Ben 10 Ditto, Jurryrigg and Gray Matter CRT

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I thought I'd make a very short Ben 10 low-tier CRT, since there aren't many lengthy discussion topics right now.

Ditto
Ditto is listed as dealing damage to Fistrick in the profile, but all he's doing is restricting his movement. I know LS can add scale to AP, but there's no breaking his bones or anything like that here. It just seems like pulling at his mouth is hurting him. To my knowledge, biting and pulling aren't counted as AP.

Following Lort15's suggestion, we will scale the 11-year-old Ben's Ditto to Eon's. So we'll write High 5-A, at most 4-B. It won't be the same as the 10-year-old key where he takes damage from a regular human.

We'll divide it into 3 keys: Classic | 11-year-old | Omniverse

Jurryrigg
He should be promoted to 4-B for breaking the iron bars that Rath couldn't.
He destroyed these robots that could fight Rook and Max.

Grey Matter
We can add this accepted calc to Grey Matter's profile.

 

[Lort15]

I thought I'd make a very short Ben 10 low-tier CRT, since there aren't many lengthy discussion topics right now.

Ditto
Ditto is listed as dealing damage to Fistrick in the profile, but all he's doing is restricting his movement. I know LS can add scale to AP, but there's no breaking his bones or anything like that here. It just seems like pulling at his mouth is hurting him. To my knowledge, biting and pulling aren't counted as AP.

Grey Matter
We can add this accepted calc to Grey Matter's profile.

we also have flashback Ditto beating up Eon actually you can scale ditto to that

 

[Lort15]

Class P Azmuth when...

https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/c54b7f119dea.mp4

links for Jurryrigg

 

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we also have flashback Ditto beating up Eon actually you can scale ditto to that

Great, then let's change it to High 5-A, at most 4-B.

 

[Lort15]

Great, then let's change it to High 5-A, at most 4-B.

i will give more scans and explanations about Jurryrig, i'm busy rn

 

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[AyOgUyS]

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Oh and yea OP looks gud I agree

 

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[Duedate8898]

Ditto looks fine, Jurryrig I'm unsure of primarily due to his entire ability being that he can dismantle and reassemble technology. I would rather have that noted down as more a form of technology manipulation then giving him outright stats with it. Grey Matter calc looks fine

 

[Lort15]

Ditto looks fine, Jurryrig I'm unsure of primarily due to his entire ability being that he can dismantle and reassemble technology. I would rather have that noted down as more a form of technology manipulation then giving him outright stats with it. Grey Matter calc looks fine

he doesn't actually manipulate technology it's just he does that something physically and with his intelligence, like a repairman

 

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Ditto looks fine, Jurryrig I'm unsure of primarily due to his entire ability being that he can dismantle and reassemble technology. I would rather have that noted down as more a form of technology manipulation then giving him outright stats with it. Grey Matter calc looks fine

So, since Rath's kind of aliens can break through iron bars that other aliens can't, couldn't it be scaled to 4-B?

 

[Duedate8898]

I would argue that his unique ability being that he's able to disassemble and reassemble any technology he encounters, including techno-bio hybrid aliens that points towards this actually being a power. Especially as we note down his small size makes him poor suited for combat. It makes more sense this is an ability possessed by the character then rating it as their AP

 

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[LordGriffin1000]

I agree with the Ditto update and the Gray Matter calc addition but not the Jurryrigg upgrade.

Like Duedate mentioned it's more of an ability. Yes, visually he looked like he broke it but it's clearly not done through strength because he was able to fix it. If he actually broke it, he wouldn't have been able to reconstruct it properly. He more so has the ability to dismantle and reconstruct technology (and make it better). In the clip with the robots, Ben literally shouts "Jurryrigg disassemble!" And starts taking them apart, you can see bolts flying off and they fall apart. It's clear it's simply portrayed as this alien knows how to take apart and resemble technology, heck the bars he dismantled had wires in them so they weren't ordinary bars.

 

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Okay, I'll add all the profiles except Jurryrigg then.

 

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Ditto looks fine

I agree with the Ditto update and the Gray Matter calc addition but not the Jurryrigg upgrade.

While updating Ditto's profile, it occurred to me that I actually thought it was wrong to consider his classic key form as 10-B. Because while he has an anti-feat like taking damage from an ordinary human, he also has two feats far above 10-B. One is the feat from his 11-year-old self that I mentioned in the CRT, and the other is his ability to take damage from Animo's bird and continue fighting, his ability to fight Animo's flies for a while, and even his ability to prevent them from flapping their wings. Instead of dividing it into 3 keys as in my CRT suggestion, could we make it 2 keys as it is now, and rate his classic form only as '''Brown Dwarf level''', '''at most '''Solar System level'''?

In short, can we take the reason for the key being only 10-B as an outlier and put it in the same category as Omniverse flashback? Besides, Ben doesn't really transform into Ditto that much, and I doubt Ditto will become that powerful in just one year.

 

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[LordGriffin1000]

Got the scan for the Animo feats.

 

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Got the scan for the Animo feats.

It tanked the damage from Animo's bird.
Here, it is getting damaged by birds that have the DNA of the Stinkfly.
It prevents the same birds from flapping their wings.
He's beating Animo.

 

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[LordGriffin1000]

It tanked the damage from Animo's bird.
Here, it is getting damaged by birds that have the DNA of the Stinkfly.
It prevents the same birds from flapping their wings.
He's beating Animo.

The first two are Durability feats, the third isn't a feat of AP, he's just strong enough to hold its wings which isn't a feat of AP since its not required to flap with dwarf star/solar system level force. And the last one, they don't harm him physically, they just jump on him and he doesn't even try to free himself.

 

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The first two are Durability feats, the third isn't a feat of AP, he's just strong enough to hold its wings which isn't a feat of AP since its not required to flap with dwarf star/solar system level force. And the last one, they don't harm him physically, they just jump on him and he doesn't even try to free himself.

But the reason it was classified as 10-B was because it took damage from a regular human character named Mr. Beck. So, its AP was being downgraded based on its durability.

 

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