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An infinite^infinite 4-D plane does not equate to 5-D because 0^0=1.

0^0 is indeterminate - it has many different conflicting answers depending on how you approach it. But having a size of 0 is relevant.

To take things down to a more workable level, even a countably infinite amount of 0-D points has a collective size of 0 relative to 1-D measurements. However, countable infinity^countable infinity = the power set of countable infinity, which is an uncountable infinity. And an uncountably infinite amount of 0-D points has a non-zero size relative to 1-D measurements.

For another reason why it's not really equivalent to 0^0, 2 0-D points have a size of 0 using 1-D measurements, but if we get 2^2 0-D points, that would still have a size of 0 going by 1-D measurements, even if, naively looking from a 1-D perspective, both of these things can be interpreted as just 0^0.

Bump again, just a very simple question though...

The question is if ones could affect an infinite number of 5D universes would that be more impressive than affecting an infinite 5D universe (singular) only? I've heard somewhere (which I think is a misconception) that separated universes means nothing in Tier 1.

It would probably be more impressive. Technically, there is a niche situation where they'd be the same; if the universes in the "infinite number of 5D universes" part were all finite universes that weren't separated from each other. Since in that case they'd both be one infinite area of 5-D spacetime.

Separated universes mean stuff in tier 1 but most people don't look closely enough to care about these sorts of differences once you get to tier 1.

Thank you!

Hey Agnaa. If, or when, you're not too busy, could you please provide some input in this thread. It's regarding the last question that GreatIskandar asked you, and I feel that there's some kind of clarification missing. Your input would really be appreciated, and could clear some things up. Thanks

That thread's way too big for me to read, what's the issue? Please post the relevant argument here.

We are arguing the potent of an infinite number of 11D universes in comparison to baseline High 1-C, wether just infinitely above the baseline or higher that that, I argue it is higher than just infinite baseline since said difference is like 2-A vs Low 2-C, thus larger than the conventional infinite gap between infinite-sized Low 2-C and Low 2-C because the universes are separated.

It'd be unquantifiably larger, yeah. But just like with 2-A vs Low 2-C, Low 2-C hax would still work on a 2-A character, and speed would likely be on a similar level too. It doesn't seem like it'd hugely change the outcome of the match.

Thank you! We are arguing about the AP difference after all.

Also, I wouldn't say it's "larger than infinitely above baseline". We can't really compare it to statements of "infinitely stronger", we just don't know how to in a consistent way.

Yeah I understand, because the distance of said universes is unquantifiable, right? We just don't know how large it is.

Yup, exactly.

Hey Agnaa. Sorry I couldn't comment on here earlier. So the argument was whether the quantity of universes destroyed as an 11-D being would give the character an AP advantage over a being that can can destroy a single 11-D realm, with the difference being likened to that that exists between a 2-C and a 2-A being, even when, in this case, both characters are High 1-C characters. I get that there is a difference, but wouldn’t that difference just be to show how much above baseline High 1-C a character is; like how destroying a single 11-D universe would get you baseline High 1-C, destroying 2 11-D universes would get you 2x above baseline, and likewise, destroying an infinite amount of 11-D universes would get you “infinitely above baseline High 1-C”. In this case, we have two characters; High Priest, whose lower cap is “infinitely above baseline High 1-C”, and Simon, who from GreatIskander’s argument, should also be “infinitely above baseline” or possibly even lower, via destroying an infinite amount of 11-D universes. In this case, from what I understand, there shouldn’t really be an AP difference (if anything, it should be in High Priest's favor), but GreatIskander is claiming that there is one somehow, and that Simon should have the superior AP from being so far above “infinitely above baseline" High 1-C (which from my understanding, is still the same thing as “infinitely above baseline”).

He already said that separated universes is mean stuff even for tier 1, but sure.

Destroying 2 11-D universes is not 2x above baseline. In the same way that destroying 2 timelines is not 2x above Low 2-C. We don't use multipliers there, the difference is unknown. It could be 2x, it could be less, it could be more. They can't meaningfully be compared.

If the match literally comes down to nothing but AP, I'd vote inconclusive since they can't be compared.

It's kinda Low 2-C (or 2-B) with infinite multiplier vs 2-A, but the 2-A here has scalling chains which put him few, or dozens times above the baseline + reactive evolution.

Yeah, you could use that analogy to appeal to the site's guidelines. "We have proof that this character can destroy infinite 11-D universes, but this other character only has an infinite multiplier on destroying one 11-D universe, and we don't know if that'd let them destroy infinite 11-D universes, so the former should have higher AP." But I wouldn't put this as an objective slam dunk since there is room for doubt.