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...was describing.
No, the novel, from what I've seen of it, clearly states that Gogeta was slapping Broly around the entire time he was fighting. *You* seem to be the one choosing to ingore what the novel was describing and what does Broly's shocked expression have to do with Ki supression? He...
Seen them, all the dude said was that Gogeta needed a full power kamehameha to kill Broly; never said he could tank it and in the movie he never got hit from the Kamehameha and he was scared of it, so it does seem like he knew he was dead.
Gogeta is stronger than Broly, an unquantifiable amount...
How big of an AP advantge are we talking? If she's basline then I could see him ruining her in H2H since nothing on her profile seems to suggest that she'd be a match for him if it were to come to blows. But, If she somehow manages to hold off until the time limit ends, she wins, but her profile...
Agree with John, the power amps in the ToP were insane. BlueKu seemed relative to Kefla, before she used a smokescreen and surprised attacked him out of blue.
2-C Goku should've been a thing for a while now, they'll have to add it by the next series anyway.
Vote for Goku if we're still doing it, though I think this is a AP stomp, as usual.
DBS fans arent even sure about which is the real numeric value of Goku's scaling chain.
It's not just DBS fans. It's next to impossible to get the actual numeric value since form multipliers are complete speculation, just like the power gaps,if they were to be percentages. But it's pretty easy...
The gap between Low-2C and 2-C is unquantifiable, but GoDs in DB can preform a 2-C feat if two of them clash. So one GoD, or an equal, is half 2-C.
DBS fans arent even sure about which is Goku's scaling chain.
Who's unsure about Goku's scaling chain? It's not that hard to follow.
So, UI Goku has a higher scaling chain, much higher in this case until something else comes up, which could be in one-shot territory and has UI aswell as his other abilities, and speed equal? He should win this, unless there's some hax Godzilla has. Vote for Goku, for now.
While I'm here, What's Gokus best speed feat? At the moment I've got base Goku falling off of Whis mid flight and catching up but it's a gag scene more than anything.
Except that Jiren was stated to possibly surpass the GoDs and yeah "A" GoD cannot defeat him. I'm not saying he'd solo all of them, but power wise he's above them and Gogeta was holding back, true, but it's not like he used a tenth of his power, which is why I said earlier that the gap between...
He has two statements made by whis which is the:
"There lives a mortal even a god of destruction cnnot defeat", there might be more, but these are the two that i remember. Whis repeated this during the SB clash, so I think it's pretty evident that the power Jiren was using was GoD level or...
Magazine hype is stupid and we both agreed on this earlier, but Jiren has multiple statements about him being bove the GoDs, in the ainme itself, that have later been confirmed true by Whis himself, the guy that trained Beerus and should know his power, so I don't think it's stupid at all...
I disagree that they're not that much above Beerus.
Jiren was stated to be above the GoDs before he was even shown on screen and these rumors were confirmed true during the spirit bomb clash. UI Goku is above that by a decent amount and he got two boosts on top that. 2x Beerus doesn't seem too...
When we get to see SSB Goku being stronger than Beerus.
Just use SSBKK thats getting in the 2-C Range.
UI Goku is stronger than Beerus,Rage UI Goku>UI Goku Friendship boost>LB Jiren>UI Goku>Jiren FP>GoDs, that's why I was asking.
LIke could we get possibly 2-C while in Ultra...
From what I remember the manga said the surface same goes for WC. That's the one used.
Also he said he released all his energy but all the counter shockwave did was split the clouds and by taking it to hell he could've just wiped the surface and life wiping everyone. Ask a mod because this has...
I ******* hate dragon ball sometimes. It's Nigh-impossible to scale sometimes and when you do HAVE something it doesn't count.
Also I'm pretty sure Jiren wiped the floor with Kale because she went berserk and was taking out everyone, while the second time she mastered it in like 5 seconds.
>he beat a much stronger version of her in a form 50x weaker than the one he used to attack her.
It goes to show that she was never SSB Goku tier to begin with. Goku did not sustain any notable damaged and he wasn't really interested in her at all later on. He wasn't even afraid of Jiren who...
But it was shown as he was contesting with Jiren in Blue rather casually, nearly knocked him out of the ring too, and if you want to take the Kale thing seriously, which I don't, then he beat a much stronger version of her in a form 50x weaker than the one he used to attack her.
To be honest I just thought that Kale tanking the SSJB Kamehameha was PIS because it ignored all scaling and reason just to give a homage to Broly. Besides it's not like Kale hurt him...He got up moments later with a hard-on to fight Jiren.
>There's still the fact that Jiren being stated as the strongest foe in Dragon Ball history would put him above Beerus.If you by promo magazine Jiren would be weaker than normal SSJ Broly.
It's pretty obvious that they're used to hype up the current main foe. Jiren being above Beerus is fine...
Wouldn't breaking his limits automatically make him stronger when he left the form? He breaks his current limits to attain it so it's not too far fetched to say it sets him comfortably above his previous limits as he;s just shattered them.
IIRC Jiren got knocked against the wall and was forced to break his limits after Goku hit him twice after the 129 blitz, not sure so don't quote me on it.
There's also a magazine that states Jiren is the mightiest foe in DB history, this would include Beerus, they contradict one another all...
Jiren doesn't scale to his own GoD, he's only stated to be stronger than Belmod in the manga by Toppo. In the anime it's said he's the mortal A God of destruction cannot defeat, it's safe to assume not one God can beat him 1v1 on power alone. I do agree the God scale is vast though since G...
Goku scales higher than Gogeta if you add Beerus into the GoDs that can't defeat Jiren, and I don't see why Beerus would be excluded from this statement anyway, only for Goku to do to Jiren what Gogeta did to Broly and he got boosts after that. Seems weird to me.
Shouldn't Goku be 2-C by scaling and statements anyway? Jiren being above the GoDs and all and UI Goku blitzing him then getting boosts on top of that seems like it deserves a bump up if Gogeta got one.