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I AM certainly is 0, yeah. Overall, Tier 0 come the revisions is more or less a totally self-sufficient and cosmology-independent tier. You could have a verse where the only cosmological structure around is the Monad and it'd still be 0. The true authors for sure aren't 0, though, since they're...
You asked about a hypothetical scenario where a verse "concretely establishes mathematical hierarchies as encompassing and dwarfing R>F or other qualitative hierarchies." BDE is a perfectly valid illustrative example and not at all outside of the parameters you prescribed.
And the information...
...aleph_2, or any other, really). In practice, you could say this is basically a tier for things that encompass all mathematical objects, so, TypeIV Multiverses and the like would fall here.
To not get into too much technicalities, you can call it absolute infinity, if you like. (Though...
A significant step-up. Although, by that, I assume it doesn't have internal *in*consistencies.
I think this is pretty succinctly explained by the fact that "All classically possible worlds + Non-classical worlds" doesn't really have a different cardinality or any metric by which we might say...
...problems entirely at R>F Transcendence.
Especially seeing as every debate we've had over this subject in the past (Whether focused around TypeIV Multiverses, or BDE, or whatever else) has, if I recall, ended with you pointing out that upgrading any of these things to their proper places...
...It just worked on debunking Tier 0 and nothing else. Given we already rated the Downstreamers at Low 1-A before based on scaling off of a TypeIV Multiverse, why is everyone not just pointing out they should be downgraded to where they were at before, instead of Low 2-C? Feel like this should...
It did, in fact, happen with BDE, and in fact it was one of the things emphasized to me back when my proposal to upgrade it to High 1-A was rejected. Though, frankly, if you think that "An uncountably infinite gap in volume" is not even an erroneous-yet-necessary compromise, or anything, but a...
...can't understand it." Same principle goes here.
Kek, I should've probably have hit harder on that key.
Anyway: My point was never about a TypeIV Multiverse, per se, and nor was I saying that, just because math is information, it should all be instantiated in reality. To summarize: We know...
Largely because the premise of a TypeIV Multiverse is that mathematical objects exist as platonic forms that are physically instantiated as various types of universes, each corresponding to a given formal system describing its structure. So, 1-A would be due to the fact that the mathematical...
1-B looks pretty straightforward to me, looking only at the tidbits about higher dimensions.
As for the TypeIV Multiverse stuff: Tier 0 would require bringing up slightly more advanced mathematics, and the endlessness of that hierarchy would just lead to this possibility being disregarded as a...
...off of a single text (Or multiple texts), none of which are inherently more valid or truthful than the other for our purposes. What sets a TypeIV Multiverse apart from such things in this context is that it does have one specific, technical, set-in-stone definition, which, if deviated from...
...place. Although, if he fully transcends spacetime in relation to a High 1-B Multiverse, then he'd be 1-A anyways, I suppose.
Regarding the TypeIV Multiverse stuff: I am fairly sure the "Level N Multiverse" described there is literally just referring to the TypeIV Multiverse itself...
They are mathematical insofar as the rest of reality, too, abides by mathematics and exists in perfect correspondence to it, not in the sense they are literally the same as the platonic world that Tegmark describes. The MUH moreso posits that mathematics exist as the underlying substratum of...
...use: the Mathematical Universe Hypothesis, which some of you know might be vaguely familiar with, since it is also known by another name, a TypeIV Multiverse.
Basically, this is a cosmological model which posits that mathematical existence and physical existence are, in fact, one and the...
...after piecing some of that stuff together: The Discworld Multiverse being Low 1-A in the first place apparently comes from the fact a TypeIV Multiverse is mentioned in The Science of Discworld, and Time would apparently be Low 1-A as well due to encompassing this whole structure, according...
...exist" statement as something separate from the implication that mathematics governs reality, and thus that Manifold takes place in a TypeIV Multiverse, when they are just informing the same thing and building upon a single context. In fact, your examples and other similar arguments seem to...
These statements are pretty clearly referring to the Mathematical Universe Hypothesis (A TypeIV Multiverse), which is sorta tricky to tier because you could either say it's somewhere into 1-A or highball it to the death using the statements about all logically consistent mathematical structures...
This doesn't seem like it fully addresses my argument, as of yet. You've noticed that, while I brought up the lack of any effects indicative of such ratings, I also complemented it with something else, namely that our standards also use the frequency with which this occurs in fiction to appeal...
Yes, but as far as I know, the Akashic Records are strictly only part of the DeSu2 Multiverse, which is visibly 100% separate from the one featured in the main series, which is YHVH's Multiverse, where Demons are Data provenient of the Expanse / The Great Will, as the screenshot you posted...
Hi all.
So, a bit ago, I made this thread. It got accepted, and the result of it was the discarding of the previous purely mathematical basis for tiers Low 1-A and above. These tiers, then, were changed to the following:
Here, you can see a fairly clear progression on how the Tiering System...
...supporting material, given how the Mathiverse is simply supposed to be... well, Math, just visualized as a conglomerate of spaces; A genuine TypeIV Multiverse if you will.
However, Agnaa is correct in that the same would technically apply to theology (theology, not religion, there's a...