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Wiki Vandalism Reports

Jinx666 said:
Its fine to bolden stats like Stamina and Intelligence
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Yes, you are right. It is not only fine but good.
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as well as replace them with the actual terms listed on the page instead of 'High'.
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Yes, the only possible issue I see is the stat given. Gifted isn't automatically assumed by that explanation. Above Average would be solid.
Jinx666 said:
Additional Limbs is a power i actively added on the wiki and wasn't present for years so Adding it in self-evident cases for pages that were made before its existence/publisher didn't know it exists is (should be) fine. Or at least a non-issue thats only being brought up because they want to continue drama.
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I agree this is self-evident and would support it, but rules are rules.
Jinx666 said:
If you need a CRT to tell you that a dude has a separate limb when thats literally shown on the very same picture then we're beyond hope
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I myself want to add or change things on some pages that are self-evident, and I need to make a thread for it. In fact I'm literally waiting for the self-evident revisions forum before doing it. This includes adding Bodily Weaponry to an entity that has a prominent huge set of claws.
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Tbf i didnt know 'Several Meters' was an actual range term so you can change that one back. Obviously i'm not changing things out of spite/bias
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This one is minor but still needs to be discussed in some capacity.

I'm actually more concerned about changing infinite stamina to only possibly infinite, a clear stat change.
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I dont get why we're so lenient giving things Infinite stamina just cause theyre not conventional humans/machines either. (Machines still typically need charging or a power source that can vary, they just dont operate on the same sustenance model as an organic being)

I didnt even change the stat in this instant, I added a possibly and then fixed the spelling. Cause the wiki is apparently fine with faulty unbacked information as relevant as infinite stamina on a published page, but not when you add a quick word that doesnt even change the stat?
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This sort of thing still needs a thread. Changing it to possibly is a stat change.
 
Gifted should be fine if the explanation alongside at least has the stuff to support it from 'Very High', and if its focused in one field but w/e i dont recall changing anything beyond that

'Infininite' to 'Possibly Infinite' is not a stat change and more just adding a bit of skepticism to a blantantly unbacked and clearly false claim out of nowhere. I genuinely dont get why we're defending blatant skeptical misinfo over this and making people have to make a CRT to even add a 'possibly'

I've been saying this for days now, but the CRT process on stuff like this is just blatantly a form of exhausting regular members. We genuinely dont have to be this strict about it, its only serving to make everyones lives difficult (staff members dont need to waste the time approving stuff like this)
 
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MSahla said:
Just want to clarify, they're not stalking your edits whatsoever. They're patrolling, as they monitor all pages. Anyone can be reported for vandalism.
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Literally second time in a week they're literally tattle-tailing over minor issues. Can they report actual vandalism please?
 
Jinx666 said:
Literally second time in a week they're literally tattle-tailing over minor issues. Can they report actual vandalism please?
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They did. The fact that you changed the Stamina from Legit to only Possibly is already a thing. That's something that still requires a CRT to change because you're changing the way something works.
 
MSahla said:
They did. The fact that you changed the Stamina from Legit to only Possibly is already a thing. That's something that still requires a CRT to change because you're changing the way something works.
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No, im literally not lmao.

Why are we giving Infinite stats for free without any suitable explanation and being just okay with it. Then force people to go through a tedious thread that can take years to pass just to change it? This is actually so useless to even be talking abt
 
Jinx666 said:
Gifted should be fine if the explanation alongside at least has the stuff to support it from 'Very High', and if its focused in one field but w/e i dont recall changing anything beyond that
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I can see the argument, but estimating lower is often safer. To tell you the truth, if this was the only thing reported I'd say it's not an issue. I just think Above Average would be safer.
Jinx666 said:
'Infininite' to 'Possibly Infinite' is not a stat change and more just adding a bit of skepticism to a blantantly unbacked and clearly false claim out of nowhere. I genuinely dont get why we're defending blatant skeptical misinfo over this and making people have to make a CRT to even add a 'possibly'
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Changing a definite to a possible is a stat change, Jinx. Even if only an implied one. We can't just add a sceptical note or possibly to any stats we see and disagree with.
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I've been saying this for days now, but the CRT process on stuff like this is just blatantly a form of exhausting regular members over stuff like this.
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No, it isn't. It's a process of peer review to prevent edits that shouldn't be made. If someone wants a solid infinite stamina back, should they do what you did and edit it back, thus starting an edit war, or should they start a CRT, thus meaning they have to follow the rules and you don't? This would apply in reverse as well. We can't have either of these things happening.
 
Jinx666 said:
No, im literally not lmao.
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Why are we lying?

Jinx666 said:
Why are we giving Infinite stats for free without any suitable explanation and being just okay with it. Then force people to go through a tedious thread that can take years to pass just to change it?
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Holy unnecessary exagerration. That's only a minor CRT that even 1 approval from mod is probably enough.
 
Random-Helper323 said:
Changing a definite to a possible is a stat change, Jinx. Even if only an implied one. We can't just add a sceptical note or possibly to any stats we see and disagree with.
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The 'Possibly' isnt a stat. The 'Infininite' is, and it's a huge assumption to make and just be okay with. Im not making a CRT on a page idk or gaf about just to try and keep some sensible standards.
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No, it isn't. It's a process of peer review to prevent edits that shouldn't be made. If someone wants a solid infinite stamina back, should they do what you did and edit it back, this starting an edit war, or should they start a CRT, this meaning they have to follow the rules and you don't? This would apply in reverse as well. We can't have either of these things happening.
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It definitely is passively. Its obviously not the intention.

I know why CRTs exist, I know why they're needed. But the fact people are trying to push for a CRT on every single minor edit that people dont gaf about beyond it technically being against the rules is definitely exhausting. And if i dont waste my time and energy trying to push for a thread that changes someone so minor as adding 1 word to a thread, this absolute useless conversation has to happen.

It's borderline weaponising having to go through a tedious system over something not even worth it, which only serves to frustrate people and hinder progress. Not saying its intentional but it's something people need to be aware of
MSahla said:
Why are we lying?
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Your standards on what a stat are =/= me 'lying'.
MSahla said:
Holy unnecessary exagerration. That's only a minor CRT that even 1 approval from mod is probably enough.
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We dont need a 'minor CRT' in the first place, and in my (im guessing much longer) experience on this wiki, it can take years to push through minor self-evident changes, no matter how many pages of bumps or staff pings occur. Im not wasting my time, but obviously the unnecessary whistleblowing over a possibly is more important to you all
 
Jinx666 said:
Your standards on what a stat are =/= me 'lying'.
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We dont need a 'minor CRT' in the first place, and in my (im guessing much longer) experience on this wiki, it can take years to push through minor self-evident changes, no matter how many pages of bumps or staff pings occur. Im not wasting my time, but obviously the unnecessary whistleblowing over a possibly is more important to you all
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Buddy, this isn't your wiki to follow your every whim. If you're unhappy with the rules, good luck trying to change them by creating a Staff Discussion. If you don't and continue to do the same thing, then you'll have to accept that you'll be reported to this thread. And if you consistently do, you'll end up getting banned. I'm just telling you and being nice here.
 
MSahla said:
Buddy, this isn't your wiki to follow your every whim. If you're unhappy with the rules, good luck trying to change them by creating a Staff Discussion. If you don't and continue to do the same thing, then you'll have to accept that you'll be reported to this thread. And if you consistently do, you'll end up getting banned. I'm just telling you and being nice here.
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I mean this whole response here just kinda ties it all

"Buddy, this isn't your wiki to follow your every whim." Strawmanning. If i have any sort of issue with the current way of things, its because im mad things don't 'follow' to my whim as opposed to people just trying to cause problems over literally nothing.
"good luck trying to change them by creating a Staff Discussion" - weaponising the process and lack of equal power in actually making change here. Exactly why this CRT stuff is an exhaustive process and how to weaponise it by making you feel the need to lose morale with how long and unnecessary it gets on minor stuff llike this. 'good luck'
"And if you consistently do, you'll end up getting banned." threats over literally nothing. Go report actual vandalism
"I'm just telling you and being nice here." you really aren't, idk you 😭

People are fr just so against efficiency or helping to clean the thousands of insufficient profiles the wiki forces itself to keep. You're vandalising if you do otherwise apparently. But i've gotta waste time making an entire CRT to add a word (not even a stat change) on something as crazy as claiming a character has infinite stamina without sufficient explanation that people are fine with allowing otherwise.
Why dont we save making CRTs for the actual big changes, like tiers, verse overhauls, calculation usage etc? Things actually worth discussing
 
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Jinx666 said:
The 'Possibly' isnt a stat. The 'Infininite' is, and it's a huge assumption to make and just be okay with. Im not making a CRT on a page idk or gaf about just to try and keep some sensible standards.
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It is still a change in stat, even if only implied. These are the standards. We can't change stats without threads. I myself am preparing to work on a thread for adding Weapon Mastery to a character who's stated to have trained with a sword for thousands of hours and has killed thousands with a sword in a war, a thread to add bodily weaponry to an entity with claws larger than butcher knives... Heck, I did that to add Bodily Weaponry to the shark from Jaws and to Pokemon that have giant teeth and an attack called bite. This is how stats are managed.
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I know why CRTs exist, I know why they're needed. But the fact people are trying to push for a CRT on every single minor edit that people dont gaf about beyond it technically being against the rules is definitely exhausting. And if i dont waste my time and energy trying to push for a thread that changes someone so minor as adding 1 word to a thread, this absolute useless conversation has to happen.
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Jinx, come on. I don't want to be arguing with you any more than you want to be doing so with me. I also don't like having to do the things I described above. We have to stick to standards or the structure the Wiki runs on stops working.
 
I do not know why this is at all a debate. A Possibly conveys completely different information from a full rating and that does need to be discussed on a CRT. Until we change our rules to allow for minor changes, Jinx has broken them.

I've half a mind to push for an edit ban with how often this has happened.
 
Planck69 said:
I do not know why this is at all a debate. A Possibly conveys completely different information from a full rating and that does need to be discussed on a CRT. Until we change our rules to allow for minor changes, Jinx has broken them.
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I must agree.
Planck69 said:
I've half a mind to push for an edit ban with how often this has happened.
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I don't think this is necessary, and most of Jinx's edits are good. I do understand the issue though.
 
Random-Helper323 said:
It is still a change in stat, even if only implied. These are the standards. We can't change stats without threads. I myself am preparing to work on a thread for adding Weapon Mastery to a character who's stated to have trained with a sword for thousands of hours and has killed thousands with a sword in a war, a thread to add bodily weaponry to an entity with claws larger than butcher knives... Heck, I did that to add Bodily Weaponry to the shark from Jaws and to Pokemon that have giant teeth and an attack called bite. This is how stats are managed.
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I mean thats your standards then i think its a misplaced and misuse of time for something so harmless and self-evident. Feels more like you know how self-explanatory things are, but are just being complacent. You're also a member of staff, so you have better ways of connecting and obtaining the 'votes' you need while standard members have to scrape through and wait for up-to-years

I personally havent got that same time or complacency to be wasting on adding one word to a page idc about (but still think the wiki in general needs a better outlook). I also work on much faster efficiency
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Jinx, come on. I don't want to be arguing with you any more than you want to be doing so with me. I also don't like having to do the things I described above. We have to stick to standards or the structure the Wiki runs on stops working.
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Well we dont have to, but your complacency of it isn't going to sway me. This is huge dampening on progress and reports like this are just akin to whisteblowing/tattletailing over nothing (when theres literal vandalism that actually happens). That causes just as much interpersonal issues. This wiki should be setting the standards for the entire powerscaling community, at least when it comes to its formatting

This doesnt stop the wiki from working whatsoever, thats a hugely overblown take on it. I understand theres a pipeline of what people could then list as 'self-evident', but the wiki itself hasnt bothered to outline what actually warrants needing a CRT on in the main site, and obvious chnages and cleaning up badly formatted aspects of pages, that dont mess with stats (no, no matter how much adding a Possibly affects it) aren't going to be that trigger.
Theres far more compromises and meeting in the middle that can be done beyond how strict stuff like this is. Only needing 1 staff member for a basic CRT of an obscure verse is fine, but that should still focus more on significant changes such as tiers. Verses also dont need the same level of leniency on a lot of stuff like this

We dont gotta continue the convo from here on but im getting rly bored of being tattle-tailed on for the most harmless of edits just because i didnt write entire paragraphs on them and had to wait a minimum of a week. Id also probably have to write hundreds.
 
Planck69 said:
I do not know why this is at all a debate. A Possibly conveys completely different information from a full rating and that does need to be discussed on a CRT. Until we change our rules to allow for minor changes, Jinx has broken them.
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The 'information' hasn't even been approved of or supported in the first place. The character has literally just been given infinite stamina for free. It doesnt change anything regardless and I havent even added any less alternative.

Its a crazy standard for anything the page starts off with getting published needing to be changed as opposed to having to make entire CRTs solely dependent on staff members to change.
Planck69 said:
I've half a mind to push for an edit ban with how often this has happened.
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Hardly necessary. People are more mad about this than actual vandalism that goes on the site.
I've got other things im doing, this would just be a blatant overreaction.
 
Planck69 said:
The issue isn't in the edits themselves but the abrasive and dismissive attitude to us being consistent in rule application. We don't have CRT requirements because we unironically think every edit made will be vandalizing. But so we can actually have reviewed abdaccepted additions for all our pages.
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And thats a huge issue in itself personally, but me disagreeing with that and warranting threats of a ban of any sort just because im annoyed at how bad this wiki is at efficiency (which there are already countless threads on) isn't exactly fair. I dont need a colour on my name to call that out

If you want things to be clear to the regular members of the wiki on what needs a CRT and what doesnt, those should still be stated somewhere on the official wiki. Similar to literally any official policy ever. Cause people clearly get confused.
If this is literally only about me adding a Possibly when i think the main issue here is how loose and allowed people are giving things Infinite stats, then I don't think its right at all. It doesnt change the stat itself, the stat isnt based on anything significant etc, so whats the issue pretending this is something huge. This isnt an example of a reviewed and accepted addition properly, cause the page was just allowed to be published like that.
 
Jinx666 said:
I mean thats your standards then i think its a misplaced and misuse of time for something so harmless and self-evident. Feels more like you know how self-explanatory things are, but are just being complacent.
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Those are the rules and standards of the Wiki. We can't just limbo under them.
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This wiki should be setting the standards for the entire powerscaling community, at least when it comes to its formatting
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The Wiki only keeps its standards by following the rules.
 
Planck69 said:
Yeah, we can wax poetic about how it should be all day. This is about our standards as they are.
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And how they're gonna be forever the way I see it. Theres no hope for change on this stance if people are feeling the need to enforce edit bans over underbaked pages. When exactly is this self-evident edit subforum happening?

I genuinely wouldn't consider adding a 'Possibly' to a stat (not changing the actual stat) being an actual stat change personally , especially when its
A) For something on the scale of 'Infinite', even for a stat like Stamina.
B) Weak reasoning beforehand on an underdeveloped page, thats clearly had no overseeing.
If you want this to be made clear, then it needs to be officially written somewhere that this is how the wiki accepts things as. Otherwise i dont see how you can blame me for my confusion or ban me over it when the wiki has failed to make it clear. It might be a no-brainer for you but I have no basis to know all this, nor have been informed in whatever staff members are trained on.

The other instances I think i'm well within my rights. Theres no point in having a section for Feats that dont...go over any feats, let alone reference them. And I've already made and went through the CRT process to add an ability to the wiki, and even years later im continuing to maintain it and integrate it into the wiki since tons of eligible pages couldnt when they were published, and people arent sufficiently aware of such. I could 'link the CRT' that i did all that on, but its been years since the fact and I still don't think we need to open a useless convo on whether a character with four arms...has four arms.
 
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And how they're gonna be forever the way I see it. Theres no hope for change on this stance if people are feeling the need to enforce edit bans over underbaked pages. When exactly is this self-evident edit subforum happening?

I genuinely wouldn't consider adding a 'Possibly' to a stat (not changing the actual stat) being an actual stat change personally , especially when its
A) For something on the scale of 'Infinite', even for a s
B) Weak reasoning beforehand on an underdeveloped page, thats clearly had no overseeing.
If you want this to be made clear, then it needs to be officially written somewhere that this is how the wiki accepts things as. Otherwise i dont see how you can blame me for my confusion or ban me over it when the wiki has failed to make it clear.

The other instances I think i'm well within my rights. Theres no point in having a section for Feats that dont...go over any feats, let alone reference them. And I've already made and went through the CRT process to add an ability to the wiki, and even years later im continuing to maintain it and integrate it into the wiki since tons of eligible pages couldnt when they were published, and people arent sufficiently aware of such. I could 'link the CRT' that i did all that on, but its been years since the fact and I still don't think we need to open a useless convo on whether a character with four arms...has four arms.
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The wiki makes it clear in the fact that;
A. You need a CRT for any statistic change.
B. Possibly Infinite isn't Infinite and thus a statistics change.

This is being wilfully obtuse at this point. You are not supposed to do that, period. There's no leeway we have or "well, why not" attitude here, and hiding behind "well, it's minor" doesn't change that.
 
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And how they're gonna be forever the way I see it. Theres no hope for change on this stance if people are feeling the need to enforce edit bans over underbaked pages. When exactly is this self-evident edit subforum happening?

I genuinely wouldn't consider adding a 'Possibly' to a stat (not changing the actual stat) being an actual stat change personally , especially when its
A) For something on the scale of 'Infinite', even for a stat like Stamina.
B) Weak reasoning beforehand on an underdeveloped page, thats clearly had no overseeing.
If you want this to be made clear, then it needs to be officially written somewhere that this is how the wiki accepts things as. Otherwise i dont see how you can blame me for my confusion or ban me over it when the wiki has failed to make it clear. It might be a no-brainer for you but I have no basis to know all this, nor have been informed in whatever staff members are trained on.

The other instances I think i'm well within my rights. Theres no point in having a section for Feats that dont...go over any feats, let alone reference them. And I've already made and went through the CRT process to add an ability to the wiki, and even years later im continuing to maintain it and integrate it into the wiki since tons of eligible pages couldnt when they were published, and people arent sufficiently aware of such. I could 'link the CRT' that i did all that on, but its been years since the fact and I still don't think we need to open a useless convo on whether a character with four arms...has four arms.
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This case falls under "minor and self evident revisions", of which our guidelines are:
Instances of minor revisions may include changes to one or two characters, if it is just the addition of simple abilities that do not fall into the categories of Acausality (except type 1), Conceptual Manipulation, Abstract Existence, Plot Manipulation, Information Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Nonexistent Physiology, Law Manipulation, etc. or otherwise could be considered particularly controversial or noteworthy.
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For minor revisions and self-evident revisions of small and/or non-controversial verses, it is sufficient to seek the approval of one staff member with evaluation rights.
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There has been precedent where @Antvasima has accepted such revisions on this thread. So please, in the future, just ask right here to make sure. Stop being so unnecessarily combative about this.
 
Planck69 said:
The wiki makes it clear in the fact that;
A. You need a CRT for any statistic change.
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Yes, and like I said I was blatantly confused on how this counted as a statistic change. I still dont agree btw, cause im not actually changing 'the stat', just (rightfully) adding skepticism since it clearly hasnt been fact-checked, however to say it makes it clear just isn't something you can claim for the masses. Imo the wiki needs an overhaul on its presentation in regards to all that, and days ago i suggested this in the improvements thread that this stuff needed to be on reference.

The wiki doesnt make that aspect clear whatsoever, or at least I haven't seen. You would need to describe that adding terms like 'Likely' or 'Possibly' also counts as a statistic change, not just adding the boldened stats (and even then one is far more serious than the other). Or you can link me to where thats already been stated.
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This is being wilfully obtuse at this point. You are not supposed to do that, period. There's no leeway we have or "well, why not" attitude here, and hiding behind "well, it's minor" doesn't change that.
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Theres nothing willful about it, It just hasnt been made clear to that extent. I can tell you for a fact I didn't think that would land me in the hotseat. I think people should discuss their standards for Infinite stats for pages like this if anything,
 
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There has been precedent where @Antvasima has accepted such revisions on this thread. So please, in the future, just ask right here to make sure. Stop being so unnecessarily combative about this.
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Im only combative because this all feels like such an unnecessary obstacle for edits like this. Especially when theres so many pages still outdated from all this today, and still wrongfully doing things.

It gets to the point where people are merely tattle-tailing, which I view as stirring up, because who exactly has a literal problem with me adding an additional arms ability to a character who clearly has more than two arms? Why do mods even need to know exactly? Otherwise they're misunderstandings (and leadings to more relevant questions)

Its frustrating for regular members who dont have the time, means or energy to have to go through this process over something the wiki is neglecting itself on these pages. 🤷‍♂️
Either way this can be done now.
 
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I think that all of Jinx's linked edits above seem like perfectly acceptable cleanup work, except for that Frankenstein's infinite stamina rating had no valid basis whatsoever, and as such should have been changed to "Unknown" instead of "Possibly Infinite", and that it would have been much preferable to ask about Beta Ray Bill's intelligence rating. We have a specific thread for that.

For the record, creating planet-destroying weaponry should warrant "At least Genius" in intelligence. 🙏
 
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I think that all of Jinx's linked edits above seem like perfectly acceptable cleanup work, except for that Frankenstein's infinite stamina rating had no valid basis whatsoever, and as such should have been changed to "Unknown" instead of "Possibly Infinite", and that it would have been much preferable to ask about Beta Ray Bill's intelligence rating. We have a specific thread for that.
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Tbf i would have loved to put Unknown but then I considered thats an actual stat change so I didn't.

I can definitely do that in the future, I just figured since the page didnt have an Intelligence value in the first place that i'd put it on. Wasnt exactly changing a stat in that regard either and was playing by ear, much like what most people do when deciding intelligence rating on page publish.
 
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I think that all of Jinx's linked edits above seem like perfectly acceptable cleanup work
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I don’t think you’re handling this the right way. Jinx is constantly breaking the wiki rules, and you’re brushing it off as if it’s no big deal. Jinx needs to do what everyone else does and create a CRT for these situations; otherwise, people will feel wronged and start doing the same, since you’ll later come and say it’s fine. On top of that, she always starts an argument here, acting as if people are persecuting her when they report her for breaking rules. Jinx could at least reach out to someone from the team before making these changes.

It’s worth noting that your comment only encourages Jinx to keep breaking the rules, because she knows nothing will happen, as in the end the most important person in the wiki will just let it slide.
 
Demon_Lord18 said:
I don’t think you’re handling this the right way. Jinx is constantly breaking the wiki rules, and you’re brushing it off as if it’s no big deal. Jinx needs to do what everyone else does and create a CRT for these situations; otherwise, people will feel wronged and start doing the same, since you’ll later come and say it’s fine. On top of that, she always starts an argument here, acting as if people are persecuting her when they report her for breaking rules. Jinx could at least reach out to someone from the team before making these changes.
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Idk who you are or how you know certain things abt me but its not a big deal...at all. and look whose instantly liking it, transparent af

Yeah i do think the reasons i get reported are petty since its not like these are any major or unagreeable changes. Part of what frustrates me is people like you trying to make it a mountain out of a molehill, especially when these cases are either misunderstandings or just...literally self evident (how are you deadass gonna go against giving a character with an extra arm in their main picture, additional arms?). Only thing I did wrong here by standards was accidentally changing a Ranged stat (not that deep), and adding a Possibly to a stat i didnt change despite it being ridiculous (then made a CRT like you keep harping on about to get it fixed). Again, not that deep. One of those comes down to a blatant misuunderstanding because the wiki hasn't detailed it.

Let me know when I make an actual harmful edit
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It’s worth noting that your comment only encourages Jinx to keep breaking the rules, because she knows nothing will happen, as in the end the most important person in the wiki will just let it slide.
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If Ant says its acceptable clean-up work (even if he didn't then It wouldn't affect my stances, cause it is and theres 0% ill intention here) then i dont necessarily know what you're proposing happens instead? I'm allowed to fight my case. Sounds more like you're just praying on my downfall.

Dont need to speak like im some dog either. Im perfectly capable of making my own decisions without needing any 'encouragement', im not making these sorts of edits in spite/bias. Its genuinely not srs, and if you feel as if you're cheated over an edit on a page you most likely have never interacted with before, nor have any strong opinions about, then i don't know what to tell you.
 
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I am in agreement with what other staff members have said as well as what Ztes has initially mentioned, the edits themselves may have been fairly good, but there are only so many cases where we can tolerate significant changes without content revision approval. And we do need to start putting a foot down when push comes to shove. There should be content revisions before applying some of the bigger changes. And I do notice some people having concerns for our infinite stamina policy; a lot of people are conflicted on whether or not one character having the ability to restore there stamina repeatedly are actually considered limitless in stamina. But that should be reserved for a staff thread.
 
Demon_Lord18 said:
I don’t think you’re handling this the right way. Jinx is constantly breaking the wiki rules, and you’re brushing it off as if it’s no big deal. Jinx needs to do what everyone else does and create a CRT for these situations; otherwise, people will feel wronged and start doing the same, since you’ll later come and say it’s fine. On top of that, she always starts an argument here, acting as if people are persecuting her when they report her for breaking rules. Jinx could at least reach out to someone from the team before making these changes.

It’s worth noting that your comment only encourages Jinx to keep breaking the rules, because she knows nothing will happen, as in the end the most important person in the wiki will just let it slide.
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DarkDragonMedeus said:
I am in agreement with what other staff members have said as well as what Ztes has initially mentioned, the edits themselves may have been fairly good, but there are only so many cases where we can tolerate significant changes without content revision approval. And we do need to start putting a foot down when push comes to shove. There should be content revisions before applying some of the bigger changes. And I do notice some people having concerns for our infinite stamina policy; a lot of people are conflicted on whether or not one character having the ability to restore there stamina repeatedly are actually considered limitless in stamina. But that should be reserved for a staff thread.
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This seems very reasonable. My apologies for mismanaging this situation.

Jinx, I know that you have good intentions, but please tone down this type of your wiki editing to pure cleanup work only, such as bolding statistics and correcting spelling errors, as otherwise our staff will unfortunately likely have to apply a punishment for you.

I hope that these sort of problems will be much more easily handled after we add a new self-evident content revisions sub-forum. Then you can create your own ongoing single thread there for these types of edits, and staff members with evaluation rights can continuously give you a thumbs up or a thumbs down for them. 🙏
 
Id hardly call these significant changes, and like i blatantly said I had 0 idea people suddenly treated adding a 'Possibly' to changing a stat. If you dont want people to be confused by this, it needs to be stated somewhere on the wiki for prior reference otherwise its going to be confusing. This should all be stated on the wiki/

Literally none of these revisions are 'big changes' and people seem to purposefully blow it out of proportion because I give a little push back

But yeah, from now on i'll be limiting it, though no doubt ill have my every move watched and blown out of proportion the second its something they dont like. I hope this self-evident thread works and i do truly get active approval because people are clearly jumping at any opportunity. Needing to wait for blatant self-evident edits is so needlessly difficult and restrictive.
 
2 pages of arguring cause you vandalized got caught, and disagree with how the site functions at its core. Make a thread or take it to a wall. Why are we still clogging this thread and entertaining this nonsense. You are the one giving pushback no one else, playing the victim here sure is somthing. This could have all been avoided with a "my bad wont happen again"
 
Ebihara said:
2 pages of arguring cause you vandalized got caught, and disagree with how the site functions at its core. Make a thread or take it to a wall. Why are we still clogging this thread and entertaining this nonsense. You are the one giving pushback no one else, playing the victim here sure is somthing. This could have all been avoided with a "my bad wont happen again"
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Literally just saying things here??? I can think of plenty of ways this could have been avoided in general but w/e atp, any reason. I'm done here if you all are
 
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