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Lavos is 6D just that the profile is outdatedWhy is Lavos even listed in the ranking in the first place?? His tier is Low 1-C, not 1-C. I think things here are starting to get out of control.
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Lavos is 6D just that the profile is outdatedWhy is Lavos even listed in the ranking in the first place?? His tier is Low 1-C, not 1-C. I think things here are starting to get out of control.
They probably can yeah, they have way more layers in the High Godly Regen negation to be able to negate it. The profile though doesn't like off what she and can't regen from through the High Godly in the proper format though from what I'm reading it would be like "High Godly; Plot". This doesn't save her from being erased on a conceptually or information based level given there is nothing on the profile I see that lists Arale coming back after being erased on those levels. Even if she could she doesn't resist the massive layering XB guys have to negate it anywho.Just saying arale has HGR plot based plus her accausality type 3 and whole exiting out of plot shenenigans with layer plot haxs is still viable
Can xenoblade characters deal with her plot based HGR?
Idm about the rankings, I was just called here and I saw misinformation about XB characters losing due to layers which would be not the case ever since they got their layers back. If ya wanna put them in the same tier due to the speed gap making it incon then that's fine.Hm I feel like they’re above DBH then. My Knowledge on DBH is rather limited so someone like Vietthai would probably have better answers than me. But going off what I do know, there’s a massive difference in speed. Xenoblade having infinite speed while CC and DBH characters have immeasurable speed scaling to two temporal axes’. But yeah XB having resistance to resistance negation does hurt T.P users since it’s one of a few ways of disregarding layering difference. Same with speed. DBH characters do have immeasurable speed scaling to two temporal axes’ while XB has infinite speed, so they could probably force an inconclusive assuming we’re doing speed unequalised.
I think a versus thread needs to be made since there’s a lot of things to mention. Would that be okay with you?
5-D currently.Where do Kingdom Hearts chars scale to?
That would be fine I’ll do that shortly. Also what you said about the interaction stuff, what did you mean by that? Do they have 40 layers of conceptual AE or? Also I think for the sake of avoiding hyperinflation and disorganised messy lists we should stick to 3 representatives of each verse. What representatives would you like to use? Like who are the pinnacle of the verse?Idm about the rankings, I was just called here and I saw misinformation about XB characters losing due to layers which would be not the case ever since they got their layers back. If ya wanna put them in the same tier due to the speed gap making it incon then that's fine.
All already accepted to 6D.
She has multiple version of herself in the multiverse each carrying the information about the previous version and can replace the other or perform countermeasures based on the previous version so one of her version can just exit the plot use her plot haxs or eeThey probably can yeah, they have way more layers in the High Godly Regen negation to be able to negate it. The profile though doesn't like off what she and can't regen from through the High Godly in the proper format though from what I'm reading it would be like "High Godly; Plot". This doesn't save her from being erased on a conceptually or information based level given there is nothing on the profile I see that lists Arale coming back after being erased on those levels. Even if she could she doesn't resist the massive layering XB guys have to negate it anywho.
Does she have a way to get around getting looked at and having everything she has nulled + sealed alongside being dropped to a 10-B level of power? Or any of the passive hax like Death manip?
She has multiple version of herself in the multiverse each carrying the information about the previous version and can replace the other or perform countermeasures based on the previous version so one of her version can just exit the plot and use plot haxs or eeThey probably can yeah, they have way more layers in the High Godly Regen negation to be able to negate it. The profile though doesn't like off what she and can't regen from through the High Godly in the proper format though from what I'm reading it would be like "High Godly; Plot". This doesn't save her from being erased on a conceptually or information based level given there is nothing on the profile I see that lists Arale coming back after being erased on those levels. Even if she could she doesn't resist the massive layering XB guys have to negate it anywho.
Does she have a way to get around getting looked at and having everything she has nulled + sealed alongside being dropped to a 10-B level of power? Or any of the passive hax like Death manip?
We should probably wait for a supporter with decently fair knowledge to give their input before doing anything. I could give their profile a brief read and judge but I would rather wait. Last I heard, KH had 28 layers? I’m not sure if that remained or was removedAll already accepted to 6D.
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IIRC Spawn lost to CC Goku twice, the second loss being not too long ago. I’m not really familiar with their Kit but if I had to guess maybe in the 4-6 ranges? We probably need to do a match with Spawn and Kuro. I’m tempted to say 3 but Lavos and Nasu are outdated, Nasu also has high layers.Then while we wait for KH supps, where would Spawn scale here?
So nothing that'll save her given XB characters have the ability to see this coming through precog or other such abilities and will just erase every version of her. Or even just getting passively haxxed the moment they show up.She has multiple version of herself in the multiverse each carrying the information about the previous version and can replace the other or perform countermeasures based on the previous version so one of her version can just exit the plot use t plot haxs or ee
Her profile does not indicate this is immediate and that it takes time. It will be nullified long before she has the ability to do it. Plus they don't really need to for the Madness Hax. The hax itself gives nothing that allows it to work on beings who's minds reside in information, are just concepts or just have the ability to purify their own mind. Even if they didn't, they have Reactive Evolution to give themselves one given that is an application to it.She also has passive plot haxs that can form the plot of the story in a way that she would be victorious also can they reduce stats of someone who has ap for infinite 1C structures?also arale has madness type 3 haxs do they have resistance to that?
Basically Ether Concentration makes so Ether based beings become impossible to be interacted with unless you match their own ether concentration (which in this case in the layering). Arale is the only DB guy here who can actually get around it since it doesn't cover plot hax but when that gets nulled then she doesn't have anything to interact with XB characters.Also wdym by harder to interact here
Where was 18 Layers accepted? Do you have a link to the thread?Just saying arale has HGR plot based plus her accausality type 3 and whole exiting out of plot shenenigans with layer plot haxs is still viable
Can xenoblade characters deal with her plot based HGR?
Also arale has like 18 layers of plot based stuff
Also using that vs match thread is a bit meh since when I talked about it with Micah in private she told me she could have made many arguments for arale winning but didn't have the energy to do so
Like i said one of them would just simply get outside of plot itself to a space which needs plot based npi to interact with her also how many constructs does XB scale in 1C not to mention there are infinite number of them present across different timelinesSo nothing that'll save her given XB characters have the ability to see this coming through precog or other such abilities and will just erase every version of her. Or even just getting passively haxxed the moment they show up.
As indicated in the profile her later keys she has passive plot manip claiming they can nullify a plot based ability which they haven't really shown to do it is a very strechy claimHer profile does not indicate this is immediate and that it takes time. It will be nullified long before she has the ability to do it. Plus they don't really need to for the Madness Hax. The hax itself gives nothing that allows it to work on beings who's minds reside in information, are just concepts or just have the ability to purify their own mind. Even if they didn't, they have Reactive Evolution to give themselves one given that is an application to it.
Hmm fair enoughBasically Ether Concentration makes so Ether based beings become impossible to be interacted with unless you match their own ether concentration (which in this case in the layering). Arale is the only DB guy here who can actually get around it since it doesn't cover plot hax but when that gets nulled then she doesn't have anything to interact with XB characters.
I mean it's mentioned in her profile for the layers I need to ask sechmicah for itWhere was 18 Layers accepted? Do you have a link to the thread?
How would they even know to do that in this scenario before getting haxxed to all hell? Plus again, the Xenoblade guys would see this coming and plan around it with the various hax to make not an option. Xenoblade characters can do the same thing to Arale as what Master Unit Amaterasu did and just shut her down.Like i said one of them would just simply get outside of plot itself to a space which needs plot based npi to interact with her also how many constructs does XB scale in 1C not to mention there are infinite number of them present across different timelines
Passive =/= instant. All of her instances of it on her profile do not work instantly, hell they even work against the idea of it being passive as its always done by her taking action.As indicated in the profile her later keys she has passive plot manip
That's just how the ability works, if ya wanna play pull this card I can do it too in asking when has Arale ever shown to be capable of affecting ether with her plot manipulation? Has she ever manipulated the plot of people who don't exist? I can go on with this.claiming they can nullify a plot based ability which they haven't really shown to do it is a very strechy claim
Yeah it would. Assuming that speed unequalised is what's being used even though this list does say Non smurfs + speed equalised/speed equalisedPlus immeasurable speed would preety much make there passive haxs useless
@JoshSSJGod i know I can’t ping you since I’m not staff but I think you forgot to reply to the bolded sectionThat would be fine I’ll do that shortly. Also what you said about the interaction stuff, what did you mean by that? Do they have 40 layers of conceptual AE or? Also I think for the sake of avoiding hyperinflation and disorganised messy lists we should stick to 3 representatives of each verse. What representatives would you like to use? Like who are the pinnacle of the verse?
Ah my apologies. the first two are really easy in Z and Alvis. Last one you can throw around either Alpha or Shulk.@JoshSSJGod i know I can’t ping you since I’m not staff but I think you forgot to reply to the bolded section
I’ll put Characters from Danny Phantom and Danny Phantom himself but I’m not sure what other two characters are considered the top tiers of the verse.I suppose characters from Danny Phantom verse
Where was 18 Layers accepted? Do you have a link to the thread?
Also, where can I find the ether concentration stuff? I tried looking at the profiles you gave me here but for some reason I couldn’t find anything to do with ether concentration. Like the indexing of abilities or anything or even better, does ether have a physiology page?
Pariah Dark (i think) and ClockworkI’ll put Characters from Danny Phantom and Danny Phantom himself but I’m not sure what other two characters are considered the top tiers of the verse.
Its apart of the incorpreality. Alvis and Alpha have it right there for example. Some profiles are a bit outdated so that'll be worked on in the future. As for a ether physiology page, no such page right now as it would be a bit redundant given all it would give is the Incorpreality.Also, where can I find the ether concentration stuff? I tried looking at the profiles you gave me here but for some reason I couldn’t find anything to do with ether concentration. Like the indexing of abilities or anything or even better, does ether have a physiology page?
IIRC @Ss3micah had more arguments for Arale but didn't want to argue them, she’s been vacant for a while and I imagine it’s because of the future Arale upgrades and profile overhaul. I think it definitely needs to be overhauled since it’s apparently missing a few stuff and a few scans I’d imagineArale lost to Amaterasu even with her plot manip
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MCU has also some 6-D characters
Added all 3 but they aren’t in order we probably need to make a thread to dictate the position of all 3.
This verse seems like has many good characters has 6-D, but idk really if they can count in top
Letting you know for some reason your goat is only listed as having CM2
I'm aware dw, that'll be changed due to XBX stuff.Letting you know for some reason your goat is only listed as having CM2
Yeah that's the plan. I've been working on it for some of the profiles for a bit now.Unless that is the norm for his base key, you guys have plans to update the layout to look more like Shulk's page? Little confusing to see some abilities sometimes
It gets insanely wild in the new content.I need to get on X, been slacking
Arale has precog of her own as I have said multiple versions of arale exists simultaneously and are constantly travelling through time and even in speed equalised battle due to there time travel capabilities immeasurable speed character would get to have the first move and as seen in the scan above there are innumerable versions of arale that are constantly time travelling mix it with there precog they would know what XB characters would be upto not to mention they would appear to be frozen to them while time traveling along with there passives which makes arale capable of using her counter measures against them or simply just going to the 4th wall space and using her plot haxsHow would they even know to do that in this scenario before getting haxxed to all hell? Plus again, the Xenoblade guys would see this coming and plan around it with the various hax to make not an option. Xenoblade characters can do the same thing to Arale as what Master Unit Amaterasu did and just shut her down.
I can go on similarly saying has ether ever resisted someone having plot manipulation arale can manipulate timelines and dimensions that are non existent with her plot haxs so I don't know how it would be difficult for her to do soPassive =/= instant. All of her instances of it on her profile do not work instantly, hell they even work against the idea of it being passive as its always done by her taking action.
That's just how the ability works, if ya wanna play pull this card I can do it too in asking when has Arale ever shown to be capable of affecting ether with her plot manipulation? Has she ever manipulated the plot of people who don't exist? I can go on with this.
There is also the fact that a lot of the stuff Arale has done with the plot manip is stuff that the null has worked on before which gives validity to it working at minimum on those abilities.
I beleive op meant speed unequalisedYeah it would. Assuming that speed unequalised is what's being used even though this list does say Non smurfs + speed equalised/speed equalised
Probably lower than Doom.IIRC Spawn lost to CC Goku twice, the second loss being not too long ago. I’m not really familiar with their Kit but if I had to guess maybe in the 4-6 ranges? We probably need to do a match with Spawn and Kuro. I’m tempted to say 3 but Lavos and Nasu are outdated, Nasu also has high layers.
I'm not really a well-versed supporter but I know a little bit about it. The main deal with KH are things like Hearts, Keyblades and the general magic system, with characters like Sora making use of magic like Time Manipulation, Gravity Manipulation as well as Reflect magic. The god tiers right now should be KH3 Sora and Xehanort (Xehanort notably has all the powers in his Young profile as well, including a diverse array of Time hax) with others like Yozora and the Master of Masters being on their level or greater but lacking feats currently.We should probably wait for a supporter with decently fair knowledge to give their input before doing anything.