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Attack on Titan revision

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As I mentioned in the previous thread, I had a slight problem with the calculations in this verse:

Armin's final transformation
  1. The math in the previous calculations was wrong.
  2. We can see the vapor and transformation from Armin shows that there is also heat, so this feat is more of vaporization than grinding.
Edit: Armin's final transformation

Agree with pulverization: @Mr. Bambu, @TheRustyOne
Agree with vaporization: @TheRustyOne
Use old calc

Eren stops a cannonball
  1. The distance measured from the calculation before has a slight problem
  2. Armin said that he had fired the cannon before he felt the impact and heat of Eren's transformation, so it's impossible for the cannonball to be faster than sound.
Edit: Eren stops a cannonball

Agree (1): @Mr. Bambu, @DMUA
Agree (2):
Use old calc:

Bertolt Colossal Titan Explosion
  1. Walls at the point where the px is measured are on a different axis from where the explosion occurred, which gives us an unrealistically large explosion.
Edit: Bertolt Colossal Titan Explosion

Agree: @Mr. Bambu
Use old calc:
 
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Without having looked through them in detail yet, I'd like to steer your thoughts in the right direction real quick: if these calcs are rejected in post, does that affect the scaling, and if so, what becomes the next best feat without ostensible issues? One could also recalc these, as is preferable in disputes over a calc's legitimacy.
 
Given what we lack in specifics with manga, it seems at least plausible, if not likely, that this is not vapor but rather smoke- this is an explosion, or so the calc reports. Like. There's obviously heat, but the calc doesn't fail at acknowledging that. Another interpretation of the clouds is that the blast seems to have kicked up a shitload of sand/dust (although smoke seems the most likely, given the pluming behavior).

There is an error I note, however, which is that unless this is in a specifically rocky terrain, it shouldn't be using pulverization values for stone outright- it should be using partial values for soil, as well. So the calc is flawed, just not in the way you think it is. So, a recalc could be in order.

Eren stops a cannonball

  1. The distance measured from the calculation before has a slight problem
  2. Armin said that he had fired the cannon before he felt the impact and heat of Eren's transformation, so it's impossible for the cannonball to be faster than sound.
Edit: Eren stops a cannonball
you should really elaborate on what the problem is

The calc isn't telling me much about this, so I need to ask you, regarding the second point: was the cannon being shot at/toward Armin? If that's the case then, yes, I would agree that any speed faster than sound is strictly impossible, although there is something to be said about the heat of the moment maybe distorting the order of events? Either way, at best this gets reduced to a suspicious possibly.

Bertolt Colossal Titan Explosion

  1. Walls at the point where the px is measured are on a different axis from where the explosion occurred, which gives us an unrealistically large explosion.
Edit: Bertolt Colossal Titan Explosion
yeah this one is just obviously ****** up, I have no idea how this passed the smell test. I've commented on the calc that it is obviously incorrect.
 
Given what we lack in specifics with manga, it seems at least plausible, if not likely, that this is not vapor but rather smoke- this is an explosion, or so the calc reports. Like. There's obviously heat, but the calc doesn't fail at acknowledging that. Another interpretation of the clouds is that the blast seems to have kicked up a shitload of sand/dust (although smoke seems the most likely, given the pluming behavior).

There is an error I note, however, which is that unless this is in a specifically rocky terrain, it shouldn't be using pulverization values for stone outright- it should be using partial values for soil, as well. So the calc is flawed, just not in the way you think it is. So, a recalc could be in order.
I edited and added options.
The calc isn't telling me much about this, so I need to ask you, regarding the second point: was the cannon being shot at/toward Armin? If that's the case then, yes, I would agree that any speed faster than sound is strictly impossible, although there is something to be said about the heat of the moment maybe distorting the order of events? Either way, at best this gets reduced to a suspicious possibly.
Yes, Armin is in that area too.
 
Without having looked through them in detail yet, I'd like to steer your thoughts in the right direction real quick: if these calcs are rejected in post, does that affect the scaling, and if so, what becomes the next best feat without ostensible issues? One could also recalc these, as is preferable in disputes over a calc's legitimacy.
This definitely affects scaling since these calculations are the ones used to scale most characters in the verse.
 
I agree that the cannonball calc's result is literally impossible, given the explicit statement that Armin heard it first. I'll check on the recalcs later.
 
  • Eren Stopping a Cannonball Calc: I can see that DMUA evaluated the math, at least, and I confirm that the thought process behind it is suitable. So this calc is fine to use- specifically Method 1.
  • Armin's Transformation Calc: I've posted on the calc, I feel it right to acknowledge that without specific details, this is plausibly just smoke, not vapor- thus befitting a typical explosion. So I favor the pulverization side of things. I don't have an issue with using your version of the calc over the old one, however, for the marginally improved math and thought process.
  • Reiner Tanking an Explosion Calc: I've commented on the blog itself.
 
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