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  1. MJF6219

    Grey Hulk and Thing Revision

    @ Ant and Matt Yea no one here Was trying to give a bunch of different profiles those keys, mainly just Thing, since out of every character I just listed in my post (8th up from this one) the Thing is the only one who doesn't have a 4-B rating, despite having an uncanny amount of consistency of...
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    Grey Hulk and Thing Revision

    No Silver Age? And yea maybe like Bronze Age | Modern Age Keys would make more sense then Classic and Modern.
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    Grey Hulk and Thing Revision

    Yep, agreed. Within the Bronze Age of marvel, like a huge portion of the Brute-like characters (Thing, Hulk, Hercules, Thor, Silver Surfer, Namor, Juggernaut, Abomination, etc) used to all be treated as being comparable to each other. It seems clear that isn't really the case anymore, but at a...
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    Grey Hulk and Thing Revision

    @Ant Well yea they are overall treated as weaker then some of the 4-B characters, but do you truly think they should be considered like Billions of times weaker then them? Since like even if we put them as High 5-A, I'm pretty that's still a huge gap between being even baseline 4-B. Plus The...
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    Raimi Spider-Man Downgrade

    @Zark Yep I agree. The normal Pumpkin Bombs are Small Building level at minimum for vaporizing Eddie Brock and the Symbiote. The original debate was rather or not we should assume the amount of energy it took to vaporize the symbiote, which in Spino's calc he assumes vaporizing the symbiote...
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    Raimi Spider-Man Downgrade

    Ugh. On from one Assumption to another real quick. I swear man, just a bunch of scaling and assumptions. This wiki is not about trying to upgrade a character/verse every chance you get nor is it about trying to see how high you can get your favorite character/verse up the Ap/tier list. It's...
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    Raimi Spider-Man Downgrade

    I don't think scaling the flash bomb to his regular bombs would be a good idea at all since there quite different from each other. The flash bomb seemed to purely be an Anti-personnel Bomb since it vaporized those people but did absolutely nothing to the surrounding environment/non-organic...
  8. MJF6219

    Grey Hulk and Thing Revision

    Since it seems like She-Hulk is getting a Classic key and Modern key and considering that Captain Marvel already has a Classic and Modern key, it made me think that giving these 3 characters (Grey Hulk, Thing, and Namor) Classic and Modern Keys probably wouldn't be a bad idea. Since a lot of the...
  9. MJF6219

    The Terminator feats mix up

    Yea that's true. Carl, Grace, and the Rev-9 were all treated as being quite comparable to each other in terms of raw Ap and durability anyway.
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    The Terminator feats mix up

    Well yea if Carl and Grace truly were a few feet away from the blasts epicenter, whoever calcs the explosion can just use inverse square law to find out how much of the explosions energy they actually survived, but considering that they really weren't that far away from the explosions epicenter...
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    The Terminator feats mix up

    @Alien Dual Blaster Well to be fair I've only seen the explosion like once and I can't seem to find it online anywhere. But I'm sure when the time comes for someone to calc that explosion, there will probably be a discussion about everyone's distance from The epicenter of the explosion and all...
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    The Terminator feats mix up

    Well yea the T-850's fuel cell probably was more impressive but it doesn't scale to the T-850 or any of the terminators physically since they can't survive their own fuel cell explosion. The explosion at the end of Dark Fate is probably the best explosion they actually could scale to physically.
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    The Terminator feats mix up

    @Colonel I was wondering that myself as well. Honestly though if someone were to calc the explosion at the end of Dark Fate (The one that Carl, Grace, and the Rev-9 survived, albeit they all took heavy damage from it), I wouldn't be surprised if it yields higher results then anything else we've...
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    The Terminator feats mix up

    Ha, yea I had a feeling that was Pops. It's funny how the worst movie in the franchise (Genisys) features easily the most potent Film T-800 yet (Pops), thanks to the upgrade he got at the end of that movie.
  15. MJF6219

    The Terminator feats mix up

    Which Terminator was known as "Guardian"?
  16. MJF6219

    Can Reaction Speed be used to find KE?

    So does anyone know who created or at least who supports the Rhedosaurus page?
  17. MJF6219

    Raimi Spider-Man Downgrade

    Ehh, I think that last part confused some of us. When Zark said "At least 9-A" I don't think he meant "At least 9-A+". And the Small Building level+ rating literally only comes from Spino's calc that makes an assumption about the amount of energy it would require to vaporize the Symbiote...
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    Raimi Spider-Man Downgrade

    Yea I agree with an "At least Small Building level" since it would obviously be harder to vaporize a human and the Symbiote together rather then just vaporizing a human, but trying to figure out exactly how much energy it would require to vaporize the symbiote would be relatively impossible, for...
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    Raimi Spider-Man Downgrade

    @Zark and Antvasima What do you guys personally think about Spino's calc? Not about the math part of it, but about it's assumption on much energy it would require to vaporize the Symbiote?
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    Raimi Spider-Man Downgrade

    Yea I remember seeing that calc a long time ago and I also Remember never fully agreeing with it since It makes an Assumption about the How much energy it would require to vaporize the Symbiote when: 1. The symbiote isn't real, therefore it isn't made of any known substance. 2. The symbiote...
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    90s Spider-Man AKA Fox Kids Spider-Man Feat Discussion

    On Spider-Man's page his speed currently sits at Massively Hypersonic for dodging lighting. I don't really recall Spider-Man dodging real lighting Throughout the series, do you know of any moments throughout the series where Spider-Man dodged anything that could classify as real lighting?
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    Raimi Spider-Man Downgrade

    So currently the whole Verses's Ap comes from Green Goblin's pumpkin bombs for being able to vaporize six people. The problem with that feat is that the pumpkin bomb that vaporized six people was quite clearly not the same type of traditional pumpkin bomb used throughout the trilogy. The pumpkin...
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    The Terminator feats mix up

    Yea the Terminator page has been a little bit of a mess for a while now, some revisions and fixings would definitely be a good idea. I saw Terminator Dark Fate and it definitely looked like there were some good supporting feats for film T-800's, Grace, and the Rev-9 that would probably yield...
  24. MJF6219

    Can Reaction Speed be used to find KE?

    Oh yea, if enough people agree with his KE being false then he'll definitely get downgraded since he doesn't seem to have any other Blatant 8-C feats. Whoever supports his page should probably go back to the movie and find out a way to calculate his actual running/travel speed to get a real...
  25. MJF6219

    Can Reaction Speed be used to find KE?

    And another thing that's off about the kinetic energy Calc that's on Rhedosaurus's page is that it assumes he can move his entire 500 ton body at 265 ft./s because he dodged a Bazooka round, but when you watch the clip of him dodging the Bazooka round You can tell that's not what happened, he...
  26. MJF6219

    90s Spider-Man AKA Fox Kids Spider-Man Feat Discussion

    Yea I've always thought the same about his profile, it looked like someone just slapped on a 9-A rating without getting any calcs done or any good reasons on why he should be 9-A. This thread is a great idea. I've actually seen every episode of Spider-Man the Animated Series but it's been...
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    DEATHBATTLE! Accuracy Scale [Part 3] | Part 4: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:3692177

    Glacius Vs Sub-Zero is a stomp for Glacius, He's got way higher AP then Sub-Zero. Venom Vs Bane Is a stomp in Venom's favor. He has way higher Ap, durability, speed, and Regenerationn.
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    Can Reaction Speed be used to find KE?

    Looking at the Rhedosaurus page and seeing how his Ap is based on a KE calc that's using his Reaction Speed rather than conventional running/travel speed made me wonder, is using a character's reaction speed to find their KE even applicable? Not just for Rhedosaurus, but for any character/KE...
  29. MJF6219

    Slight Weapon Ap Correction for Master Chief

    Oh, I thought it was locked for whatever reason. Anyways, I just fixed them real quick.
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    Master Chief vs Captain America (MCU)

    Cap would Speed Blitz stomp if speed isn't equalized.
  31. MJF6219

    Slight Weapon Ap Correction for Master Chief

    His M41 SPKNr Rocket Launcher is listed as Building level and the Incineration Cannon is listed as Small Town level in the "Standard Weaponry and Equipment" and "Additional Weaponry and Equipment" parts of his profile, but as stated here the M41 SPKNr Rocket Launcher is actually Small Building...
  32. MJF6219

    Calculation Evaluations - 16

    Importance/Priority: 1 (These Feats/Calcs are needed to make the pages of every character in the verse) Name of the Verse: Inhumanoids Description: A Giant Monster bursts from the ground. A Guy smashes through a wall. A Giant Monster smashes through a wall. A Giant Monster survives a...
  33. MJF6219

    8-C Monster Brackets Round 11

    Yea I agree with GyroNutz about Rhedosaurus's regen being Mid-Low to High-Low, and to be honest Rhedosaurus's whole 8-C KE calc seems quite iffy to me due to the fact that it's using his reaction speed rather than conventional running speed. I don't think I've ever seen that done before in a KE...
  34. MJF6219

    Rick Taylor vs Predalien

    Rick FRA, plus while in berserker mode he'd have the range advantage for sure due to his super long bone based attacks.
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