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  1. The_Alpha

    Possible BlazBlue Upgrades

    Supposedly we are going to do a revision on Blazblue characters already, so this is good to take into account. I'd say the only people this could possibly even scale to tho are top tiers, because Even Izanami says that she would have trouble matching the power output of Requiem, which can...
  2. The_Alpha

    Hades Izanami vs Goetia

    Could also be because she's not an observer and Izayoi is an anti-observer armament, which was capable of negating Takemagahara's hax too. Either way, it's very difficult if not impossible to put her down without some advanced form of hax. Existence erasure might not even work since she does...
  3. The_Alpha

    Noel Vermillion vs Tamamo no Mae

    Noel also has Eye of the Azure which means she must observe herself in order to maintain her existence. Unless that's banned or somehow contained to her other key, I don't know, it confuses me. Anyway, it should work up to existence erasing levels of attacks.
  4. The_Alpha

    Hades Izanami vs Goetia

    Can he even kill her? Izanami had immortaility similar to that of observers (although she does not use observation to accomplish this iirc) and she was the drive of Amaterasu. That's some pretty strong ass immortality, which is why they only beat her by fusing her with Noel.
  5. The_Alpha

    MUI Goku New Powers?

    I'm using hypothetical speeds of 2m/s against a timeframe in the scene, not neccessarily how fast Jiren reacted, in order to get a factor. It's just that the timeframe for Jiren stopping his momentum and Goku beating the absolute shit out of him are almost identical. So unless it uses cinematic...
  6. The_Alpha

    MUI Goku New Powers?

    May as well. Though I'll give you a bit of trivia. Using hypothetical speeds like Jiren going 2m/s in that scene, the time Jiren takes to stop himself from moving takes about as much time as it takes for Goku to strike Jiren 75~ times. He took a fraction of a second to stop himself and Goku...
  7. The_Alpha

    MUI Goku New Powers?

    Then you could always do relative scaling just to get a more precise idea about how much faster he is, not how fast he's going. It'd be percentages and factors, not m/s or such.
  8. The_Alpha

    MUI Goku New Powers?

    I'm pretty sure you could calc Goku's blitz if you had even a tiny reaction feat for Jiren.
  9. The_Alpha

    MUI Goku New Powers?

    Do we have any numbers for Jiren's reaction time?
  10. The_Alpha

    MUI Goku New Powers?

    I say he should get a little boost in reaction/combat speed at least, due to the feat I outlined above. I'm not experienced enough to calculate that kind of stuff, though.
  11. The_Alpha

    MUI Goku New Powers?

    I see, I see.
  12. The_Alpha

    MUI Goku New Powers?

    Anyway, regarding the video, I counted the frames. It's 75 attacks, based on the amount of blows it seems like he's using in each frame (which varies from 1 to 4). Jiren could barely react and could only cry out in pain. If it were to be quantified he'd be at least a couple times faster than a...
  13. The_Alpha

    MUI Goku New Powers?

    If you wanna start a debate about Vegito's (and possibly Zamasu's) power, you could always make a thread instead of derailing one concerning MUI Goku.
  14. The_Alpha

    MUI Goku New Powers?

    MUI Goku did more than just dodge Jiren, he did this. https://youtu.be/td5DKDqtzX0?t=1m43s Even without cutting it by frames, that's at least like 15 attacks (probably closer to 50 or so, there's 4 stripes per frame) that Jiren couldn't even vaguely react to and MUI looked perfectly still...
  15. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    I've done nothing but stick to the feats I remember and the things on their pages. I'm not angry or anything, I deliver information so people can be convinced to support my position. That said, if you wanna close it, go ahead. But I expect you to actually support your position.
  16. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    I'm still of the mind that it's either victory or inconclusive for Susano'o because of the things I've already outlined. I also don't think Yukari has the right feats for her abilities to tangle with his strongest hax. I'm open to reasoning if feats were actually provided, which would ascertain...
  17. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    False, due to having absorbed Noel Vermillion he will always exist, Noel Vermillion makes use of an ability called Eye of the Azure, which uses observation, which requires willing yourself into existence constantly. Observation can be maintained during and after an existence erasing attack, I'd...
  18. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    For Susano'o it's not really reliant on far stronger beings (Noel can't do shit against him with her hax by the way) as the ability is internalized, since he had fused with Noel, which is the instance of Susano'o that exists on Terumi's page, the one that absorbed Noel. He has the Eye of the...
  19. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    Sorry if I'm repeating myself. I just addressed that point, 2D objects in Touhou can hit people and things as demonstrated by Yukari's only 'feat' (which is a vague feat in and of itself) of using this technique. Either the 2D object that travels along the border of the screen can still hit...
  20. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    That's a strawman. You can kill him without resorting to the exact same tools they had in Central Fiction, it's just that Yukari doesn't have any similar abilities and the ability he's using has power on a low 2-C scale. Unless her hax gets better feats, I can't accept it working, that'd be a no...
  21. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    That kind of reasoning sure convinces me.
  22. The_Alpha

    Susano'o Terumi vs Tiamat

    So either inconclusive/stalemate or win via Susano'o Unit abilities.
  23. The_Alpha

    Susano'o Terumi vs Tiamat

    Has Tiamat ever taken an attack that does not come from humanity and that erases her existence from all points in the timeline? If she can't take that, then she won't survive.
  24. The_Alpha

    Susano'o Terumi vs Tiamat

    I failed to mention that the second instance of the time killer (the Susano'o Unit's ability to cut (the) time (you possess) without paradox) didn't work because Izanami (someone who embodies death) specifically didn't possess time. This effect doesn't necessarily apply to deathless beings, she...
  25. The_Alpha

    Susano'o Terumi vs Tiamat

    Susano'o has the ability to "always exist" listed on his page, this is an ability of Observation in Blazblue, which forces something into existence. He accomplishes this by having absorbed Noel Vermillion into himself, thus having gained the Eye of the Azure. This observation brings his entire...
  26. The_Alpha

    Susano'o Terumi vs Tiamat

    Does she have any way of putting him down when he will always exist? He still has the ability to cut through time and all the nasty things it can do, if there's nothing to keep him down, it's just a battle of attrition until he can land that kind of attack.
  27. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    It's more like you need to be at a certain level via hax. Which is technically what he is, or what the hax is, as it says on Noel Vermillion's page. There are a few characters that would qualify as this (although many of them don't have "[X Level] via hax" to their tier) on the wiki, Susano'o...
  28. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    I'm pretty tough skinned so I'm not very shaken. I hope you have a good day.
  29. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    Boundaries being the very core of things in touhou do nary matter, we are talking about Yukari's boundary manipulation. Her power as a character. She hasn't been confirmed to affect things on a universal scale like either of the feats I'm comparing her to. Reseting the world back 100 years...
  30. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    That's because observation and phenomenon intervention like Eye of the Azure is some of the strongest in Blazblue, it operates on a scale that BM has never operated on by factor of Amaterasu and Takamagahara's feats where they act on entire worlds and timelines directly and not by mere action...
  31. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    It's not a very specific way only possible in the series he is from, it's just that you have to nullify his survivability, which just happens to be a form of very strong reality warping operating on low 2-C levels considering who he fused with. Blazblue also just happens to have an ability that...
  32. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    There's no instance in the story (where he appeared by the climax of the story) of Takehaya Susano'o using the time killer technique, but we know the ability to slay someones time is apart of the Unit's ability and Hakumen has used it. He can use the unit effortlessly as it is his original body...
  33. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    I reasoned that he does and should, people familiar with the series agree with me too. The ability to cut time is not an ability of the Power of Order, neither is it an ability of Nox Nyctores Ookami (Hakumen's sword). It's an ability of the Susano'o Unit, the time killer specifically is a...
  34. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    Susano'o has "can cut through time through the susano'o unit" on his page, so he definitely has it. More experience than Hakumen has with it too, so more than likely the technique to pull that particularly attack too.
  35. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    It wouldn't matter because of his ability to always exist and he has an instant kill button by the ability to cut time, I've already explained this. Only thing it does is make him more capable of swapping hands, which he doesn't really need to do.
  36. The_Alpha

    Possible BlazBlue Profile Additions

    Indeed. The only thing that could arguably kill Izanami would be an immortal breaker anti-observer armanent like Sealed Weapon Izayoi, but I'm not even sure about that.
  37. The_Alpha

    Yuuki Terumi (Blazblue) vs. Garland (Final Fantasy)

    With all that a glance at Garland's page can give me, he can't put Susano'o down as he will always exist through EotA. Without knowing the specific feats (calc numbers, etc), Susano'o is more powerful than someone who'd "have trouble matching up to the energy required to atomize everything...
  38. The_Alpha

    Possible BlazBlue Profile Additions

    While not relevant to this specific addition, I would ask that we clarify that Susano'o should be capable of erasing somebody's time, just like Hakumen can. It's only noted in the way of "Can cut through time through the Susano'o Unit" and that makes it unclear. This has come up a few times in...
  39. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    Sometime, I'm not a regular on this wiki.
  40. The_Alpha

    Yukari Yakumo vs Terumi (Susano'o)

    I don't actually care about dragging it on, I'm putting my piece of mind out there and responding to what you say. While it may not be on profile, the ability to destroy someone's time is an ability of the Susano'o Unit, thus it should logically carry over to Susano'o. Beerus says this too...
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