we see the Bifrost shoot down and start ripping the planet apart. Unfortunately there's nothing on YouTube, I have the DVD right in front of me, but I can't exactly point you to it...
  13. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    No, not enveloping, we see it destroying the area of a city in around a second or so. And cracking it is incredibly difficult on its own. He also didn't two-hand Mjolnir in that scenario, nor did he try to amp his blow with lightning. No, I got the point, my point is the more energy something...
  14. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    @Kkapoios I actually fully explained, the blast we see when it strikes Jotumheim is enveloping an area much larger the MCB level, upwards towards city level, in under a second. Therefore, the energy the bridge must be channeling, and it's ability to handle that energy need to be in the same...
  15. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    @Gemmysaur That's what it looks like, but based on the destruction its causing on Jotunheim it is, from my perspective, likely to be higher
  16. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    If 7-B is too high for the Sokovia feat, I would like to offer the compromise of 7-C, or Town Level, since we know-via Friday's Statements-that without the heat seal, Thor would've only cracked Sokovia, meaning that with just his force alone with a single strike he wouldn't have been able to...
  17. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    @Kkapoios I did explicitly point out why the destruction of the bridge is actually quite potent in itself, if the Bifrost was able to channel city-destroying energy without fail, even when it was heavily cracked, and the energy it was channeling was enough to cause such a massive explosion, and...
  18. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    The thing is, this blow shouldn't impact any kind of power-scaling because Thor has never used it before or since. Therefore, it's just its own thing.
  19. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    Simple Solution, because it's fiction. You can point out so many situations where characters could have clearly done something better like when Quicksilver could've grabbed Hawkeye and that child and moved them out of the way.
  20. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    @Natse Yeah Thor showing a vast difference in power like that is another good point. And personally I can agree with the magazine. A character's perception speed and ability to turn while moving is very valid and while it should not be a definitive proof of their combat speed, it should be...
  21. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    @Gemmysaur I was just pointing out that saying "Well I like X character" does not suddenly mean you're devoid of prejudice against them, I'm not trying to poke at anything. @Natse This is also something to consider, the fact that this is a movie and there will be inconsistencies is very...
  22. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    There is a stark(Ha) difference between putting thought into something, and ripping apart any feat the character has that could indicate him being powerful. The latter is what seems to happen a lot in the MCU and the Comics. Saying "Thor is one of my favorite super heroes" is just that, saying...
  23. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    That's probably because there's quite a few people I'm aware of that try to dump on Thor. He's one of those characters that gets a lot of hate and gets defamed a lot for it. I agree on the city-level aspect as well, in the comics Thor is easily one of, if not the, most powerful hero, and that...
  24. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    @Gemmysaur I think we've reached a valid conclusion here, most of what we see is interpretive at best, although I am new to this site, so would that be enough to get the feat to be labeled as valid for a striking feat, or would it instead be labeled as interpretive? Really? Hm, I hadn't...
  25. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    @Gemmysaur I just don't see any evidence for Thor storing lightning, it was never shown he can store lightning in or around his hammer, so I'm just doubtful on whether or not we should assume that's what's being done. And I always assumed that blue glow on his hammer were magic runes that...
  26. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    I'll address the first and second at once, I believe that may just be a difference of perspective. I personally see it as Thor maintaining his position until called upon, there was no real reason to believe that Thor was charging up, only that he had to stay in that position with that exact...
  27. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    That doesn't mean it's impossible, just that you need some good evidence. Especially since this type of attack has never been replicated before or since, so one can easily speculate the power difference scenario-wise. @Gemmysaur I don't deny that the feat was charged by lightning, but Thor was...
  28. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    My mistake, it said chain reaction, but it has the relative same reasoning. A chain reaction can mean anything, if I knock over a set of dominos, that's a chain reaction. However if lightning hit a rod, then jumps from the rod and hits another rod, another chain reaction. Something being a...
  29. Caesar_Wolfman

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Thor's Sokovia Feat

    When looking over the page for Thor on VS Battles, I noticed that the Sokovia feat was rejected because it was 1. Caused by 'an atomic reaction' 2. An outlier Firstly, an atomic reaction does not automatically mean that the Vibranium detonated, as we see the entire slab of Vibranium is...
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