Hundreds or thousands of clones (Luffy got overwhelmed by like 25 lmao) + AP Gap + Stat boosting via either boil release or nature chakra + Sensing + Better stamina + Gigantic AOE + Time limit on gear 5 that'll leave Luffy defenseless + TSO EE (You're crazy if you think Luffy can rubberize EE lol)
no these are two very different situations. we do not know how far Haki negates resistance? we can actually show Naruto resisting transumation and biological manipulation so he has resistance to Luffy gum gum awakening. I agree that Haki can affect Naruto but he has counters for them. But we are talking about something here that is only shown with devil fruits not normal people resistances
Resistances are resistances. If you resist the effect the cause does not matter. You're putting a **** ton of weight on the cause, and that's a two-way street.
you need to state a reason why or dictator KT will disqualify your vote
You have to include "FRA"
Devil fruit abilities has the same property to anything else that exist in the world... Hence it can also be recreated through science and haki can affect natural flames like the ones created by sanji... It's on the haki page.
Didn't do that versus Kizaru's clones + even if he did against Naruto, Naruto could literally just spawn more
What he gonna do with that?
Ok
Dont think that matters cuz luffy 3times faster and shadow clones hardly even hinder sasuke who's precog & speed isnt near luffy's level.
Cutting attacks do nothing to g5. Kaido's cutting attacks are lethal yet do hardly anything to g5 luffy besides scratch him.
HIs ap gets mogged by luffy's 3-4× accelerated development.
3-4× is huge buddy. With future sight on top of that u crazy. As well as getting faster mid fight¿
Not touching him cuz luffy is faster, sees it coming before it is shot, deflects or stops it from happening. With future sight.
Future sight, stops it before it happens.
Future sight stops it before it happens.
Doesnt genin sasuke have future sight with the sharingan?
Not enough, we still need five more
Is all this mentioned fast enough to even tag someone who is just grtting faster as the fight goes? The second naruto utters a "rasenshuriken" he getting cut off mid way with a haki duraneg to his face.
Doesnt need any other forms. He can use g2 with g5 etc. Use the air around him to bounce off it to increse his speed. Even then hes just getting faster and stronger by the minute.
At that point it will already be too late.
unless you stop with those types of arguments
Voting supression is not gonna work anymore.the ones going against the profiles should have their votes invalidated
The aoe makes it impossible to dodge. Also yeah Naruto resists duraneg down to a cellular level. Goodluck with Luffy trying.
Cool, he got an amp. Naruto got multipleDoesnt need any other forms. He can use g2 with g5 etc. Use the air around him to bounce off it to increse his speed. Even then hes just getting faster and stronger by the minute.
Too late for what? Luffy really doesn't have any effective way to put Naruto down. Substitution would give him a headache pinning him down and any attacks that even actually land, Naruto just heals himself or kurama does that for himAt that point it will already be too late.
future sight is not on naruto's or Sasuke's profile... Non devil fruits is in the haki page which is being argued against that it only works for devil fruits
No cuz I just said injecting requires interacting with external matter. Phasing is different where the external matter is untouched, un-interacted with.
Bro has never heard of abductive reasoning in his life.
That's literally what (advanced) Armament Haki does. It bypasses external matter and harms internal matter like organs and shit, it's why Killer was able to harm Kaido despite the latter's durability vastly surpassing the former's AP.
The set term doesn't help your point because it's not necessarily true or false whether energy transfers count or not. It may count, it may not count; it's case-by-case here and honestly knowing how Armament Haki works, it counts here.
No they really aren't...
We know based on what we've seen from it's effects against devil fruit users...
Ah but here's the thing. By claiming hakis resistance negation is limited to just devil fruit users without any form of backing beyond "lol! We don't know if it works on someone with a different power system" we can now do the same and say we don't know if any of narutos resistance work on things that produce their effects through means that aren't reliant of chakra.
Not if we use your own arguments
Then once again following this logic, TSO's have only been shown to erase things connected to chakra (I.E people that have and/or use chakra for their respective abilities). Show me an instance of TSO's existence erasure working on abilities that don't use chakra otherwise I can now use your own logic to call a NLF.
Dura neg destroying internal organs is different from cellular dura neg. Being attacked on a cellular level not negating his durability doesn't mean that he can endure his internal organs exploding.
Where did luffy get overwhealmed by 25? Last i checked they only left a scratch. Also. This is from someone who is of the same speed and countered with their own observation haki to stay on a lvl playing field. Luffy will be steps ahead of naruto in everything he does cuz nardo will not be capable of going band 4 band with luffy's precog.
Ap gap not even that big. Luffy fought katakuri who basics was superior in every catagory. every clash luffy suffered intense pain, he had better precog yet couldnt land a fatal blow on luffy for 13hrs against. Luffy's stats growth is beyond narutos cuz its hr has 3-4 different accelerated devloments that are passive.
Naruto's sensing is literally basic compared to luffy's.
Luffy has better stamina. In g5 no. Vut as long as he eats he good.
Luffy is 3× faster and can see them before they happen so gigantic aoe doing nun.
Show me him erasing someone from existence.
Gonna erase him from Existence
See u agree that Naruto would outlast him
Only Gaint Luffy speed is higher then Naruto, makes him a bigger
His weakness are cutting and piercing attacks otherwise kIzaru sword would not have cut him., and Saturn would not have tired to stab him with his legs.
Naruto has accelerated development too. He mastered KCM, SMKCM, SIXPATHS SAGE MODE in Onde day in a war arc. and Luffy is still struggling to master Gear 5 staminia issues.
Only in gaint form and Naruto has precog and precog counters and can increase his speed and grow stornger mid fight
beat madaraand he had precognation
beat Sasuke and he has precognation
beat kaguya and she was faster and stronger had precognation.
? No the whole point is that the chakra cloak that prevents energy from phasing into him down to a microscopic level would do same and prevent Haki from entering to do duraneg
I keep seeing this. What exactly is the speed value Luffy scales to that makes him 3 times faster?
No that's not fully abductive reasoning?
Literally though, HST threads are something, huh?At this point it's becoming naruto supporters with valid arguments, arguing against the other naruto supporters
this thread really trying to push those pages
He's gonna be jogging past them, and hit naruto in the head with duranegs. Luffy is still 3× faster buddy. Also like i said ig he wanted to, he can stop naruto before he even picks up a hand sign for shadow clones. With speed + future sight.
How naruto catching someone 3× faster than him?
Rasenshuriken – Durability negation via cellular-level destruction
Can you repost your findings about how Emission haki flows NOT phasing through people.
True but it wouldn't get past his cloak in the first place?
The aura flows outwords from within and then goes through/phases through the real world stuff and then creates a force, it's literally a just created aura that one is manipulating by making it flow instead of concentrating it
pretty sure nobody believes this argument. Come back with better facts. He has no counters to it. Also how much faster was kaguya cuz im pretty sure she was not 2-3 times faster while also passivley increasing in speed.
Only amp naruto has is a boil release and clones. Meanwhile luffy
Duraneg in each one of his attacks. Which also hinders his healing/recovery capabilities
How is subsitution giving someone who can see events happening before they happen a headache? Oh did i and everyone else forget to tell u luffy has future sight?
Heal from what??? Lmfaooo !! When an attack lands his recovery abilities weaken.
Once again the main argument here is that the haki is non physical. A non physical object can easily flow through a physical object without interacting with it.
