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  1. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    What anchoring are you talking about dude, Killua was in mid air when the ant blasted him. It's likely the explosion knocked him back and he kept his footing. You were the one who said being bulletproof required being multi city block level. I'll admit the fleas are clearly super durable, but...
  2. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    That's not what I'm saying, Whiteee here is saying that Nen users creating random stuff means they can hit that hard, which is blatantly not true.
  3. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    In the scan you literally posted of the damage from the blast, you can see there's plenty of damage behind the ant, but Killua is nowhere in sight. There's no way to say how far he was from this. Tfw when rusty steel is multi city block level Also Ikalgo was firing the bullets with compressed...
  4. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    Well that's fine and dandy, but as I pointed out, he's about as ambiguously close in the anime as in the manga. How is tanking machine gun fire building level, and in any case it wouldn't apply to Killua since he gets shot and injured in the clip you posted. Scaling Bonolenov's Jupiter to Killua...
  5. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    I'll admit he's close, but in the scan and in the clip you posted, his distance from the ant is somewhat ambiguous. Killua's best feats besides this are moving large rocks with relative ease, which is nowhere near building busting.
  6. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    I am not fine with the Killua calc because he was not hit with the explosion at point blank range and it's an outlier compared to his other strength and durability feats.
  7. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    Pictured, a pulverized cloud of heavy solid material. There being sizzling doesn't mean all of the cloud is coming from rock being vaporized, the cloud is clearly already formed in scan. The sizzling, I'll grant you, is probably melted rock, but that happens with any ground burst nuclear weapon...
  8. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    The behavior of the "cloud" is not consistent with a gaseous material. First of all, smoke is technically solid matter and yet behaves like cloud, second, all that rock vaporized would behave less like a cloud and more like a plume of lava, as I've stated numerous times.
  9. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    Morel didn't fully surround the tower with smoke, as shown here. I'm not denying Youpi made a big crater, I'm denying he vaporized hundreds of tons of rock without creating a gigantic cloud of boiling lava.
  10. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    No it's not dude, there's dust floating around well before the Zero Hand.
  11. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    What's so confusing about that? Netero created a lot of dust before using Zero Hand and the blast it caused threw it up. Anyhow can we please stop assuming vaporization for all of these explosions.
  12. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    Ah yes, clearly this nuclear bomb crater has no debris left behind, therefore all this rock was vaporized. Personally I thought the "vapor" from Zero Hand was dust thrown up from Netero smashing Meruem through concrete pillars literally hundreds of times.
  13. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    Ah, thank you for pointing it out. Once again, it assumes every square meter of the crater was vaporized, which obviously isn't true. However it looks like I was wrong about it not affecting the surroundings.
  14. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    It looks like this calc is of when he knocked Meruem into the underground chamber, which was done over time and not with a single blow, and shouldn't be applicable for his striking strength.
  15. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    I think even melting is too high, yes there's some stuff melted by the nuke, but it's not a literal sea of lava.
  16. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    Literally all of these calcs assume vaporization of every square meter of rock, despite the fact that the explosion's show no sign of that. That sign mainly being a gigantic cloud of boiling rock setting on fire and melting everything nearby. I also don't see any calc for Netero's Zero Hand here.
  17. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    The idea that Youpi or Poor Man's Rose are nuke level is preposterous. Youpi didn't even destroy the tower Morel was in that was nearby and explicitly affected by the blast. As for the nuke, Netero and Meruem were about 60 kilometers from the Royal Palace, as Pouf said it would take 15 minutes...
  18. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    He doesn't seem to be that much closer to the beetle than the trees in the scan.
  19. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    As I've said before, the Killua feat is not a good one to use for scaling, as surface area would mean he only took a fraction of the explosion, not to mention the trees right next to him aren't even knocked down.
  20. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    Ang scaling is not a good method for calcing distance. We don't know the angle of the "camera" of the panel for lack of a better word, which means any value we use for the angle will massively skew the result.
  21. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    That's because even a glancing blow from Youpi was stronger than a punch from Knuckle, as shown when he repaid all the aura the latter gave him plus interest. Neither Shoot or Knuckle were so much faster than Youpi that they could dodge him forever, so it's no wonder Shoot only lasted a few seconds.
  22. AbeLincoln1865

    Complete Hunter x Hunter Overhaul

    1.496 kilotons but the trees he's standing next to aren't even knocked down. Furthermore explosions large surface area means that even if you're hit by them at point blank range you're not taking anywhere near the full force of them. If Killua was really tanking every ounce of energy this...
  23. AbeLincoln1865

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  24. AbeLincoln1865

    Scion AP change and possible Endbringer buff

    I have no issues with this.
  25. AbeLincoln1865

    Worm Speed Downgrade

    I think that's about it Ant.
  26. AbeLincoln1865

    Worm Speed Downgrade

    With Ant and the other mods approval, the revisions have been made.
  27. AbeLincoln1865

    Worm Speed Downgrade

    Planetary range healing? Also the passage said Chevalier turned to ask Scion a question, so I really doubt he was a long distance away. Casual as in he could nuke them with a gesture, not that he could secretly speed blitz them in a millisecond. I also doubt a normal human could escape...
  28. AbeLincoln1865

    Worm Speed Downgrade

    You omitted the part where Scion is close enough to Chevalier to heal his radiation poisoning. DMUA have you ever repeatedly failed to hit a baseball when called up to bat? It's demoralizing, in addition your whole argument is circular logic. "Scion is Hypersonic because of one calc I did."...
  29. AbeLincoln1865

    Worm Speed Downgrade

    The text says that he was right next to Chevalier. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, I'm assuming the crowd was next to them since this is partially from Chev's perspective. Considering they couldn't see him until he lifted Behemoth, it seems they were unable to make him out until he was...
  30. AbeLincoln1865

    Worm Speed Downgrade

    Okay the problem with using real world jets is that: 1. Unlike Scion they take a while to accelerate to top speed. 2. Are much larger than Scion. 3. In all of these examples are relatively far away from the viewer. I can easily move my hand at "FTE" speeds to myself because of how close it is...
  31. AbeLincoln1865

    Worm Speed Downgrade

    I mean if someone near you started moving so fast they could get to the horizon in 20 seconds, they would disappear from your point of view. This same logic could be applied to your Hypersonic scaling. Reading Worm, Alexandria mostly scales to characters lower on the totem pole in speed. Worm...
  32. AbeLincoln1865

    Worm Speed Downgrade

    I'm not saying he took 20 seconds to turn his head, the passage you used for the calc literally describes him crying and having broken bones and organ damage. It also says he had to force himself to move to get a better look at Scion. This fits the scene better than him doing all that in 1...
  33. AbeLincoln1865

    Worm Speed Downgrade

    Alright let's address this point by point. I never denied that Scion traveled fast. The main problem with the calc is that Scion wouldn't have to reach the horizon in literally in one second for the people near Chevalier to be surprised. Even if it took him 20 seconds to reach the horizon...
  34. AbeLincoln1865

    Worm Speed Downgrade

    Bump.
  35. AbeLincoln1865

    Worm Speed Downgrade

    Recently several Worm characters speed was upgraded from Subsonic to Hypersonic based off this one calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DMUA/Worm:_The_Gold_Calc_Morning#Scion_finally_gives_the_verse_a_semblance_of_speed_featery I already pointed out how the timeframe for the feat...
  36. AbeLincoln1865

    Grey Hulk and Thing Revision

    Ben Grimm has gotten stronger over the years as well, though only explicitly in Fantastic Four #176 and #214.
  37. AbeLincoln1865

    Grey Hulk and Thing Revision

    Doom also says he's only applying a ton per square inch of force, lol. Colossus after he became a Phoenix host literally helped take over the world and gave whales legs with matter manipulation just to see what would happen, whereas when he was the Juggernaut he was acting completely normal.
  38. AbeLincoln1865

    Grey Hulk and Thing Revision

    His face is scrunched up and his arm is flailing around, he's clearly not unharmed, Ben is just acting tough like he usually does. Doom clearly wants Ben to beg for mercy before he kills him, if he was really trying to kill him he would just be blasting him into space where he can't breathe...
  39. AbeLincoln1865

    Grey Hulk and Thing Revision

    That's not a neutral expression dude, Ben is clearly not no-selling the punch. He's literally asking Ben to beg for his life. They're the same character, with Phoenix Five Colossus being mentally unwell as shown in AvX, if Colossus wouldn't kill Spider-Man in that situation, he definitely...
  40. AbeLincoln1865

    Grey Hulk and Thing Revision

    That is not the face of someone who tanked a punch. Doom was pretty explicitly toying with Ben out of sadism. https://i.imgur.com/zX6Lx0W.jpg Colossus in this same storyline refuses to kill even while made mentally unstable by being a host of the Phoenix Force.
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