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Marvel is... a Weird case. From an OOU explanation, The Writers will essentially let their characters do whatever they want, even if it may or may not make much sense within the context of their story, just for the sole purpose of making a story, as it's infamous for the 'Story takes precedence...
"While Dooku was drawing on the entirety of the Dark Side's energies, to the point he was described as being "the axis of the universe""
If he was weaponizing the entirety of the Dark Side wouldn't this be way higher than 4-B ?
It depends on how the smurf hax is explained. If it is just through their own power, then it'd be an anti-feat [I.E: Toons from Looney Tunes, though I believe you can make a case of this not being the case as it's consistently regarded that Toons were made with embodying the concept that...
Honestly we should be good. Ultima already said on site that DeMatteis' interpretation of God is 0, which is literally what DeMatteis stated The Divine Creator is, as well as every other interpretation of God/Creator throughout his stories. That aspect was the only real area of potential...
Bump. Okay so since Persona and SMT are part of the same thing, Imma ask something I've been wondering since a good minute:
Were Maki and Natsuya completely forgotten during the Persona upgrade, or did they simply not scale to the 1-A stuffs ?
I'm fine with him not getting a key, it's just intriguing that DeMatteis just decides to make so many people high-tiered in his stories. It's like a high tiered bargain sale.
Here's something. In the old Silver Surfer DeMatteis comics, it refers to the Quantum Field, a Realm canonically lower than the Macroverse because Silver Surfer was fully aware of it yet called the Macroverse , Galactus, and several other beings completely beyond his comprehension. It was stated...
Hello everyone. I'm talking about a scenario here that may or may not be based off of something I found. So, let us assume that A is a fictional character, and B is the Real-Life Author of the fictional universe where Person A is from, aka not a fictional character.
B states that both of them...
If someone or something ends up a Tier 0 / High 1-A+ Smurf because of this I'll be so happy because we need Tier 0/High 1-A+ Smurfs [Lord knows we already have High 1-A Smurfs... Ahem looking at your Tom Taylor]
Hm. So I guess it just depends on the verse to see if they have their Tier 0 transcend logic or not.
I mean that's definitely a fair assumption to make, and for most traditional depictions of Omnipotence/God you are right, but it just depends on how the Omnipotent being in question is...
I see. That's unfortunate. Are you positive he doesn't just transcend Creation and not the Dream ? I'll need to reread the Iceman / Mighty Thor Annual comics to be doubly sure of that.
Yeah we technically got 4 staff approvals ages ago. We should probably ask Antvasima what to do about this, since it seems very likely that Ultima will be too busy to evaluate this.
I don't think it is. It's clear that the Men of Lineage can significantly affect the Dream itself , which would be a High 1-A+ structure via being a Tier 0's Dream World. They were specifically created with that purpose by The Divine Creator so it wouldn't be an outlier either.
Thank you for the feedback !
Oh. Also. A proposal I've been meaning to do for a long time: Franklin should be a smurf regardless. What I mean by that is that he isn't automatically 1-A/High 1-A. He's like Molecule Man in the sense he's just a regular human who just so happens to be able to tap...
This is insane. Like, even if we assume this is True Eternity and not an avatar, this isn't even referring to The Divine Creator (who is seriously who I would've expected something like this from). This is referring to an entity very much within and is the embodiment of a significant aspect of...
Um. So Universal Eternity says this in JM DeMatteis Comics, during the old Defenders comics:
"There came a point when I was torn by this cosmic solitude that beggars description, when I desperately craved the experience of Duality, Otherness"
This seems to imply that Eternity himself is not just...
Whelp. This was a long time coming. The following is a list of feats I gathered about Franklin. I figured these would be more than enough for an upgrade: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:PrincessofGods/FRUpgrade
He was shown overpowering an amped Mephisto, the very same Mephisto who was...
Agreed. Even characters like Pre-Shaman Nate Grey have feats of significantly affecting the Astral Plane, and Nate Grey blatantly caps at Celestial Level (Considering what Asheema said in Heroes Reborn: The Return, which essentially capped every mortal prior to Franklin that showed up as lesser...
So, question, I was looking into essentially what a Tier 0 is. One of the implications of being a Tier 0 is that it transcends/is beyond all opposites/distinctions, as well as any/all frameworks that create distinctions/opposites. But, to my understanding, wouldn't such a being inherently not be...