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@ Ant and Matt
Yea no one here Was trying to give a bunch of different profiles those keys, mainly just Thing, since out of every character I just listed in my post (8th up from this one) the Thing is the only one who doesn't have a 4-B rating, despite having an uncanny amount of consistency of...
Yep, agreed. Within the Bronze Age of marvel, like a huge portion of the Brute-like characters (Thing, Hulk, Hercules, Thor, Silver Surfer, Namor, Juggernaut, Abomination, etc) used to all be treated as being comparable to each other. It seems clear that isn't really the case anymore, but at a...
@Ant
Well yea they are overall treated as weaker then some of the 4-B characters, but do you truly think they should be considered like Billions of times weaker then them? Since like even if we put them as High 5-A, I'm pretty that's still a huge gap between being even baseline 4-B.
Plus The...
@Zark
Yep I agree. The normal Pumpkin Bombs are Small Building level at minimum for vaporizing Eddie Brock and the Symbiote. The original debate was rather or not we should assume the amount of energy it took to vaporize the symbiote, which in Spino's calc he assumes vaporizing the symbiote...
Ugh. On from one Assumption to another real quick. I swear man, just a bunch of scaling and assumptions.
This wiki is not about trying to upgrade a character/verse every chance you get nor is it about trying to see how high you can get your favorite character/verse up the Ap/tier list. It's...
I don't think scaling the flash bomb to his regular bombs would be a good idea at all since there quite different from each other. The flash bomb seemed to purely be an Anti-personnel Bomb since it vaporized those people but did absolutely nothing to the surrounding environment/non-organic...
Since it seems like She-Hulk is getting a Classic key and Modern key and considering that Captain Marvel already has a Classic and Modern key, it made me think that giving these 3 characters (Grey Hulk, Thing, and Namor) Classic and Modern Keys probably wouldn't be a bad idea. Since a lot of the...
Well yea if Carl and Grace truly were a few feet away from the blasts epicenter, whoever calcs the explosion can just use inverse square law to find out how much of the explosions energy they actually survived, but considering that they really weren't that far away from the explosions epicenter...
@Alien Dual Blaster
Well to be fair I've only seen the explosion like once and I can't seem to find it online anywhere.
But I'm sure when the time comes for someone to calc that explosion, there will probably be a discussion about everyone's distance from The epicenter of the explosion and all...
Well yea the T-850's fuel cell probably was more impressive but it doesn't scale to the T-850 or any of the terminators physically since they can't survive their own fuel cell explosion.
The explosion at the end of Dark Fate is probably the best explosion they actually could scale to physically.
@Colonel
I was wondering that myself as well. Honestly though if someone were to calc the explosion at the end of Dark Fate (The one that Carl, Grace, and the Rev-9 survived, albeit they all took heavy damage from it), I wouldn't be surprised if it yields higher results then anything else we've...
Ha, yea I had a feeling that was Pops. It's funny how the worst movie in the franchise (Genisys) features easily the most potent Film T-800 yet (Pops), thanks to the upgrade he got at the end of that movie.
Ehh, I think that last part confused some of us. When Zark said "At least 9-A" I don't think he meant "At least 9-A+". And the Small Building level+ rating literally only comes from Spino's calc that makes an assumption about the amount of energy it would require to vaporize the Symbiote...
Yea I agree with an "At least Small Building level" since it would obviously be harder to vaporize a human and the Symbiote together rather then just vaporizing a human, but trying to figure out exactly how much energy it would require to vaporize the symbiote would be relatively impossible, for...
@Zark and Antvasima
What do you guys personally think about Spino's calc? Not about the math part of it, but about it's assumption on much energy it would require to vaporize the Symbiote?
Yea I remember seeing that calc a long time ago and I also Remember never fully agreeing with it since It makes an Assumption about the How much energy it would require to vaporize the Symbiote when:
1. The symbiote isn't real, therefore it isn't made of any known substance.
2. The symbiote...
On Spider-Man's page his speed currently sits at Massively Hypersonic for dodging lighting. I don't really recall Spider-Man dodging real lighting Throughout the series, do you know of any moments throughout the series where Spider-Man dodged anything that could classify as real lighting?
So currently the whole Verses's Ap comes from Green Goblin's pumpkin bombs for being able to vaporize six people. The problem with that feat is that the pumpkin bomb that vaporized six people was quite clearly not the same type of traditional pumpkin bomb used throughout the trilogy. The pumpkin...
Yea the Terminator page has been a little bit of a mess for a while now, some revisions and fixings would definitely be a good idea.
I saw Terminator Dark Fate and it definitely looked like there were some good supporting feats for film T-800's, Grace, and the Rev-9 that would probably yield...
Oh yea, if enough people agree with his KE being false then he'll definitely get downgraded since he doesn't seem to have any other Blatant 8-C feats. Whoever supports his page should probably go back to the movie and find out a way to calculate his actual running/travel speed to get a real...
And another thing that's off about the kinetic energy Calc that's on Rhedosaurus's page is that it assumes he can move his entire 500 ton body at 265 ft./s because he dodged a Bazooka round, but when you watch the clip of him dodging the Bazooka round You can tell that's not what happened, he...
Yea I've always thought the same about his profile, it looked like someone just slapped on a 9-A rating without getting any calcs done or any good reasons on why he should be 9-A.
This thread is a great idea. I've actually seen every episode of Spider-Man the Animated Series but it's been...
Glacius Vs Sub-Zero is a stomp for Glacius, He's got way higher AP then Sub-Zero.
Venom Vs Bane Is a stomp in Venom's favor. He has way higher Ap, durability, speed, and Regenerationn.
Looking at the Rhedosaurus page and seeing how his Ap is based on a KE calc that's using his Reaction Speed rather than conventional running/travel speed made me wonder, is using a character's reaction speed to find their KE even applicable? Not just for Rhedosaurus, but for any character/KE...
His M41 SPKNr Rocket Launcher is listed as Building level and the Incineration Cannon is listed as Small Town level in the "Standard Weaponry and Equipment" and "Additional Weaponry and Equipment" parts of his profile, but as stated here the M41 SPKNr Rocket Launcher is actually Small Building...
Importance/Priority: 1 (These Feats/Calcs are needed to make the pages of every character in the verse)
Name of the Verse: Inhumanoids
Description:
A Giant Monster bursts from the ground.
A Guy smashes through a wall.
A Giant Monster smashes through a wall.
A Giant Monster survives a...
Yea I agree with GyroNutz about Rhedosaurus's regen being Mid-Low to High-Low, and to be honest Rhedosaurus's whole 8-C KE calc seems quite iffy to me due to the fact that it's using his reaction speed rather than conventional running speed. I don't think I've ever seen that done before in a KE...