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Only reason 3rd UIS is stronger than SSJB Shinka Vegeta, SSJBKKx20 Goku and GoD Toppo is because Goku mastered the form and made it MUI. UIS is stomped by Limit Breaker Jiren, so, therefore, Base Jiren should be on the same level as UIS or GoD Toppo, maybe higher.
We created the multipliers themselves, but in no way are they invalidated by Miyamoto. Have they even been debunked by an official source? No. Meaning that the multipliers are canon.
Name calling? Really? Can't stay civil?
Like you've never stooped to that level before?
Dude, the 50x multipliers are the only multipliers that actually make sense.
Bro. It is relevant. Otherwise all Beerus needs to do is flick Goku's forehead like he did to SSJ3 Goku, and Goku reverts to base form.
Oh yeah? Well then, why, when Goku was in Super Saiyan God which is 50x weaker than Super Saiyan Blue, able to fight on par with Beerus?
And actual feats are...
Rubs hands together
You can all change your votes to Kefla now after this.
Please note: there are three deciding factors in a fight. Attack Potency, Speed, and Hax. We'll use composites, but let's analyze different outcomes.
Attack Potency
We all know the tier and attack potency/durability of...
Everyone is Low 2-C.
Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku vs. Marvel Comics Thanos with the Cosmic Cube vs. Darkspine Sonic vs. Pre-Crisis Superman vs. Bill Cipher vs. Granzeboma vs. Dream Devourer Lavos vs. Alien X vs. Master Hand vs. Wand-Merged Toffee vs. Orphic Zeus vs. Enrico Pucci with Made in...
Bro, have you seen the Lavos Core? And Lavos oneshots as he is Large Planet level while GK is only Planet Level, + Lavos just needs to transform into either Dream Devourer or Time Devourer and GK is shitstomped.
Speaking of which... Who would win, Dream Devourer or Time Devourer?(both...
Dodging my arguement? Doesn't matter. GK actually doesn't need to because of his reality warping so he could just warp reality to negate AoC's durability or at least make her visible to his eyes.
1. Here's the thing though: how fast is the power null? Cause if it's slow that ain't impressive at all.
2. As I said, all GK needs to do is to look where AoC is attacking because when AoC attacks then GK will instantly know where AoC is attacking. It doesn't matter how far away AoC is cause...
GK just needs to look at AoC and AoC dies. All GK needs to do is look at where AoC is. And even if he cant see AoC if AoC tries to attack, he just needs to look in the direction AoC is attacking from.
Bro, really, you need to stop rehashing the same arguments. I've countered that point already. If you want to ever convince me, try researching and playing fair, and abiding by VS Debating rules. There's no "physics" in fiction, so stop trying to apply it to them. We apply it to them to find...
Invisibility at this point doesn't matter, example being like the Predator cloaks itself to not be seen be human eyes but the Terminator easily tracks it down with thermal vision. GK just needs to look everywhere and AoC dies.
Hax isn't everything.
This needs to be closed.
Lavos becomes Time Devourer. Golden King dies.
Lavos becomes Dream Devourer. Golden King dies(albeit not as quickly, but that's relative, it'll still be pretty quick.)
Even in base 5-A form Lavos would blast Golden King into absolute nonexistence.
Don't pull that physics shit on me. Carno could just go at the Hippo at the right angle. And Stego could lop his head off.
It's all matter of direction.
Actually Naruto doesn't need hax, he just needs to be strong enough and fast enough. Also you definitely haven't looked up Naruto's hax.
You deserve two medals one for being a dumbass and two if you drop the first one
How about we disprove this baby's claims?
First, Strength category. Naruto at his strongest at Tailed Beast Six Paths Sage Mode is Small Planet Level. And Naruto's striking strength goes to where he can possibly shatter brick and metal with ease. Yhwach can ONLY tear through metal with his...
Why? I'm just stating that Luke would beat Vash.
Black holes are nothing against the Force. Darth Vader said it himself when he compared the Death Star, which literally busted planets with its superlaser, as a "child's trinket" compared to the Force. Meaning that the Force is much stronger than...
Dude, in Legends Dark Empire Luke is Solar System Level. He could just use the Force to simultaneously close the black hole and toss Vash the Stampede in.