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okay so just to get this conversation going again, we have everything we need I think so what are we going to change/add in the CRT?
 
Just finished it without spoilers, we got outright Rel~FTL stuff for the Super forms scale to half 5-B it takes 10 minutes for the energy shadow gives to power up the cannon so ig just divide that 5-B value by 600
Movie Super forms already scale to trillions FTL lol.
 
Honestly it could just be straight up 5-b for base tbh. Seemed more like the raygun needed time to properly “digest” shadows rather then it not nesscerly being adequate enough. Especially considering the black hole fight might just be more impressive.
 
Honestly it could just be straight up 5-b for base tbh. Seemed more like the raygun needed time to properly “digest” shadows rather then it not nesscerly being adequate enough. Especially considering the black hole fight might just be more impressive.
Two super forms struggled to hold off the laser so it's somewhat nebulous
 
It's been three movies and a show and Sonic is already stronger than 70% of the MCU. I'm not even saying that to throw shade either it's just legitimately surprising that movie Sonic is so oddly overpowered.
 
Honestly it could just be straight up 5-b for base tbh. Seemed more like the raygun needed time to properly “digest” shadows rather then it not nesscerly being adequate enough. Especially considering the black hole fight might just be more impressive.
Its impossible for them to be outright 5-B when it took 2 Supers to hold back the 5-B beam so they are inherently low 5-B.

And yeah he already provided the energy to it but unless we divide it by the number of steps it took him to buildup the 5-B then the timeframe of 10 minutes is the best we got
 
Its impossible for them to be outright 5-B when it took 2 Supers to hold back the 5-B beam so they are inherently low 5-B.

And yeah he already provided the energy to it but unless we divide it by the number of steps it took him to buildup the 5-B then the timeframe of 10 minutes is the best we got
Eh,maybe. If I remember correctly the radius of the blast(when it was supposed to blow up earth) was gonna be like 6 times(or something like that) bigger then earth so that blast should be like 5-a actually.

And depending on that black hole feat who knows what there base will be.
 
Eh,maybe. If I remember correctly the radius of the blast(when it was supposed to blow up earth) was gonna be like 6 times(or something like that) bigger then earth so that blast should be like 5-a actually
They never said that they just said it blow up earth and them from space so they'd all die.

And depending on that black hole feat who knows what there base will be.
Im just confused on why we're trying to scale this from shadow when it was that tech he dropped, Eggman even attributed it to Gerald and it was intended to insta kill them so I don't see why they would scale
 
They never said that they just said it blow up earth and them from space so they'd all die.
Nah I’m pretty sure Gerald gave out a number for the radius of the explosion. I’ll have to try and see if I get some screenshots or something
Im just confused on why we're trying to scale this from shadow when it was that tech he dropped, Eggman even attributed it to Gerald and it was intended to insta kill them so I don't see why they would scale
Cuz shadow powered it.
 
Nah I’m pretty sure Gerald gave out a number for the radius of the explosion. I’ll have to try and see if I get some screenshots or something
The number he gave was the circumference of earth (24,901 miles but I think he rounded it 25 thousand) after which he follows by saying it'd reduce the planet to rubble
Cuz shadow powered it
Are we sure about this, I watched it and saw nothing to imply it was shadow who explicitly powered it, he activated it yes but powered? When does he feed it energy?
 
The number he gave was the circumference of earth (24,901 miles but I think he rounded it 25 thousand) after which he follows by saying it'd reduce the planet to rubble
Hmm, thought it was radius
Are we sure about this, I watched it and saw nothing to imply it was shadow who explicitly powered it, he activated it yes but powered? When does he feed it energy?
He grabbed it and charged it with chaos energy like he did his bike.
 
Alright sadly I haven’t found any captions for stuff but he did say it wipes out everything in a 25,000 mile radius
LMFAO WAIT SEND THE CLIP if he really said RADIUS of the destruction we're cooking, i didn't remember him saying radius. I believe you but if so we are fine
 

I thought I had a method to use that would work but it seems after trying it several different ways I can't find a good way to account for this larger radius so yeah for now just sticking with Baseline 5-B Eclipse Cannon and Low 5-B+ Supers with 5-C Base
 
I thought I had a method to use that would work but it seems after trying it several different ways I can't find a good way to account for this larger radius so yeah for now just sticking with Baseline 5-B Eclipse Cannon and Low 5-B+ Supers with 5-C Base
Can't we just say it's 5-a cuz the radius of the explosion would exceed that of uranus and neptune or something?
 
So just to make sure since my memory is failing me a bit (I literally just watched the film this afternoon too lol), do Sonic and Knuckles scale to Shadow? As far as I can remember they can’t really do anything to Shadow the whole movie and keep getting casually knocked out by him.
 
I assume Shadow is going to be subjected to Winter Soldier syndrome later on (aka "When the boss becomes a playable character") and lose his superiority to Sonic/Knuckles, but until then I guess he's just the verse's god tier lol


Shadow: I am confused, why are we talking about Knuckles
 
So just to make sure since my memory is failing me a bit (I literally just watched the film this afternoon too lol), do Sonic and Knuckles scale to Shadow? As far as I can remember they can’t really do anything to Shadow the whole movie and keep getting casually knocked out by him.
Tbf each tume that happened they weren't taking him as seriously as they could've been
 
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