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  1. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    What do you think should be done about this?
  2. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Right now I'm only proposing that characters with direct Yggdrasil feats of their own (i.e. Thor, Storm, and Hercules. Maybe Enchantress) scale to 1-A
  3. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Basically, when Atlas lifts the Heavens, he is linked to the Axis Mundi, which is the Greek incarnation of Yggdrasil. Yggdrasil is just the Norse form of a structure that takes a different form for all beliefs. So I think that when Hercules takes Atlas' burden of lifting the Heavens, it would...
  4. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    What topics are there to be discussed? Basically, my current proposals are: Make Yggdrasil scale to 1-A for encompassing all realities, which is supported by some other statements for Skyfather tiers Make Skyfathers scale to this from Odin and Atlas, all characters currently recognized as...
  5. ObberGobb

    Verse-Wide Katekyo Hitman Reborn Downgrades

    Bump
  6. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Why? I'm not proposing changing any of the current standards on how we deal with Herald scaling.
  7. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

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  8. ObberGobb

    Verse-Wide Katekyo Hitman Reborn Downgrades

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  9. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Bump
  10. ObberGobb

    Verse-Wide Katekyo Hitman Reborn Downgrades

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  11. ObberGobb

    BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

    How will we handle characters potentially scaling to 4-A? Like every member of the Gotei 13 is pretty explicitly below unsealed Senjumaru and True Shikai Ichigo, so it seems weird for Renji of all people to potentially scale to that level via this Uryu fight.
  12. ObberGobb

    [Marvel Comics] Some Upgrades and stuff...

    Based on what's shown here, I'd agree with 3-C for Universal Weapon
  13. ObberGobb

    Verse-Wide Katekyo Hitman Reborn Downgrades

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  14. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    What wording would you prefer for 1-A? I just really don't think "at peak" should be used for High 3-A, but I agree that it presents a problem for characters who theoretically scale to peak Thor. Like personally I wouldn't have a problem with Thanos scaling to Skyfather level anyway but I won't...
  15. ObberGobb

    Soul Eater Verse CRT

    Yeah honestly I have no clue why they wouldn't scale, they pretty clearly do. Personally I vote for restoring their scaling to Asura.
  16. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Someone said that they were planning a thread focusing on 3-C stuff, so I'll just drop that. They suggested "3-C to High 3-A normally"
  17. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Not really to my knowledge, but he does say that he can make his corporeal form transcend dimensions
  18. ObberGobb

    The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

    I would appreciate any thoughts on this thread if you haven't already: https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-big-yggdrasil-downgrade-skyfather-upgrades-and-thor-revisions.171959/
  19. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Bump
  20. ObberGobb

    Soul Eater Verse CRT

    They don't mention anything about that in that thread
  21. ObberGobb

    Soul Eater Verse CRT

    Does anyone know why Maka, Black Star, and Death the Kid don't scale to Kishin Asura anymore?
  22. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Celestials and Abstracts would just upscale from them. I think that there are enough feats and statements of affecting the Multiverse from characters solidly below Eternity that there has to be some way to make that scaling work. What part do you disagree with? Yggdrasil and Skyfathers being...
  23. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    So what barriers are there for 1-A scaling for Skyfather-tiers? Does anyone disagree? Do I need more input?
  24. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Might've found another feat for scaling to Yggdrasil. We currently accept Hercules lifting the heavens as a High 3-A feat, but I think it would actually be whatever tier Yggdrasil is. The heavens that Atlas and Hercules lift is the Axis Mundi, which are stated to just be the Greek form of Yggdrasil.
  25. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    I think High 1-B, likely 1-A would be a fine compromise, but if possible I'd like to avoid that. Partially because I really do think 1-A is solid enough to warrant a flat rating, but also because having too many tiers in one key is really ugly. Like if my changes go through, that would leave...
  26. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Do you think they are good supporting feats for the above three? I just figured that to mean with prep or something. But if you think that Phoenix shouldn't be used for 1-A in the fist place then that is fine.
  27. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Could you link some of those feats if you have them?
  28. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Yggdrasil is connected to every timeline across the Multiverse When the Enchantress poisoned Yggdrasil, Thor said it threatened all realities Mephisto and Hela fighting would have caused Omniversal Armageddon Guidebook says Odin and others can destroy and recreate the Multiverse Odin's fight...
  29. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    So I guess its High 1-B if it just scales to Earth-616 then? What about scaling to all realities in the Multiverse? I know @ProfectusInfinity disagrees with this idea, but I feel like its fairly consistent that characters on this tier can do that.
  30. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Since we know that Yggdrasil exists across all planes of reality, and is "everything," can we confidently assume it encompasses the Astral Plane?
  31. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    I think it should scale to all realities though, even though some people have disagreed, so I'd like to hear thoughts from others on that front
  32. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    What does 616 scale to without looking into Eternity, after your CRT was just passed? We know that Yggdrasil scales at least to every realm, so if there is a 1-A realm, shouldn't it scale to 1-A even if it doesn't scale to Uni Eternity M-Bodies?
  33. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    bump
  34. ObberGobb

    Verse-Wide Katekyo Hitman Reborn Downgrades

    Bump
  35. ObberGobb

    Calculation Evaluations (New forum)

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  36. ObberGobb

    Calculation Requests Thread (New forum)

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  37. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    Thor does say that his divinity transcends dimensions, and that his corporeal form can too. I don't know if that affects 1-A stuff though.
  38. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    I argued that it scaled to all realities, but I also don't think it should scale to infinite Uni Eternities. I don't think it should scale above Uni Eternity at all. Like Thor and Odin can affect it, but are solidly below Uni Eternity. I don't think it's consistent for Yggdrasil to scale above...
  39. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    So, is everyone in agreement on it scaling to 1-A from Earth-616 reality? Personally I still think it scales to the Multiverse as a whole, but I'm happy to drop that since from what people have said, that doesn't work.
  40. ObberGobb

    Marvel: Big Yggdrasil Downgrade, Skyfather Upgrades, and Thor Revisions

    I also made this sandbox listing every character who would be upgraded based on this (the list is of every character that I think scales from Odin, or from a character who scales from Odin). I also added potential justification changes for the profiles of Thor and Odin based on my proposal in...
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