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Chariot190
Chariot190
I mean he literally does. The calc itself is literally him halting it in its tracks, you realize that right? It's basic Mass Acceleration, the feat isn't Outer Haven's ram, it's him forcing it to a complete stop.
WeeklyBattles
WeeklyBattles
Except he doesnt, it physically crushes him and nearly kills him, he doesnt stop it at all
Chariot190
Chariot190
Except he does, he literally stops it in its tracks instantly, in less than a second. And proceeds to do so for like a full minute. This is 8-A. The act of him forcing it to a halt is a 8-A feat that scales directly to him as he caused it, and then keeps it up for like a full minute, even outright caving in the hull after a full 20 seconds. The 8-A feat is his feat.

He's effectively being bombarded with 8-A attacks every single second for a full minute, before finally giving in, compare this to something like Thor tanking energy from a star for like a full minute, except far more blatant in this case.

>>nearly kills.
So I take it you haven't played the game then right? I'm going to blunt here Weekly, stop trying to pretend you have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.
Twellas
Twellas
Jesus christ you gotta be ******* kidding me
WeeklyBattles
WeeklyBattles
He really doesnt, if you actually watch the scene you see that the ship continues to move even while he's pushing against it, destroying the ground hes standing on and causing the armor hes pushing back against to dent and eventually rolling over him entirely once his strngth gives out

Ive played almot all of the metal gear games and would really appreciate it if you stopped accusing people of not knowing what theyre talkig about just because they disagree with you
WeeklyBattles
WeeklyBattles
Like i said i talked to Mdeus about it and even he agrees with me
Twellas
Twellas
You do realize that the 8-A feat is just the halting itself, right? And that Raiden still kept that shit back for like 50 full seconds? And you do know that at that point Raiden had just lost an arm, had most if not all of his internal organs pierced by Vamp, and was actively being poisoned by his own blood due to not completing the dialisis?

In what ******* universe does Raiden NOT scale to that feat?
WeeklyBattles
WeeklyBattles
He didnt halt it is the problm, it kept moving even when he was pushing back against it
Twellas
Twellas
It literally stops, you can see it here, it's not even up for interpretation, for ****'s sake. The impact is the 8-A feat, him eventually buckling down under the preassure is absolutely irrelevant
Twellas
Twellas
You literally see the water around Outer Haven going calm due to it stopping, have you even watched the cutscene?
WeeklyBattles
WeeklyBattles
It doesnt stop, watch th actual video, it never stops it only gets partially slowed down. Ive showed this to Abstractions, Zark, and APM and they agree as well
WeeklyBattles
WeeklyBattles
Yes ive watched it as have all the people who agree it doesnt scale to Raiden
Chariot190
Chariot190
Ah my bad, he only halts it's momentum to something like a few cm a minute and keeps it within one place to the point it caves in the hull. Why are you lying?
Twellas
Twellas
Well, Abstraction, Zark and APM need to have their eyes checked, because this is clear as day, it's getting absolutely laughable at this point
Chariot190
Chariot190
Oh better yet, we actually see a sideshot of it. How much do you want to bet that if I go frame by frame of it and take its position from the start and end of the shot. It wouldnt have moved at all?
Twellas
Twellas
Twellas
Twellas
There's genuinely no way you sat down, looked at this and decided "yeah, Outer Haven isn't actually halted", and if you did you are either blind or out to nerf the verse for some reason, and I absolutely despise "playing the victim", but this is clearly a case of people going out of their way to try and nerf a verse
Chariot190
Chariot190
The ******* hull itself caves in before it can continue making any actual progress again.
Like jesus **** even halving the ******* thing's speed alone would be 8-B, let alone making it grind and halting it to the extent he did. If anything the calc is a hilarious low end given it's ignoring the fact it has skyscrapers and mecha stored within it.
Twellas
Twellas
Yeah, the mass for Outer Haven that's given in the calc is just around 5 thousand tons below the actual weight, because it doesn't account for the 10 RAY units on board
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