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  1. Epsilon_R

    BC: Ability revisions

    Nacht mentions light and concepts separately, so he's not referring to the concept of light here (even then, Nacht's world is devoid of light to begin with).
  2. Epsilon_R

    BC: Ability revisions

    Damn the profiles are more outdated than I thought, oh well. Well discard the soul part for now
  3. Epsilon_R

    BC: Ability revisions

    CM, no but I suppose it could count as Non-existent NPI or something, idk
  4. Epsilon_R

    Viernes (Fairy Tail) Conceptual Manipulation Rework

    I thought type 2 were concepts that are not independent to their area on influence. Like, concepts that can be destroyed/altered by destroying all objects bound to it (removing all red in the world to destroy the concepts of red for instance)
  5. Epsilon_R

    BC: Ability revisions

    Damn you're fast asl, didn't even have the time to send it to yall Sure, but the thing is that Light doesn't exist in Nacht's world, so he technically burned something that wasn't even there ?
  6. Epsilon_R

    BC: Ability revisions

    Lucius should gain a layer of power modification, life, mind and soul manip as his Soul Magic works on Devils and Devil hosts, who already have resistance to these effects as listed on their physiology. Edit: I noticed the Devil Physiology page doesn't have life manip, soul manip and power...
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  7. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    We been there already. Thought based time stop versus activation based mt Once again, Lucius doesn't even need precog, and regardless that doesn't stop Lucius from looking into his own future.
  8. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    Well, I figured it would have been less contentious, but I'll make the match in my free time
  9. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    That doesn't matter because by the time Kenshiro sees the future, he will be frozen in time, not able to do a thing. Lucius puts an order into your soul, mind manip resistance hardly matters here. And no, the Devil Power and power of Paladins are not automatically gained the moment he touches...
  10. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    Yeah, I don’t even know why it's an issue right now
  11. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    My brother in christ Reinhard is only 5-C using a tool independent from his physiology. Reinhard doesn't even have 5-C Dura, let alone granted by his sword. Devil Power IS part of Lucius's physiology, that's like Super Sayain to the sayains. This gives him 5-C on both AP and Dura, unlike...
  12. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    Go ahead Another example: Meliodas is literally in the 6-A spot despite his base being High 6-B at best What Matters is whether you are X tier in both AP and Dura at the same time, the other ratings do not matter
  13. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    No it's not. He is 5-C physically but for some reason you act like he's not That's like saying Super Sonic shouldn't be Low 1-C because his base is in a lower tier, that's just dumb.
  14. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    No, that's not how it works. Also read next, "far higher with Sacred Power", him being up to 5-C in a weaker form does not matter.
  15. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    Same for BC, that's one of the reasons in-verse blitzes/one shots are discarded when it comes to cross-verse matches I mean, Lucius can pretty much see 20 thousands futures and at least a good day in advance, maybe even decades as everything went as he foretold even during his 10+ year sleep...
  16. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    He is though? Sacred Power is a transformation that affects both his AP, SS and Durability. Also base Asta got his 5-C key because he managed to damage Lucius in the first place.
  17. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    I was talking about Lucius, also it was speed equal so who knows. Edit: also I just checked, you used High 6-A versions, not even 5-C (but again my point was about Lucius tbh) Same, mainly talking about Lucius According to the other guy, MT only activates when hes in actual danger. Lucius is...
  18. Epsilon_R

    Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

    Can we put Black Clover characters to 5-C 7th spot? Asta in 8th spot went inconclusive with 8th spot Hagoromo while speed was equalized. Lucius recently stomped him too (speed = as well), Unequal speed would make the win even easier. And I think they could take Kenshiro out because of the AP...
  19. Epsilon_R

    Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki vs Lucius Zogratis

    Idk Would his Chakra Spirit stand a better chance
  20. Epsilon_R

    Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki vs Lucius Zogratis

    If it's not a stomp, I vote Lucius.
  21. Epsilon_R

    Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki vs Lucius Zogratis

    He does have it listed, you missed it. Also physical contact isn't a problem when he can teleport and has dozens of clones that can do the same thing.
  22. Epsilon_R

    Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki vs Lucius Zogratis

    Lucius > Julius's Time Magic which could work on beings resistant to every spell in existence. Just having a possible "Time Stop resistance isn't enough" And I doubt his soul manip resistance would matter against Lucius, who doesn't damage or pull out the soul in any way but instead transforms...
  23. Epsilon_R

    Tossing someone all the way out of the solar system

    I see, that makes sense now
  24. Epsilon_R

    Tossing someone all the way out of the solar system

    Assuming the character even survives all the way through, would that count as Lifting Strength? Is so, which rating?
  25. Epsilon_R

    Izuku Midoriya Vs. Luck Voltia (My Hero Academia Vs Black Clover) (0-0-1)

    I don't know, should you take anything Lucky says as facts? 🤔
  26. Epsilon_R

    Izuku Midoriya Vs. Luck Voltia (My Hero Academia Vs Black Clover) (0-0-1)

    About the stats. AP: Luck is actually 31.44, and then reaches 62.88 with True Magic Dura: Dekus Dura stays at 32.44 while Luck's is 62.88, so both can significantly damage the other with their strongest moves, especially Luck since it's piercing damage.
  27. Epsilon_R

    Izuku Midoriya Vs. Luck Voltia (My Hero Academia Vs Black Clover) (0-0-1)

    Hmmm, I need to think about that. Gearshift's effects and Luck being a mini Sonic (speed boost go brr) probably cancel each other's speed advantage, probably. Danger Sense is good, but atp Luck has fought against 2 or 3 opponents with instinctive reactions and precog, so it's not a huge...
  28. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    Nah, I'm done. I'm just gonna say this before leaving: we don't equalize 2 energies because they have the same name, especially something as broad as magic. SBA literally says "a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse...
  29. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    Neither bleach nor BC have layers as per the hax evaluation thread
  30. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    I see, what about Yama's Dura?
  31. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    The heat, but nothing proves his 15M degrees temperature when he coats himself with his flames can reach Asta from kilometers away. The only thing someone told me is that it should be comparable to his RC, and they weren't even sure of that
  32. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    Asta is 356.4 exatons in base, higher with Transformations, 7 Zettatons with Zetten Yama is 100 or 500 exatons depending on the bankai form
  33. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    Oh God.... 《5-C with Minami: Kaka Jumanokushi Zanka no Tachi: Yamamoto's Bankai compresses all of Ryūjin Jakka's flames into the blade itself, radically changing its properties. Zanka no Tachi, Minami: Kaka Jūmanokushi Daisōjin: By stabbing Ryūjin Jakka into the ground, Yamamoto summons the...
  34. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    No, sun's surface
  35. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    Sure, though I don’t really see how Asta could definitely win, at least yet
  36. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    He does actually, that's one of the 2 he uses the most right now And again, the range of the West form bankai (The one with the stated temperature) is not clear. And that's assuming He even starts with it in the first place
  37. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    His causality break is passive as long as he holds his sword Keyword: Bankai's release
  38. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    Nothing says he starts at low 5-B, his Bankai also has 5-C forms If I'm not mistaken
  39. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    Maybe, MAYBE via Causality Negation, he was able to prevent changes in atmosphere with it. The actual question is the range of the heat, cuz the Bankai release's heat is weaker than the West form one, which I doubt it reaches as far as the release.
  40. Epsilon_R

    Yamamato VS Asta

    Asta is 356.4 Exatons, in base. How is Yama stronger without using his low 5-B technique from the start? What's the RC range?
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