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If I had a nickel for every time that a verse I like had prior High 1-B threads but nothing came of it and also that supporters of the verse and people invested in their verse discussion thread just slowed down on posting stuff, then I’d have two nickels; one for PMMM and one for Nasuverse...
Yeah, even outside of this wiki, a lot of people seem to hate Nasuverse being OP. I don't have any stakes over it anymore cuz honestly I couldn't care about arbitrary VS stats anymore (which is why I'm hardly active even though I was around when Fate being Tier 2), but it's pretty wild how many...
For cosmology stuff, maybe that G1 thing could suffice for cosmology? I remember ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn posted it here a few pages back.
I'll repost it, here. Read it if ya all like. (BTW I didn't mean to imply I WANT to downgrade Nasuverse, I just said it might since no one here's making much...
Yeah that's fair. No one's made a true cosmology blog on the Nasuverse, so I think it's best to just downgrade them to before what the Higher-D stuff was. No one can prove it now anyways since like you said, those two aren't interested in Nasuverse scaling anymore.
I'm expecting Nasuverse to...
Wow yeah it seems like a lot of old Nasu supporters have left. I myself only was barely active here wayyy back (pretty much only a lurker by now) but I remember people like Paul Frank, Crimson, and the others who started the 1-A Root thread and also the start of higher-D Nasuverse. Seems like...
I like that the Saber verdict seems to acknowledge that Fate can be rather wild, and thus used different ends ranging from only merely Mountain level, then slowly going up the scaling. And while not in the verdict, they mentioned in the Heroic Spirit section about the more "wild" and iffy stuff...
True Bahamut is damn hax lmao
His existence erasure is also likely multiversal range since it affected Zena, who’s an alternate universe version of Zethia
And yeah now Euden and Zethia got Bondforged forms and they can survive that EE as long as they have their memories I guess. which is weird...
Agree with everything here.
You know, its funny how both Achilles and Karna have that similar feat of being able to just stay manifested even after they're literally dead. Since Apocrypha stated that they're the two most powerful Servants in that Grail War.
Okay I tried again and this time this might be Tier 0
I don't know if the AI is a genius or is just randomly looking at VS forums for its text to make these gigantic cosmologies.
Its even using omniverse and pataphysics oh no, the AI is learning
also just realized this AI crap said smth about being literally beyond anything humanity and whatever possible higher bs will ever imagine or think of, so does that include pataphysics and narrative layers like the recent Tier 0 SCP lmao
Nah Abu's right this AI-written nonsense is just 11-A
remember we have to consider author intent, and the author is a literal AI program, so 11-A at best
the author never had VS in mind so we should always use author intent no matter how dumb it is.
Servantverse Servants =\= Chaldea Servants so this isn't scalable right?
And yeah the Ether buffed the Servantverse Servants so this would only apply to being within the Servantverse, not anywhere else
See ya all in the inevitable Low 1-C Touhou thread
Yeah this thread can be closed now. Seems very clear and decisive that H1-C to 1-B Touhou isn't a thing based on all the points already said earlier.
Ahhh, okay, gotcha.
I was confused for a bit. I thought you meant that the whole cosmology is L1-C, just that no one scaled and its an outlier.
But you actually meant IF it was legit L1-C
Which it isn't.
So the whole cosmology is still 2-B then?
But this would mean that the whole cosmology itself is 5D/L1-C then right? Like sure, it wouldn't scale to the Dream World, and would only scale to Yukari- but its an outlier.
But still, this means that the whole verse itself is L1-C then.
Damnnnnn it I wanna debate against this but I can't think of anything :(
Imma just wait and hope Onsokuno, Doge, Overlord, Shmooply and Mokou can save the day because I am wayyyyy over my head here unfortunately
Well damn.
This went downhill fast.
So basically, from what everyone else is saying...
String and branes are just barely mentioned, and its vague on how they work and we don't know how these higher worlds function + 10th and 11th brane and explicit higher dimensions are not mentioned + the...
Well alright then. I guess Prom and Saikou make sense, I'll be the bigger person and admit when I'm wrong.
But still, like what Pixy said, can this still be salvaged into a 5D/L1-C tier? I'd very much still love a Touhou buff lmao
Question
Since Brane + String theory cosmology is enough to warrant a H1-C tier, does this mean that said verse has to exactly be like the actual theories? You claim Touhou's definition of Branes and string theory is different from the irl theory- whats the proof for this? We clearly see...
I say we should wait for Ultima to help sort this out imo
They're really knowledgeable with H1-C stuff after all
I just don't want Ultima to come into the thread and be overwhelmed by so many messages, like how the older Touhou threads got so jam-packed so the mods lost track of what's the...
Oh. My apologies then.
I was under the impression that this was the case. Sorry if I was derailing or confusing you then.
I'll just let Onsokuno handle this.
It doesn't matter if Touhou's world doesn't show "ontological superiority" or "qualitative superiority" or infinitely ascending.
Onsokuno already stated in the OP that Brane Theory and String Theory are already legit H1-C ratings anyways.
The point of this thread is that basically Touhou...
No worries we just have to show evidence to the staff that this buff is legit- and Onsokuno already has the evidence and justifications all in the opening post so we just need to wait for some more staff
I heard of Ein Sof and Kaballah and Taiji, but I don’t know what Brahman, Nirvana or Ultimate Reality are.
I am very certain that the AI just slapped some fancy sounding philosophical words from around the internet, but if THATS Tier 0 then wow…