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Everlasting can maybe return, probably in a new account, depending on how things are talked over with Fandom. It's possible. Assaltwaffle is retired so I don't think he'll come back.
Nobody is saying the ink isn't being pulled / summoned from somewhere. What we are saying it's that it's not being summoned from such an absurd distance in such an absurd timeframe.
We brought arguments for why the calc is illegitimate multiple times and never once has anyone bothered to answer them. Yet again, I repeat:
Please directly address these questions and provide conclusive, definitive answers rather than just responding with the same statement of "It just is".
What happens is that people argue and prove why the calc is illegitimate, which swiftly gets ignored by the Bleach fans who still act like it can be accepted. After that, the process will be repeated with another calc which will be rejected and debunked, but which Bleach fans will ignore and act...
I never see Naruto fans doing it on this wiki, Peter. You can provide examples.
@Zezu
Stop spamming nonsense and dead links please. It's cluttering the thread.
I agree with Kukui, this habit of random Bleach fans frankly, whining about Naruto in threads has to stop. Secondly, this is like the sixth Sub-Rel Bleach thread and they are all the same.
It is baseless the arguments you guys give don't prove anything nor are they well constructed. You just go "It is what we are seeing".
Uh, no it isn't. You are making leaps of logic which will make the feat more impressive and going with it because you want it to be higher.
No it's not provided, Danny. Again:
Also:
Please directly address these questions and provide conclusive, definitive answers rather than just responding with the same statement of "It just is".
I never said it took 5 minutes, but the notion that it took 1 second is ridiculous. Something like 10 - 20 is believable low-end, however.
It is still completely unquantifiable, however, as nothing has proven the distance as being accurate.
Not at all. We have little indication over how much time it took for the black to be pulled and how much of a break there was between the two sentences. Assuming that they happened over a span of one second is ludicrous.
The assumed timeframe is wrong, there's a lot wrong to assume it happened as he spoke the word only, rather than that, more unquantifiable time before and after panels.
There's no appeal to authority, Sigurd, it's just how it works. There are Calculation Group Members because they are the people who know math and are more reliable for calculation analysis.
Also if you know anything about comicbook writing / sequential art storytelling, a number of panels is no...
If you think Relativistic is an outlier for Naruto, here's what you can do:
Make a thread for it.
Don't use what you consider a wrong for one series to justify a wrong for another, remove the wrong from both. This is such a backwards logic.
@Danny The calculation is wrong because there's no evidence for the timeframe nor the distance, both are incredibly high-end assumptions. And even if there was it'd be an outlier.
Naruto has more feats around that level and it's overall less of a jump. I have to wonder what Naruto even has to do with this discussion, as it seems to be the go-to argument for any Bleach thread to complain about Naruto having something that Bleach doesn't.
It is rejected because it is plain...
Already explained how it was an outlier.
It was rejected by actual Calc Group Members.
Yes, and sub-relativistic low-ends from other calcs have been rejected. What makes you think straight up relativistic will be accepted?
This is an outlier. Even Sub-Relativistic isn't accepted, let alone this.
Also the calc was rejected by Calc Group members DontTalkDT and TataHakai, what are you talking about. The only people who supported it were non-calcer Bleach fans.
So yeah, this isn't going forward.