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I don't really know anyone who to tag so I just go with the people who's been in my crt before, but if your suspicious I mean you can go to my pfp and check how much I spammed this on other staff but only these people are the one that usually comes, including you which is I'm thankful for.
I brought this material to supplement the explanation in Scan 4. It’s information showing that Heaven is actually in the highest place, and that Miro’s spacetime is in an intermediate place.
So... This isn't really an anti-feat it's more of a statement coming from a human, the extent of a human being able to comprehend higher than the original dimensions of the universe is unlikely as there's already statements in the further volumes that humans cannot perceive higher than the fourth dimension A.K.A the 11th dimension.
"Miro's spacetime sits balanced at a midpoint between Heaven and here. To make it simple, think of it as pressure. In the end, both sides exert equal pressure, pressing down on the maze. But what happens if one side's pressure suddenly vanishes?"
Imagining Gaold's words sent a chill through Shirone.
"Boom. The maze would go to pieces. That's why you can't take the maze out. The moment it builds a dimensional wall, it's trapped there."
"But Heaven's position is different, right?"
"Right. Heaven doesn't care whether the maze lives or dies. They can just smash the dimensional wall and roll in. The crack in Miro's spacetime is a perfect example."
This isn’t just some human opinion. If you look at Scans 1, 2, and 3, you’ll see that even from an angel’s perspective, Miro’s spacetime is described as being located in the middle.
And, following your logic that statements made from a human perspective cannot be trusted, since Mikea Gaold is also human, his claim that the universe is 11-dimensional cannot be trusted either—which means the universe is not 11-dimensional, right?
I’m not saying the universe is not 11-dimensional; I’m simply pointing out that, according to your logic that human statements cannot be trusted, that would be the case.
So this is merely a limitation to perception than an actual anti feat bcs this isn't even a feat in the first place.
Furthermore, they even mentioned how the world would look like in a higher dimensional perspective.
were the case, spacetime curvature changes should've been recorded. They weren't. So spacetime didn't shift. He simply moved across a certain phase coordinate. We just don't know what that phase is."
"Is that even possible? A phase undetectable even to the Multiverse Computational System?"
It wasn't even registered as a bug.
"What if it's a higher dimension?"
The god of the Negative World can perceive the fourth dimension. You seem to misunderstand me as claiming that the god of the Negative World cannot perceive the fourth dimension, but that is not what I mean.
What I mean is that, just as humans cannot perceive dimensions higher than the fourth, the Multiverse Computational System—which corresponds to the god of the Negative World—cannot perceive higher dimensions.
"Is that even possible? A phase undetectable even to the Multiverse Computational System?"
It wasn't even registered as a bug.
"What if it's a higher dimension?"
Please understand the main point of this argument. It’s saying that a phase undetectable by the Multiverse Computational System exists in a higher dimension, right? Just as humans cannot perceive the fourth dimension, the Multiverse Computational System cannot perceive dimensions higher than an 11-dimensional universe.
In other words, a phase that the Multiverse Computational System cannot detect exists in a dimension higher than that of the Multiverse Computational System itself.
your scan is not the same as what's originally written so idk where you get that information from, they don't even refer to the MCS as MCS but More they refer to it as the multiversal computational system and even the scan disagree with you lol
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying that the Multiverse Computational System isn't the god of the negative world?
1.
“God,”
Nane said.
“This is the main system of the Multiversal Computing Engine. From
here, we can sever your world from the Outer World—turning it into a
truly independent universe, free from all control.”
“How?”
“You already know.”
Immortal Function.
By hijacking the core system of the gods and isolating one universe,
independence would be achieved.
2.
“Decryption rate is at 87 percent. I’ll keep it simple. The outer world is likely a civilization called Lagrange, far beyond the singularity. They use a ‘Shared Void’ system to prevent mental aging, and manage balance through a multi-universe processor called ‘God.’ The key component is called ‘Buddha’—a program that forcibly guides humanity into the outer world under specific conditions. They call it Enlightenment...”
3.
“Exactly. But there’s something more important. Look at the last page.
What the Outer World really wants is...”
Fermi flipped to the final page:
Guidelines for Independent Universe Management
1. All multiverses are based on the Public Empty System. Any
universe where humanity reaches a certain level of advancement is
designed to generate a new virtual reality.
2. Each universe is controlled by the Anke Ra Program, and
ultimately overseen by the multiversal computational engine called
‘God.’
3. If the Anke Ra Program is destroyed, the system restores itself by
applying the most optimal variable.
4. If connection with the Outer World is lost, the Anke Ra link
program activates to reopen the channel to the computational
‘God’ between the two worlds.
If you look at Scan 7, the Multiverse Computational System is described as the god of the negative world.
This also implies that the god of the negative world is not 1-A.
After all, to be 1-A, one must not be subordinate to a higher physical dimension.
Just in case you might not believe me, I’ll send you a few examples of the original Korean text.
"신."
나네가 말했다.
다중 우주 연산장치의 메인 시스템이지.
"그런...... 경우가 있나요? 다중 우주 연산장치도 잡아내지 못하는 위상이?"
심지어 버그라고 인식하지도 못했다.
"상위 차원이라면?"
In the original text of Scan 7-1 and Scan 7-2, the same phrase, “다중 우주 연산장치” appears.
According to the original text, the “다중 우주 연산장치” refers to a god.
In other words, this means that the god of the “Negative World” cannot perceive dimensions higher than the 11th dimension.
Of course, its perception is superior to that of humans. Nevertheless, while it is superior to humans, it can be said to be subject to the physical dimension.
The power needed to operate the current universe might not be as large as one thinks.
'That's what scale is.'
The universe is vast to humans, but to the source of supply, it might be no bigger than a palm.
'You could create thousands of universes in the same rank.'
In other words, there is a possibility that outside the universe Shirone lives in, there are similar or entirely different universes.
'And if the world where the source of supply lives also receives power from a higher dimension...'
This is a story about an 11-dimensional universe that exists on a higher plane than Miro's spacetime; it is not a scan related to Miro's spacetime.
When Miro's space-time vanished, the coordinates shifted too.
The old metagate became useless, so Gaold planned to extract new coordinates from the Akashic Record.
A part may change, but the whole remains perfect.
So when Miro's space-time disappeared, new, precise coordinates should have been written in the Akashic Record.
The Disc-an artifact called Geopin's relic-was what could extract those coordinates and feed them into a new metagate.
"How can we change lifespan? Because this place is connected to the Akashic Records."
Canis also knew about the Akashic Records. It was a word he often
encountered while studying mythology.
A supernatural collection of information that is said to contain all
records of the universe.
“Akashic Records aren’t something that grand or magnificent. This world itself is the Akashic Records."
If the Akashic Records represent the entirety of the universe, Satan's law
is its counterpart.
To reiterate, according to Scans 8, 8-2, and 8-3, if the 11-dimensional universe is the “whole,” then “Miro’s spacetime” is merely a part of it.
There is a scan that explicitly states that “Miro’s spacetime” is merely a “part” of the 11-dimensional universe.
Also... it says that the principle behind creating dimensions in Miro's spacetime is called “Void.”
It was translated as “Void” in the English version, but the original text uses the term “공겁.”
"Miro's spacetime is fundamentally a dimension based on the void.
"미로의 시공은 기본적으로 공겁을 기반으로 하는 차원이다."
"Hmph. Naturally, it's to destroy Miro's spacetime. We'll pull her out of the void dimension. Once she regains consciousness and we kill her, Miro's spacetime will vanish."
"흥, 당연히 미로의 시공을 파괴하기 위해서지. 공겁의 차원에서 미로를 끌어낼거야. 정신을 차린 뒤에 죽이면 미로의 시공은 사라진다."
“Miro's Space-Time” operates according to the mechanics of “공겁”
“Miro's Space-Time” operates according to the mechanics of “공겁” and "공겁” is a concept lower than infinity. The infinity referred to here would be High 1-B, I suppose.
One piece of evidence supporting Scan 10 is a statement made by the protagonist, who has become a wizard more skilled than Miro. Please refer to Scan 12
'The void isn't infinite'
Having already grasped Gaia's reasoning, he could understand it without experiencing it.
'Even if you split time endlessly, higher-dimensional time still flows.
'공겁은 무한하지 않아.'
이미 가이아의 사유를 깨달았기에 경험하지 않고서도 이해할 수 있었다.
'끝없이 시간을 쪼갠다고 해도 결국 상위차원의 시간은 흐르기 때문이지.'
"Not forever."
Even if you kept digging through the chronal void, an end exists before the concept of Infinity. The first thing Shirone realized was this:
'Labyrinth Andre's 19,000th world.
The reason the utopia project humans started for immortality failed.
"The chronal-void program Argo couldn't compute Infinity and malfunctioned.
It gave up on reason and began to farm humans.
"Yes, the chronal void cannot beat Infinity"
"영원은 아니에요."
공겁으로 계속 파고든다고 해도 무한의 개념 앞에서는 끝이 존재한다.
시로네가 처음 깨달은 것은.
'미궁 안드레의 제19000번 세계.'
인간이 영생을 위해 시작했던 유토피아 프로제그가 성공하지 못한 이유였다.
'공겁 프로그램 아르고는 무한을 연산하지 못하고 오히려 오작동을 일으켰다.'
사고를 포기하고 인간을 사육하기 시작한 것이다.
"그래, 공겁은 무한을 이길 수 없다."
Furthermore, according to the protagonist—who has become a wizard even more powerful than Miro—“공겁” is not infinite.
He states that the process of creating dimensions using “공겁” is not infinite.
In other words, no matter how you look at it, it cannot be 'High 1-B'.
And, to reiterate, according to your logic that statements made by humans from lower dimensions cannot be trusted, since Mikea gaold is a human living in a dimension lower than the 11th dimension, his statement about an “11-dimensional universe” cannot be trusted—therefore, the universe is not 11-dimensional.
Of course, that’s true according to your logic, but I’m not claiming that the universe isn’t 11-dimensional.
Could the four of you please read this post before evaluating the tier?
To summarize my argument:
1. Since the “god” of the negative world is subject to the physical dimension, the god of the negative world is not 1-A. Humans cannot perceive the fourth dimension, and while “god” can perceive the fourth dimension, there are indirect descriptions indicating that, regardless of this, god is subject to a higher physical dimension.
2. “Miro’s spacetime” creates worlds based on the “공겁” mechanism, but the protagonist—who has become a mage superior to Miro—states that the “공겁” is not infinite. “Infinite” here means “it is not a process of creating dimensions infinitely”; in other words, it is not 'high 1-B'.
3. “Miro’s Space-Time” corresponds to a “portion” of the Akashic Records, which itself corresponds to an 11-dimensional universe; governing 4-dimensional space is equivalent to the difficulty of creating the upper layer where Miro’s Space-Time is located.
4. If we accept the argument that statements made by humans from lower dimensions cannot be trusted, then since Mikea Gaold is a statement made by a human from a lower dimension, it follows that it does not refer to an 11-dimensional universe. Of course, this is strictly based on the other party’s logic and is a discussion premised on that assumption.
This isn’t just some human opinion. If you look at Scans 1, 2, and 3, you’ll see that even from an angel’s perspective, Miro’s spacetime is described as being located in the middle.
And, following your logic that statements made from a human perspective cannot be trusted, since Mikea Gaold is also human, his claim that the universe is 11-dimensional cannot be trusted either—which means the universe is not 11-dimensional, right?
I’m not saying the universe is not 11-dimensional; I’m simply pointing out that, according to your logic that human statements cannot be trusted, that would be the case.
Actually what gaold said that the universe is 11d is bcs it supports the statements that is being made before such as how it follows string theory, but despite that, they're still calling the universe 4 dimensional coordinates which means that the said "4d" isn't really 4d but 11d to begin with
The god of the Negative World can perceive the fourth dimension. You seem to misunderstand me as claiming that the god of the Negative World cannot perceive the fourth dimension, but that is not what I mean.
What I mean is that, just as humans cannot perceive dimensions higher than the fourth, the Multiverse Computational System—which corresponds to the god of the Negative World—cannot perceive higher dimensions.
This is also a wrong assumption bcs the negative world is a world higher than the positive world in which it sees the world as a dream. Also your again presupposing that the entirety of the positive world is the 11th dimension which is again wrong bcs when they changed the primordial universe coordinates, its just changing the coordinates of the planets away from heaven bcs heaven is also just another planet not another universe.
Please understand the main point of this argument. It’s saying that a phase undetectable by the Multiverse Computational System exists in a higher dimension, right? Just as humans cannot perceive the fourth dimension, the Multiverse Computational System cannot perceive dimensions higher than an 11-dimensional universe.
In other words, a phase that the Multiverse Computational System cannot detect exists in a dimension higher than that of the Multiverse Computational System itself.
This is not the main point of your past argument, this is more of an additional added argument bcs your past argument is you disagreeing with High 1-B+ Miro or Low 1-A(which don't apply here since I already changed it to High 1-B+. Furthermore what your doing here is presupposing that the entirety of the positive world is the high 1-C not the individual spot which isn't the proposed tier for the positive world, and the 11 dimensional universe is not talking about the entirety of the positive world, it's merely talking about their own world a.k.a the bubble(spot) universe.
The statements here can't be taken as a literal connection bcs they're talking about being an independent universe, which there's already many worlds(universes) that are independent and by independent, it just means that they would be separated from the Akashic Records. Furthermore the scan literally says "The infinite multiverses in a certain level of civilization, they would generate a new virtual reality" indicating that their world is also just virtual reality from another virtual reality and thus giving it a hierarchy of R>F. The connection is just the the Akashic Records being the "CONNECTION" as it is the way they control the lower reality.
In the original text of Scan 7-1 and Scan 7-2, the same phrase, “multiverse computing device” appears.
According to the original text, the “multiverse computing device” refers to a god.
In other words, this means that the god of the “Negative World” cannot perceive dimensions higher than the 11th dimension.
Of course, its perception is superior to that of humans. Nevertheless, while it is superior to humans, it can be said to be subject to the physical dimension.
This is again a pre-assumption as there's never as statement about the entirety of the positive world being 11d instead the statement refers to only the higher dimension in the perspective of the outer world which can mean several things, either way it doesn't really contradicts 1-A bcs 1-A also has a layers of it's own so having another layer of reality higher than the negative world isn't really a contradiction.
Huh? This is about what you disagree apon which is the whole nested spacetime cosmology, despite being repeatedly stated on how the higher dimensional space would see the lower dimensional world your still saying about it not bing connected?
This is just wrong, would refer to the entirety of the world not just the world they live in as the Akashic Records controls all worlds not just their world.
"Yes. The mind program, God. Since it is derived from the stellar source of life, humans call it this."
Great Star raised her finger.
"The eternal Ra."
Anke Ra.
"Even so, Anke Ra wouldn't know it is a program. It would only know itself as a being that suddenly awakened in the realm of nothingness. When it defines all concepts subjectively and stores them in the Akashic Records, they are transmitted to all life in the universe through quantum transmission. That's why Nane called this world Anke Ra's dream."
“Exactly. But there’s something more important. Look at the last page.
What the Outer World really wants is…”
Fermi flipped to the final page:
Guidelines for Independent Universe Management
1. All multiverses are based on the Public Empty System. Any
universe where humanity reaches a certain level of advancement is
designed to generate a new virtual reality.
2. Each universe is controlled by the Anke Ra Program, and
ultimately overseen by the multiversal computational engine called ‘God.’
3. If the Anke Ra Program is destroyed, the system restores itself by
applying the most optimal variable.
4. If connection with the Outer World is lost, the Anke Ra link program activates to reopen the channel to the computational ‘God’ between the two worlds.
And no the "whole" is not the 11 dimensional universe but rather the entirety of the Human World, by saying that, it wouldn't be right bcs their universe is still part of the positive world as the positive world contains all worlds including other worlds which is why there's specific guidelines for how to become an independent universe and not be affected by the outside worlds control via Akashic Records.
Also how would this disprove that the each individual Spots is high 1-C? Doesn't this just proves the fact that spots/universe are high 1-C to begin with.
"Miro's Space-Time” operates according to the mechanics of “공겁” and "공겁” is a concept lower than infinity. The infinity referred to here would be High 1-B, I suppose.
One piece of evidence supporting Scan 10 is a statement made by the protagonist, who has become a wizard more skilled than Miro. Please refer to Scan 12
Why would infinity be high 1-B? This is just referring to the alpha and Omega, infinity/infinite being alpha while vod is omega... In which means beginning and ending, which the statement of "emptyness isn't infinity" would make much more sense as it is the opposite of it, so if Miro's space is created by that then that would mean her dimensional space is the end of all dimensions making it High 1-B+ to Low 1-A
Of course, for Shirone to reach that memory, he would have to absorb
far more of Omega.
‘Emptiness is not infinite.’
Because he had already understood Gaia’s line of thought, he could
comprehend it without experiencing it directly.
‘No matter how endlessly you divide time, time from a higher dimension
still flows.’
Suddenly, he recalled the horrific experience of entering the 19,000th
world in Andre’s Labyrinth.
All humans had lost their reason, writhing like insects in narrow tunnels,
barely surviving.
Perhaps that was humanity’s final destination under the Eternal Life Program.
‘The Eternal Life Program cannot be eternal.’
That was why Goffin had sought to break the cycle of reincarnation and leaped into a higher dimensions.
“Miro's Space-Time” operates according to the mechanics of “공겁” and "공겁” is a concept lower than infinity. The infinity referred to here would be High 1-B, I suppose.
One piece of evidence supporting Scan 10 is a statement made by the protagonist, who has become a wizard more skilled than Miro. Please refer to Scan 12
Bruh this just proved what I said, the void is not true infinity but can be lower infinity, simply put "Lower dimensional space is finite to higher dimensional being and thus despite it being infinite it would still be a lower infinity" this is still High 1-B
And, to reiterate, according to your logic that statements made by humans from lower dimensions cannot be trusted, since Mikea gaold is a human living in a dimension lower than the 11th dimension, his statement about an “11-dimensional universe” cannot be trusted—therefore, the universe is not 11-dimensional.
Of course, that’s true according to your logic, but I’m not claiming that the universe isn’t 11-dimensional.
You can only be trusted if the saud person is either knowledgeable enough to know the height of their own world, plus the statements about 11d supported by Many evidence so it does count, it wouldn't count if you rely on 1-2 statement alone because a statement can't disprove a feat. Furthermore the statement he made that the universe is 11d is more of a correction on how they state it, so basically if they call the universe 4d it would be referring to the 11 dimensional universe.
2. Miro's space is created by the Omega A.K.A emptiness which is opposite to infinity and thus the statement of it being "Infinite≠Emptiness" would make a lot more sense. And thus would still be High 1-B as it is the end of the lower world.
3. Miro's space was able to hold the matrix of spacetime which is an endlessly nesting spacetime while seeing each button layer as a spot or a 0 dimensional points. Furthermore the universe in question is not just Shirone's world but all worlds itself and there's already worlds that have been freed from the Akashic Records and thus a single spot would remain High 1-C and the positive world as a whole is High 1-B as well as Miro's space. In therefore her space being depicted as 4d by the beings who lived within it is unreliable as even the 11 dimensional universe is getting called 4d.
4. The statements can only be trusted if the said statement is falsifying it's true dimensionality by thus calling a 11 dimensional universe 4d is really unreliable, the spot is the one being referred to here and High 1-B+ for both Miro's space and positive world still applies aswell as 1-A for negative world
Actually what gaold said that the universe is 11d is bcs it supports the statements that is being made before such as how it follows string theory, but despite that, they're still calling the universe 4 dimensional coordinates which means that the said "4d" isn't really 4d but 11d to begin with
If we look at it that way, I could also argue that the lines spoken by the human characters in the novel are used to support the perspectives of certain angels living in heaven. Since some angels wield the power that governs the beginning of the 11-dimensional universe, they must be different from humans in lower dimensions.
This is also a wrong assumption bcs the negative world is a world higher than the positive world in which it sees the world as a dream. Also your again presupposing that the entirety of the positive world is the 11th dimension which is again wrong bcs when they changed the primordial universe coordinates, its just changing the coordinates of the planets away from heaven bcs heaven is also just another planet not another universe.
Whether the negative world is higher or lower than the positive world isn’t really that important. Ultimately, what matters is that the god of the negative world cannot perceive a phase that exists in a higher dimension, and this implies that there is a physical dimension higher than the negative world.
were the case, spacetime curvature changes should've been recorded. They weren't. So spacetime didn't shift. He simply moved across a certain phase coordinate. We just don't know what that phase is."
"Is that even possible? A phase undetectable even to the Multiverse Computational System?"
This is not the main point of your past argument, this is more of an additional added argument bcs your past argument is you disagreeing with High 1-B+ Miro or Low 1-A(which don't apply here since I already changed it to High 1-B+. Furthermore what your doing here is presupposing that the entirety of the positive world is the high 1-C not the individual spot which isn't the proposed tier for the positive world, and the 11 dimensional universe is not talking about the entirety of the positive world, it's merely talking about their own world a.k.a the bubble(spot) universe.
Since my previous statement may have been somewhat misleading, let me clarify: I do not view the “positive world” as synonymous with the 11-dimensional universe; rather, I view the “positive world” as a world that contains an infinite number of 11-dimensional universes.
Please understand the main point of this argument. It’s saying that a phase undetectable by the Multiverse Computational System exists in a higher dimension, right? Just as humans cannot perceive the fourth dimension, the Multiverse Computational System cannot perceive dimensions higher than an 11-dimensional universe.
In other words, a phase that the Multiverse Computational System cannot detect exists in a dimension higher than that of the Multiverse Computational System itself.
Also, the reason I made this claim was to point out—separate from the discussion about the world of Miro—that the god of the negative world is subordinate to the physical dimension.
The discussion about the world of Miro was covered in other materials.
The statements here can't be taken as a literal connection bcs they're talking about being an independent universe, which there's already many worlds(universes) that are independent and by independent, it just means that they would be separated from the Akashic Records. Furthermore the scan literally says "The infinite multiverses in a certain level of civilization, they would generate a new virtual reality" indicating that their world is also just virtual reality from another virtual reality and thus giving it a hierarchy of R>F. The connection is just the the Akashic Records being the "CONNECTION" as it is the way they control the lower reality.
2. Each universe is controlled by the Anke Ra Program, and
ultimately overseen by the multiversal computational engine called
‘God.’
4. If connection with the Outer World is lost, the Anke Ra link
program activates to reopen the channel to the computational
‘God’ between the two worlds.
were the case, spacetime curvature changes should've been recorded. They weren't. So spacetime didn't shift. He simply moved across a certain phase coordinate. We just don't know what that phase is."
"Is that even possible? A phase undetectable even to the Multiverse Computational System?"
I don't understand how you arrived at that conclusion. The Akashic Records are not the same as MCS.
According to Scan 2, each universe is managed by the Anke Ra Program.
MCS is a “god” located in the negative realm, and such gods cannot detect “phases.”
This is again a pre-assumption as there's never as statement about the entirety of the positive world being 11d instead the statement refers to only the higher dimension in the perspective of the outer world which can mean several things, either way it doesn't really contradicts 1-A bcs 1-A also has a layers of it's own so having another layer of reality higher than the negative world isn't really a contradiction.
When we say that 1-A has a “layer,” it refers to a case where it is not a physical dimension; if there were a physical dimension higher than the negative world, it could not be 1-A.
I am saying that the higher dimension of the negative world is a physical dimension, and I argue that it is a physical dimension because the term “higher-dimensional bulk” appears in another episode.
And no the "whole" is not the 11 dimensional universe but rather the entirety of the Human World, by saying that, it wouldn't be right bcs their universe is still part of the positive world as the positive world contains all worlds including other worlds which is why there's specific guidelines for how to become an independent universe and not be affected by the outside worlds control via Akashic Records.
Also how would this disprove that the each individual Spots is high 1-C? Doesn't this just proves the fact that spots/universe are high 1-C to begin with.
Why would infinity be high 1-B? This is just referring to the alpha and Omega, infinity/infinite being alpha while vod is omega... In which means beginning and ending, which the statement of "emptyness isn't infinity" would make much more sense as it is the opposite of it, so if Miro's space is created by that then that would mean her dimensional space is the end of all dimensions making it High 1-B+ to Low 1-A
Bruh this just proved what I said, the void is not true infinity but can be lower infinity, simply put "Lower dimensional space is finite to higher dimensional being and thus despite it being infinite it would still be a lower infinity" this is still High 1-B
You can only be trusted if the saud person is either knowledgeable enough to know the height of their own world, plus the statements about 11d supported by Many evidence so it does count, it wouldn't count if you rely on 1-2 statement alone because a statement can't disprove a feat. Furthermore the statement he made that the universe is 11d is more of a correction on how they state it, so basically if they call the universe 4d it would be referring to the 11 dimensional universe.
If we look at it that way, I could also argue that the lines spoken by the human characters in the novel are used to support the perspectives of certain angels living in heaven. Since some angels wield the power that governs the beginning of the 11-dimensional universe, they must be different from humans in lower dimensions.
How so when they're all statements with no feats? Furthermore the statement he made is more of a correction to how much dimensions the universe they live in actually have.
Whether the negative world is higher or lower than the positive world isn’t really that important. Ultimately, what matters is that the god of the negative world cannot perceive a phase that exists in a higher dimension, and this implies that there is a physical dimension higher than the negative world.
No this just means there's a higher layer of reality in the negative world, I already gave my summary did you not read it? Higher dimensional space doesn't always refer to as dimensional space but rather more like higher level of existence.
Since my previous statement may have been somewhat misleading, let me clarify: I do not view the “positive world” as synonymous with the 11-dimensional universe; rather, I view the “positive world” as a world that contains an infinite number of 11-dimensional universes
That's not really what your saying earlier as you said that the Akashic Records is just 1 single 11 dimensional universe, well... If that's the case then their world is the only thing in control by the Akashic Records and not the other world outside their world, and I already gave my summary again the positive world doesn't just contain infinite 11 dimensional universes it contains a countless if not infinite infinitely nested bubbles(Spots) of universes.
Also, the reason I made this claim was to point out—separate from the discussion about the world of Miro—that the god of the negative world is subordinate to the physical dimension.
The discussion about the world of Miro was covered in other materials.
Actually what your saying here is more of an assumption bcs your evidence is also an assumption.
were the case, spacetime curvature changes should've been recorded. They weren't. So spacetime didn't shift. He simply moved across a certain phase coordinate. We just don't know what that phase is."
"Is that even possible? A phase undetectable even to the Multiverse Computational System?"
It's literally a question and and assumption so you can't take it as literally, plus I in my summary I literally have my own interpretation asto how dimensions work, they don't work the same way you think of a regular dimensional space bcs one don't need to be enlightened, freed from the cycle of reincarnation, and ASCEND cuz a higher dimensional space for us is just quantitatively superior to our regular universe and should still world the same way but no, the negative world is literally stated to have different laws, causality and time, not only that but they also have omniscience as all gods knows the past present or future.
I don't understand why there is no evidence that MCS cannot perceive beyond the fourth dimension.
“Is that even possible? A phase undetectable even to the Multiverse
Computational System?”
It wasn’t even registered as a bug.
“What if it’s a higher dimension?”
I’ve said many times, based on the scan above, that humans aren’t the only ones who can’t perceive dimensions.
It seems humans cannot perceive the fourth dimension, and the multiverse computing system cannot perceive dimensions higher than the eleventh.
“Wait. There’s no trace of coordinate movement. Why wasn’t this
flagged as a bug?”
“Because it wasn’t a bug.”
“Sir?”
Zad explained.
“At first, I thought it was a wormhole. A breach in space. But if that were the case, spacetime curvature changes should’ve been recorded. They weren’t. So spacetime didn’t shift. He simply moved across a certain phase coordinate. We just don’t know what that phase is.”
“Is that even possible? A phase undetectable even to the Multiverse
Computational System?”
Huh... Why are we strawmaning my args? I clearly stated that follow it up with scans asto why it isn't but I never said MCS and the Akashic Records is the same, what I said is that the Akashic Records is the angle Ra program being stated here and the MCS overseen it all.
I am saying that the higher dimension of the negative world is a physical dimension, and I argue that it is a physical dimension because the term “higher-dimensional bulk” appears in another episode.
How can you say it's purely physical when the statements are vague? Higher dimensional bulk is just another statements for higher dimensions, I already gave my evidence asto why it isn't physical but metaphysical, the higher dimensional space/bulk in the negative world is beyond the concept of life and death, so how can you say it's physical when regular dimensions can't even surpass death?
Yea there is, but that would just be taken as their own way of saying "the Akashic Records is the entirety of the world" bcs as farr as I know, that statement was taken before they even know of the outer world, plus the statements in the second to the last volume already confirmed it's not just their world is being controlled but every world.
I already did but since you asked, so I'll do so...
Guidelines for Independent Universe Management
1. All multiverses are based on the Public Empty System. Any
universe where humanity reaches a certain level of advancement is
designed to generate a new virtual reality.
2. Each universe is controlled by the Anke Ra Program, and
ultimately overseen by the multiversal computational engine called
‘God.’
3. If the Anke Ra Program is destroyed, the system restores itself by applying the most optimal variable.
4. If connection with the Outer World is lost, the Anke Ra link program activates to reopen the channel to the computational ‘God’ between the two worlds.
1. every Multiverses is determined to create a new virtual reality similar to how Ra created the world as a dream.
And
2. Everything is controlled by Ra's program.
This means everything in the positive world is controlled by Ra's program and is ultimately overseen my god(mcs)
But from what I know, the meaning of program is a structured sequence of coded instructions that tells a computer or system exactly how to perform a specific task. It basically serves as a digital recipe, processing provided inputs through defined logical steps to generate a specific output. So what's the Akashic Records then? The Akashic Records is where Angke Ra subjectively stored the world's defined concepts and everything that is defined is existence to the lower world.
"Yes. The mind program, God. Since it is derived from the stellar source of life, humans call it this."
Great Star raised her finger.
"The eternal Ra."
Anke Ra.
"Even so, Anke Ra wouldn't know it is a program. It would only know itself as a being that suddenly awakened in the realm of nothingness. When it defines all concepts subjectively and stores them in the Akashic Records, they are transmitted to all life in the universe through quantum transmission. That's why Nane called this world Anke Ra's dream."
If it governs just only one 11 dimensional universe, then why would the guideline say that everything is controlled Angke Ra's program a.k.a the Akashic Records?
How would that makes sense? A spot is just another way of saying a bubble universe, did we not see the manhwa chapter 90 that Miro was holding a spacetime but it's in a form of a bubble?
The previous crt is just so that Miro's pfp can be accepted, the spot is 4d by default bcs that's what a regular spacetime is and doesn't need further context to prove it's 4d, but this time, this crt would be to establish the actual cosmology of the verse, and this I clearly stated in the cosmology blog page is that each singular spot would follow the M-Theory and it's even confirmed that the world where Shirone lived in is 11d. Furthermore Miro also stated that the world Shirone lived in is just one of the spots that exist so I still don't see your argument disproving anything.
No, what I mean is void is omega while infinite is alpha the end and beginning of everything, that's what's it generally means, so the statements of "VOID≠INFINITE" would make a lot more sense.
It's more of infinite dimensions than infinity itself, I mean there's already multiple statements of the being true, the fact that each universes is a multiverse of it's own and is an infinitely nested bubbles (spots) of universes
Yea but the past statements already said that the 4 dimensional coordinates they keep talking about is 11 dimensions so it wouldn't make sense if you say that 4d would be 4d with statements in the further volumes bcs it's already been corrected and is also supported by other feats and statements, while you brought up everything that is pure statements about fourth dimension which I can just say it automatically means they're talking about the 11d universe bcs of the reasons I said before...
Here's why Miro's space is High 1-B+/High 1-B
This is just to summarize my arguments so that you can better understand where I'm coming from.
So basically a spot or bubble universes are individually 11 dimensional, but this is bcs we are not counting the dimensions it is nested with, basically it is just the default dimensionality of a single point. But the thing is, each of these bubble universes are infinitely nested, so again It is 1 world within another and sees the lower world as 0 dimensional points, but why would that be in any relation to this? It's bcs Miro's space is also just part of the hierarchy as she described her space as "another spot" so in turn there's still a higher world above her. "but doesn't that mean her space is the limit of the hierarchy below hers?" No it's not bcs there's still an infinite dimensional hierarchy below hers so it doesn't really debunk her space being High 1-B since high 1-B is just having infinite hierarchy of dimensions and it doesn't specify whether the dimensions should go up or down, but since her space still fits the definition it would still be high 1-B.
Basically her space is just like the infinitely nested bubbles of universes but in a case her space is just part of this nested bubbles instead of the bubble itself. So yea in conclusion high 1-B Miro's space, High 1-B+ Positive world, High 1-C spots but individually without counting the nested. High 1-B for nested bubbles of universes and everything that is above it all the negative world which sees it as a dream is 1-A. Now the 1-A comes from not just bcs it sees the positive world as a dream, it's bcs they're treated as a lesser world or a virtual reality, not only that but Jervis the first creation of Ra is also stated to be the first fictional being to exist.
High 1-C is fine. High 1-B+ is also fine.
I disagree with Low 1-A. There's no implication of it containing every mathematically possible construct physically or transcending dimensions by size.
The abilities proposed seems fine. I'm a bit iffy about 1-A. I would like to ask something I noticed in the scans; how do characters go 'outside' the dream from the inside?
High 1-C is fine. High 1-B+ is also fine.
I disagree with Low 1-A. There's no implication of it containing every mathematically possible construct physically or transcending dimensions by size.
The abilities proposed seems fine. I'm a bit iffy about 1-A. I would like to ask something I noticed in the scans; how do characters go 'outside' the dream from the inside?
High 1-C is fine. High 1-B+ is also fine.
I disagree with Low 1-A. There's no implication of it containing every mathematically possible construct physically or transcending dimensions by size.
The abilities proposed seems fine. I'm a bit iffy about 1-A. I would like to ask something I noticed in the scans; how do characters go 'outside' the dream from the inside?
High 1-C is fine.
High 1-B+ is also fine.
I disagree with Low 1-A. There's no implication of it containing every mathematically possible construct physically or transcending dimensions by size.
The abilities proposed seems fine. I'm a bit iffy about 1-A. I would like to ask something I noticed in the scans; how do characters go 'outside' the dream from the inside?
This should be fine. It specifically says they are guided by "Buddha" (higher being) and the wording saying they "awaken" in the afterworld implies they were always there in some sense to begin with.
This should be fine. It specifically says they are guided by "Buddha" (higher being) and the wording saying they "awaken" in the afterworld implies they were always there in some sense to begin with.
@ActuallySpaceMan42 (Agree's with High 1-C spots and 1-A negative world but is skeptical about Low 1-A positive world and would agree with High 1-B+ positive world "Proof")
Then i think it'd be better to put the entire discussion to make it clear you used the same arguments etc. (I'm not saying you're not trustworthy, no offense )
Then i think it'd be better to put the entire discussion to make it clear you used the same arguments etc. (I'm not saying you're not trustworthy, no offense )
Bro it's in the blog, I linked it on him like he said "link the crt" which I did. Why would I ss the whole discussion , I mean I tagged him in the agreement category so he would know otherwise if I used a different argument
Then i think it'd be better to put the entire discussion to make it clear you used the same arguments etc. (I'm not saying you're not trustworthy, no offense )
Well... If you say it that way then the solution is that when someone Agree's privately, they will obviously be tagged in the OP so if the op used a different argument, then they can just come here and tell them that it's not what they agreed apun
Then i think it'd be better to put the entire discussion to make it clear you used the same arguments etc. (I'm not saying you're not trustworthy, no offense )
I am not certian as I do not see the convlusion evidence for the tier like it how encompassed all dimensional spaces or transcend dimensions. High 1-B+ for Positive World works, though.
I am not certian as I do not see the convlusion evidence for the tier like it how encompassed all dimensional spaces or transcend dimensions. High 1-B+ for Positive World works, though.
I am not certian as I do not see the convlusion evidence for the tier like it how encompassed all dimensional spaces or transcend dimensions. High 1-B+ for Positive World works, though.
I am not certian as I do not see the convlusion evidence for the tier like it how encompassed all dimensional spaces or transcend dimensions. High 1-B+ for Positive World works, though.
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