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  1. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Jericho Swain vs Utsuho Reiuji

    Aurelion Sol considers Bard his equal. Nobody apart from Aurelion himself gets called from Bard.
  2. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Jericho Swain vs Utsuho Reiuji

    Is the Swain profile using old canon information?
  3. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Frisk Full determination vs Chara.

    Honestly i think its a little...Pointless to use "bloodlusted" Frisk. That's why Chara exists. After all. Now that i think about it. Couldn't Chara possess a bloodlusted Frisk?
  4. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Sans vs Maxine Caulfield

    Not even with this setting Life is Strange wins over Undertale. Sans destroys. after the first second pass he will blitz Max to hell.
  5. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Jericho Swain vs Utsuho Reiuji

    As others said. Swain has the big advantage of his intelligence. Which is for me the reason he wins. In the old lore he was basically unbeatable on the battlefield not because of his power but because of his intellect. I think there was even a quote where it was stated that he never lose a...
  6. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    FW Godzilla vs Asriel(Everything Equalized)

    Top Kek
  7. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Yoshikage Kira vs Tohru Adachi

    Agan. Gameplay mechanics are usually contradictory depending on what. I have my reasons to believe that Yu can't casually summon Izanagi-No-Okami. But since you haven't play P4 yet. I would prefer to not spoil you.
  8. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Yoshikage Kira vs Tohru Adachi

    To be accurate. In P4AU the only time Izanagi-No-Okami shows is via gameplay. I don't think Yu can actually summon him outside gameplay mechanics because if he could. It doesn't really make sense that Izanagi-No-Okami can't kill Hino-Kagutsuchi but a team attack between Izanagi and...
  9. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Sans vs Vader (EU)

    Lets not count his years a jedi. Which should also count.
  10. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Misogi Kumagawa vs Ryougi Shiki

    I didn't say he can't attack without book maker or that hecan't use All Fiction to erase people. I said that Kumagawa primarily fights with Book Maker and don't use All Fiction to erase his enemies. Much less as a first resort.
  11. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Misogi Kumagawa vs Ryougi Shiki

    Kumagawa uses All Fiction for regen and utility. When he wants to attack then he uses Book Maker.
  12. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Sans vs Vader (EU)

    Soul-Manipulation: Blue. One hit to the ground. Get KR'ed and dies.
  13. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Misogi Kumagawa vs Ryougi Shiki

    Kumagawa don't use All Fiction to erase people. Stop bringing that up. With thissaid, if this is Void Shiki she likely wins. All Fiction won't save Kumagawa from MEoDP
  14. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Photoshop Flowey downgrade

    -Azathoth. 1.-We already discuss this before. Flowey's knowledge about Chara's personality and behaviour doesn't traslate into him knowing the limits of her determination and how LOVE will interact with her. Even if they were fused for quite some time. They never gained LOVE when they we're...
  15. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Photoshop Flowey downgrade

    Lets go by points: 1.-I've already debated this before. Yes, Flowey states early in the game that his plan would make him stronger than Chara. Based on his own experiences. THe one of a Souless being. Therefore he had no way to know how much Determination Chara will have and how much LOVE will...
  16. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Photoshop Flowey downgrade

    And those are?
  17. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Photoshop Flowey downgrade

    As you said. Having six souls doesn't automatically makes him stronger than anyone. Since the Determination of 1 SOUL (Specially one that is kin with Determination, like Frisk's or Chara's) can surpass the Determination of multiples SOULs. Then again. We have the issue that it is still unlikely...
  18. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Photoshop Flowey downgrade

    I've already talked about this in other threads. But saying "he has six souls. Therefore is more than two" is NOT an argument.
  19. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Weakest character that can beat Misogi Kumagawa

    On topic: Literally everyone. Kumagawa is a loser.
  20. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Weakest character that can beat Misogi Kumagawa

    What. Book Maker is actually his primary weapon. He rarely uses All Fiction for something that is not regen or utility.
  21. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    The Power Scale Game

    This is really deep end. For you to use Cthulhu vs Boat feat.
  22. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Yata-Mirror vs Truth Seeking Ball

    Someone bring the scan of zetsu pissing his pants in the fight between Sasuke and Itachi.
  23. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Gohan (RoF Saga) VS Future Gohan

    The one with the golden hair
  24. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Korra vs Elsa

    Water Bending =/= Elsa's magic. Even assuming they are the same (They are not. Since Elsa's ice comes from magic) Elsa still has wayyyy more firepower. Also. Elsa literally frozen a kingdom without even knowing it. Elsa with the full intention of beating someone down could just frozen them in...
  25. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 6

    Why they would took three years in "sparring"? Also. I doubt zenkai would have nothing to do with their gain. Specially because it stopped being relevant after Cell.
  26. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Kylo Ren vs Obito Uchiha

    What novelization Kylo Ren did? Or more importanly. Where is the difference between Novel and Movie Kylo Ren?
  27. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 6

    Honestly. For me at least, it is clear that Goku left Frost win. He even smirks and that cough could very well be him acting. After all everyone was moved because of Frost's motives. Also. Frost's is literally Mumen Rider. I can't believe i'm the only one who think about this when he was giving...
  28. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Regarding Chara's Tiering.

    -Squid Peanut 1) I'm actually a little done with explaying this. Because i've explain this a lot of times Talready in this post. But lets do it again: Chara erased the world. She didn't just crashed your game. Flowey destroyed one saved (Which is nothing compare to the entire reality) and...
  29. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Undyne vs Rumble

    Illaoi pulls someone's soul out doesn't kill them. It doesn't even do much damage as normal humans were capable of endure it. So it isn't really that impressive. What kills them are a bunch of other things.
  30. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Undyne vs Rumble

    To be fair. Illaoi's soul manipulation depends more in personality than durability alone. Both Gangplank and a random captain were capable of endure it just because they passed the test. And both were normal humans (Or at least the second one was)
  31. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Undyne vs Rumble

    You can bring them now. If those points were good before they will not be good in the future. Unless what you want to wait is to every undertale supporter left the wiki to put arguments without the possibility of debunk them
  32. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Doctor Fate VS Doctor Strange

    He did that with or without prep time? this is important.
  33. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Regarding Chara's Tiering.

    Sorry for not answering. I was not feeling up to it these days. Anyway. I don't want to do a long post (Tho i will probably will) so lets start -Squid Peanunt 1) Honestly don't see where the speculative parts from Asgore comes up. You could say that their Determination get REALLY high in a...
  34. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Undyne vs Rumble

    Undyne has the speed advantage...And its a big one. I mean, i don't think Undyne in-character would blitz someone without giving him a chance to at least return the punch. But that also doesn't mean she would not try to dodge. With that said, i simply see Rumble being beating down without much...
  35. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Ra (SMITE) vs Azir (LoL) READ THE OP

    I think it's more like. Gameplay battle. Who would win based on the kit. With this said. I think, at least from what i remember i played in SMITE. That Ra should demolish, specially bcause of his burst potency. Something that Azir lacks of and is his direct counte.
  36. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Undyne VS the boulder from Resident Evil 5

    Two words: Suplex City.
  37. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Regarding Chara's Tiering.

    As i said before. Determination is not static. Therefore i don't understeand why you are determined to use concepts like "Frisk's determination (Like implying that Frisk's has only one stable level of determination) but les start: 1.-You are, still, disregarding the context of the fight. Yes...
  38. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Godzilla (2014) vs Zeruel (Rebuild)

    He didn't "tanked" it. He get K.O'ed for it.
  39. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Regarding Chara's Tiering.

    -Talonmask 1.-Yes, yes, and yes. I didn't argue agains that. 2.-You are ignoring the context, again. Both fights happen after Asgore. But they don't have the same context. Neutral run Frisk isn't the same as Genocide run Chara. Therefore first we need to analize the situation of both: A)...
  40. Alice_Liddel_in_WikiLand

    Regarding Chara's Tiering.

    -Promestein. Okay, then. -KennethTL I'm not trying to put Chara at the same level as Asriel, if that helps. -Saikou First and most important. This isn't about proving that Omega Flowey is weaker more than it is intended to proof that Chara is stronger (tho it sounds like the same) And no...
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