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Helo Glass do you mind checking this CTR me and the boys did that could upgrade DMC3,DMC4 and DMC5 cast to Demon King Level when ypu gotta time?
https://vsbattles.com/threads/maybe-a-dmc2-dmc4-and-dmc5-characters-upgrade.169301/
They say that narrative the guardians clan helped Sparda's seal Argosax away
They are talking about them in plural and do no mention one of them individualy being stronger or weaker them the others ones
Its safe to say they are comparable untill prove otherwise
Yeap, but Tony trie to use...
I mean there still considered important to seal Argosax away along with the others people helping Sparda seal away the others Demon Kings as a group of few people, low bailing them to baseline Demon King level is reasonable imo
Also after days checking for the raws of the DMC5 Nico's Report...
Also if we accept AP=Speed=Hax would that the guardians that helped seal Argosax and the other people that helped seal the others Demon Kings be Demon King levels?
Since even thouth teckinically it was a combined effort of multiple people, but it still would require them to be at least on DK...
Well not sure if should have resistance to precog since the raws mention that Dante can predict the future just like Ducas with BH
Dante's precg abilities is on par with BH himself
I fine with the CTR imo
And yeah, he was talking about DMC1 and DMC2 when he mention that my bad there
Yeap, but the fact that they say that about Arius-Argosax being the strongest but not bolverk in the guidebook tells who they wanna says is the strongest in DMC2 events
This guidebook is talking with DMC1, DMC2, DMC3 and DMC4 in mind, so everithin from this game is covered in that statement
Nah if the devs called Arius-Argosax one of the strongest demons, it wiuld include Bolverk since he was there in DMC2 events and they never mention Bolverk being one of the...
Well, even if wanna take that they never fougth Mundus's army despite being from the DK's army rival
But he still needed to command Argosax's army when he was absent, unless you are saying that there is no 4-C or 4-A around there
Balrog would have to scale to that tier anyway by having the...
Dante summoning a dragon with is very likely is Sparda's pet and can hurt Full Power tells otherwise imo
The devs are including him when they talking about it
Well, he is the DK is well suppose to be governing the DW
He literally got out later to have a remacth with Dante, so nah if Bolverk was really just stayed in one place
He would never got out from that place in the fist place
Or there is nobody worth to command the Fire Hell at that, so...
Well should be changed them just like i'm doing with Arkham with FE and Arius
Plus he did not got haxed like Arkham did with FE, which could imply he is stronger them Arkham since he controled DSS's power better them him
Anyway, lets just leave them as comparable rn to avoid making this...
He already scale to general tier rn
Not really, he already is able to compare to Mid Game Nero who is comparable to Incompleto Savior (Aka general tier)
This Sanctus got a power from the DS that was stated that make him reacth a tier that normal demons will never hope to achieve in their...
Oh my bad there, i'm remembered things wrong XD
The Order of Sword Cast squad are not regular demons just like Arkham with FE and Arius
No normal demon can resonate and get power from portion of a DK being and survive to tell the tale
Plus both the bad guys from eacth gamesare able to...
I fine with that, i'm just thougth he could get at least a ''possibly'' on Argosax's level, but i'm fine with that too imo
I already talked this with Ligth, agree with what you are saying bro
Are you sure, Dante says Trish figthing Savior is a bad ideia from the start, don't seen to inply she...
I fine with that
But Balrog needed to be added since well he scale above BtN Lucia by seveal times which was much stronger them her DMC2 couterpart since she was training since them
I guess a 2-C too before BtN events since Balrog was Argosax's rigth hand even before he trie to get stronger...
I fine with that imo
But one thing to note if we accept Balrog as tier 2 because of Lucia and Arius getting on that tier, it would count as 2-C for DMC3 cast since he was active along with Bolverk in DMC3 events
So if DMC3 gets full 2-C or not depends on DMC2 cast now
Unless we aceept as 2-C...
Well, knowing that Balrog wanted the entire DW as he mentions in BtN, i'm would say that he wanted more them Argosax's side
Even in the anime, they mentions that 'four great demons'' (Balrog likely being one of them) was fighing to see who is gonna rule the DW now that Mundus was sealed by...
Well, undestanding what you are comming from
I aways thouth that the normal assuption is that he is sustaining the DW untill prove otherwise, because unless they explain in details how his sustaining the DW works
What you think about Sealed Mundus escaling above Bolverk and Balrog? Since DMC...
Is the entire reason that V cannot use Nigthmare is because of V's powers skill issues?, pretty sure the guidebook confirming that he can summon the trio in a very weakened state would solve this problem.
Ok, i'm listining man
Well, lets see how this will go:
Dante and Vergil should scale to Demon King level on the same level as Sealed Mundus since is stated that a weakened Vergil can tango with him
By the time of Mundus ressurection, he was easely comanding the DW witheout interferenes despite being heavely...
Well, in that case, everithing that Glass is accepted can be applied, and everithing that he did not agree, should not be applied them
I guess this thread is finished them
Hey Glass, how are you being my friend?
Can you check this CTR that me and Tanin did when you gotta time?
https://vsbattles.com/threads/minor-haxs-additions-for-dmc.167513/
Darm, gonna have to wait on the "wait list" them
I was planning to try to upgrade DMC3 Dante and Vergil, DMC4 Nero, DMC5 Nero, DMC2 Lucia and BtN Lucia keys XD
Nigthmare is stated to got stronger on eacth encouter with Dante, same with the other Mundus's generals
You kinda forget that as stated in the scans that linked in the op that demons can adapt in bad situations all the time, that's cover the rest of unestated AD and RE shenarigans
Also "Dante...
Hell Vanguard would still scale above Vol 1 Dante and the demons no?
Since he is feared in the Demon World for his skill in combat , he should at least scale to demons on that level (8-C rn)
Well, since this debate happened in discord about Nigthmare's skill
He will only scale to Dante and...
Well, just like i'm said alot of demons will get that by demons that are able to tango with sparda descendants and by scaling to demons that fougth them
I'm indiferent if they get instintive reaction or the skill to deal with it, i'm won either way anyway
Yeah, but with the context from vol 1 that changes, whitheout that, yeah, dura was the most safest option
I mean more them 15 demons will scale to that, so is either very common in DMC verse that they have/or the skill to deal with institive reaction guys
Nah your laziness won't alow that...
Yeah, but with the context from vol 1 that changes, whitheout that, yeah, dura was the most safest option
I mean more them 15 demons will scale to that, so is either very common in DMC verse that they have/or the skill to deal with institive reaction guys
So it shou go because of how much...
Well, gonna remove the Resistance Neg since is what people are complaining here
It still good enougth to support RE Neg so i'm happy with that
Well, because demons materials and their skins is the same thing in universe, so it should work imo
We even see in BtN demons like the Enpuza being...
Basically what Lady said
Demons are more powerfull in their demon forms (True Form) them on their human forms
Transformation and statistic amplification basically
Well, since Trish is the only the thing that people are agasit here rn
I going to remove it so we can move on since is not worth dying on a hill for it.
I never tried to scale Nightmare to Dante before tho?