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Look death battle has made takes a majority disagree with,
but at the same time like, Vs is subjective. It's fine to disagree but every single person, show and site has different standards. Like If the winner
Because there's no reason not too (Unless something proves it's purely due to mechanics) these are gameplay character's gameplay is one way the game shows feats
Never mind I'm wrong it'll probably be way more impressive... or hit ftl ke and thus inapplicable beyond GBE.
Found this video that gives the best view of the moon in the background possible... the moon moves much further then I thought it did. like holy crap. Shizuna calm down.
Same, but at the same time it makes sense if it's even close to correct. Kenetic energy when moving such large objects at high speeds is bound to get high resaults.
Because I was bored, I uh tried my hand at Shizuna's moon slice. (this is probably wrong again I don't do calculation's but I figure this might get someone's attention)
using the diameter of the moon since it seems to stay mostly intact, (Which I messured to be 446 pixels) the portion of the...
Wait I may have spoken too soon in dismissing KE. Looking frame by frame there IS like 1 or 2 frames where you can see the moon's pieces move apart.
napkin math and eyeballing it, it looks to be like anywhere from Multi continental to small planet level.
(also side note, the speed the slash...
While I can get behind consistancies. I feel like quality of feats is a bit more hard to measure. Especially since there are character's who live off hype, and statements of their past skills.
well
I kinda disagree with that, especially since there are several character's from past games...
Not quite sure I agree with that, considering from everything I know about Shizuna she generally bodies or superior too everyone she fight's, and was even able to snap rean's sword in the brief glimps of her we got in reverie..
Then again Trail's is beyond a headache in the power sclaing...
Agreed, I'd try to do it myself but Lol I'm not quite that good at math and am afraid of inflaiting the resaults somehow. I'd be surprised if this didn't at least get something like at least multicontinental. But I'd imagine Moon level or something like that.
this video actually gives better...
Oh yeah I found another feat that more or less backs up the cosmic scale. Shizuna just cuts the moon in half in her s-craft. (note that it goes from a full moon to a half moon. And this isn't a visual error or anything either, as the s-craft description references this. "Cleaves through...
oh right, curious on the thoughts on Fate S/R. playing it rn and I am enjoying it a lot. (Especially since it's easy on my power-scaling brain, I wanna watch Fgo's plot since I know that's considered good. But uh Fate GO gives my power scaling brain a headache.)
Yes but these statements are usually made when Single target or very small AOE arts are avaliable. But fair enough. Though I'm not sure Tio's statement is a retcon.
Like I mentioned, magic evasion quartz becomes available in Cold Steel as the only way to dodge arts + We know quartz are canonic...
Eh Fair? but at the same time even in cold steel 3 it's straight up said that if an enemy is hard to hit, you should use arts on them. Not a direct "arts can't miss" statement, but definatly means arts are better to use against hard to hit enemies.
It's not just a gameplay thing, though it's acknowledged in the story. In the crossbell games Tio straight up says "Arts can not miss" or well more Specifically, she says in regards to her orbal staff which is compared to arts in function. "Unlike normal arts, there is a chance my attacks will...
OH another thing I'm curious about. How should we take the "Arts can not miss" statements?
On one hand people have dodged them in cutscene. On the other hand They are stated to not miss in gameplay, and act like that. + they only started missing in cutscene AFTER the magic dodge orbments have...
iirc, it was breifly discussed but deemed multiversal was too inconsistant? But I might have misunderstood the conversation from earlier in the thread.
though speaking of descriptions. an enemy description says this from reverie.
"A Zero Guardian that guards key locations. It pierces targets with arrows that shatter the very bounds of time and space."
Possible immesurable speed feat?
Same! i've been looking everywhere for it and it's driving me insane. I keep seeing it brought up.
like I know a enemy in Cold steel 4 is stated to have seemingly infinite power, and several "All of creation" And "space and time" statements Which are probably more helpful for arguing higher...
oh I know there are weird feats, and I've seen some pretty odd scalings for fate generally. But I'm not invested enough into fate to debate on if the average servant get's to Planet level (one of said scalings I've seen) or higher. (Planet level as we understand it anyway's. I know barely enough...
you know I'm getting into the fate series a little bit. (mostly playing the games. Currently playing fate SR), and it's kind of hilarious to me that. Character's are either Island level to small country level to multicontinental for very VERY few NP... Or 1-C. There is zero in between. Or if...
Oh right I keep forgetting to ask. But where is Mcburns s-craft ever compared to a supernova. I see it used for scaling all the time but never actually see the description.
yeah but I'm more thinking more complicated profiles.
Weissman comes to mind, specifically cause he has the Aureole. Which is probably gonna be a headache in terms of putting it's hax and abilities. Since it does a lot of stuff.
Though I feel it might help to have a unified "combat orbmant"...
I remembered this thread after Sky remake was announced + there's also farewell o zemuria coming out in less then a week.
a lot to feats earch and I wish more people where interested in this verse. Would make thisgs so much easier.
I know Finite speeds are useless because Everyone more or less scales to immesurable in Persona and Megaten (And yes I am aware they are the same verse I just always seperate them in my head.)
But I was wondering what the most impressive Finite speeds where.
off the top of my head, I know...
^
it seems like the general consensus for AP is 4-A (currently before any DLC's, or anything people could have missed.) but didn't see anything on speed.
People have tried to downgrade RPG verses before under the premise that special moves do not fit the power level in story. there for special moves are gameplay mechanics and shouldn't count.
Well I'll still try to replay and refresh anyway's and try to give a better explination of my feelings and a different perspective after I'm done. You're still free to disagree however even after I do this If I still end up agreeing with the idea black holes = physical's after my refresher...