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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

DavidTPPM said:
First of all, again this is meaningless because Itachi got caught off guard by an invisible attack he didn't even know was coming.
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I'm not talking about that ( i agreed with you above)


DavidTPPM said:
Second of all, I don't need to prove your interpretation wrong. You need to prove your interpretation right first. We KNOW sage mode drastically amps your ninjutsu. This is especially true when your interpretation is contradictory.
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show me a statement that says sound based jutsu > natural sound in terms of speed
 
Soulking22334 said:
can you explain this ( I'm not being hostile here)

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Wasn’t this off guard ?
 
Soulking22334 said:
buddy i agree that they got off guard , but you said
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Yes, so prove your personal interpretation/assumption that a genin level fodder has sound jutsu as fast as a high Kage level character. If you can do so I'll even give you a high outerversal+ Naruto statement if you want.

You keep trying to shift the burden of proof on me but you're the one making a claim while I'm simply dismissing it due to the lack of evidence.
 
Sound so intense İTS makes Air tremble
Reminding something that tayuya is using a flute
This Should be enough to make Everyone think that Nature energy based attacks are much more intense than normal attacks let alone chakra specialized ones
Kakashi used lightning style to cut through another lightning style jutsu
Gaaras sand protection is another example Even if we say gaara controls his sand with chakra as sand isnt that durable a single grenade would have destroy that sand Years ago let alone A TBB or Tengai shinsei
 
Soulking22334 said:
I am not making any personal interpretations here, i am judging based on the apparent meaning, and i need evidence from you.
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No, you're assuming an attack from a very weak/slow character is equal in speed to a very strong/fast character with no evidence whatsoever, then expect evidence that they're not.

No matter how much you try to hide it, that is your assumption and unless you can prove your assumption, nobody is required to debunk it.
 
FARLANDER3305 said:
Sound so intense İTS makes Air tremble
Reminding something that tayuya is using a flute
This Should be enough to make Everyone think that Nature energy based attacks are much more intense than normal attacks let alone chakra specialized ones
Kakashi used lightning style to cut through another lightning style jutsu
Gaaras sand protection is another example Even if we say gaara controls his sand with chakra as sand isnt that durable a single grenade would have destroy that sand Years ago let alone A TBB or Tengai shinsei
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does that mean that the Chakra enhanced sound jutsu is faster than natural sound???
 
Soulking22334 said:
ok just show me where did a claim it
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You called Itachi or Ay/kcm1 Naruto being subsonic an inconsistency and asked if it isn't a source of problems.

I told you it's not an inconsistency to begin with unless you assume sound based attacks from low level characters and high level characters are equal.

Then you kept asking me for evidence they're not equal while I kept telling you that's not necessary unless there's evidence confirming they are. You verbatim said
Soulking22334 said:
i need evidence from you.
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If you need evidence that they're not equal you're inherently assuming they are.
 
DavidTPPM said:
assume sound based attacks from low level characters and high level characters are equal.
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What evidence do we have to prove the opposite?



i can't just make assumptions out of thin air. I need information, and you're not providing any.


you don't seem to understand what i'm saying. i'm trying to get some information <i simply want to know the reasons behind your assumption
how can i say low level < high level sound based attacks in terms of speed without knowing why
 
Soulking22334 said:
does that mean that the Chakra enhanced sound jutsu is faster than natural sound???
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Not everytime. Using chakra to simply create intense sound isnt fall into my example but still chakra enhancement is a thing people train to make themselves stronger they transmutate phsical energy to make fire or create a mud wall or Cut through lightning
İTS also a matter of training and chakra control
Plus people in Naruto Didnt learn jutsu immeaditly they work through ages and some decades to use Elements which they know from Nature
İ am just saying they are Supernatural but we are tend to forget that there is natural there too
 
Why this matter when said moment neither sasuke or itachi was paying attetion to jutsu and fall into gj while they were try to break gj they got hit by light ?
 
This has got to be rage bait.
Soulking22334 said:
What evidence do we have to prove the opposite?
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We don't need evidence of the opposite if there's no evidence for the positive to begin with.

If there's no evidence you committed a crime you don't need to prove you didn't commit it.
Soulking22334 said:
i can't just make assumptions out of thin air.
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And yet you are making assumptions out of thin air.
Soulking22334 said:
I need information, and you're not providing any.
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Because I don't need to prove something isn't true if there's no evidence it's true to begin with.
Soulking22334 said:
you don't seem to understand what i'm saying.
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No, you don't understand what you're saying.
Soulking22334 said:
i'm trying to get some information <i simply want to know the reasons behind your assumption
how can i say low level < high level sound based attacks in terms of speed without knowing why
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There's no assumptions from my side.
What I'm saying is a conclusion based on feats.
What you're saying is that there's a contradiction based on your assumptions.
 
Premise 1: Sasuke is faster than Zaku's sound attack.

Premise 2: Sasuke is slower than Kabuto's sound attack.

Conclusion: Kabuto's sound attack > Sasuke > Zaku's sound attack

There's no statement implying sound based techniques are all equally fast therefore there's no contradiction in the conclusion
 
DavidTPPM said:
And yet you are making assumptions out of thin air.
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i am not , i judge based on the apparent meaning ,if i have no statements about jutsu sound > real sound speed i will assume they are same

You need to give me something before i take your word for it.
DavidTPPM said:
What you're saying is that there's a contradiction based on your assumptions.
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why do you bring this when i said and agreed that they got off guard, the discussion is about "is the sound based jutsu faster than natural sound and is the enhance sound jutsu faster than the normal one)
 
NaruRiasUzumaki said:
Didn't Sasuke is immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi because he has his Rinnegan & used his Susanō to block the light by saved Naruto, Sakura and Kakashi. Even BZ stated that The Light isn't able to shining through Susanō and his Rinnegan fight back the Jutsu.

Or Sasuke claim The Rinnegan's Genjutsu can be dispelled by the Rinnegan itself?
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Sasuke wasnt immune to infinity tsukiyomi but he can make his susanoo opaque so light cant penetrate tought its his rinnegans ability because bz directly said his rinnegan can deter this jutsu because the lights coming from inifnity tsukiyomi can penetrate
 
Apollonir.Scale said:
I created a CRT of this 1.5/2 years ago. Back then, my defense wasn't accepted, but I remember Ghost defending it better and getting it accepted. At that time, we were able to get a KCM1 Naruto FTL. Then Damage made a debunked CRT.
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Cant we try again? Because kuramas profiles directly saying it
 
How often is kakashi uses genjutsu?
Does its in his character?
İm willing to make
Buddha(ror)vs kakashi matchup
 
I don't recall him using Genjutsu all that often in the series; most of his fights are against individuals who are resistant to it, so he rarely uses it, if at all. In a cross-verse setting, it's more debatable. He can use it, but if we appeal to his inverse behavior, he usually doesn't.

If you're talking about DMS Kakashi, he violates everyone in that verse, without even needing Genjutsu, who isn't named Adam or Zeus; it's unlikely a good match up can be made between him and anyone from ROR.
 
Soulking22334 said:
I'm not talking about that ( i agreed with you above)
show me a statement that says sound based jutsu > natural sound in terms of speed
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We already have examples of elemental jutsu that surpass their own irl speed.

The most Famous/infamous example being Kirin. Depends on who is enhancing it with their chakra
Deceived3596 said:
I don't recall him using Genjutsu all that often in the series; most of his fights are against individuals who are resistant to it, so he rarely uses it, if at all. In a cross-verse setting, it's more debatable. He can use it, but if we appeal to his inverse behavior, he usually doesn't.

If you're talking about DMS Kakashi, he violates everyone in that verse, without even needing Genjutsu, who isn't named Adam or Zeus; it's unlikely a good match up can be made between him and anyone from ROR.
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use kid obito post rock crush
Soulking22334 said:
no chakra
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Edo get trapped in genjutsu
 
Deceived3596 said:
I don't recall him using Genjutsu all that often in the series; most of his fights are against individuals who are resistant to it, so he rarely uses it, if at all. In a cross-verse setting, it's more debatable. He can use it, but if we appeal to his inverse behavior, he usually doesn't.

If you're talking about DMS Kakashi, he violates everyone in that verse, without even needing Genjutsu, who isn't named Adam or Zeus; it's unlikely a good match up can be made between him and anyone from ROR.
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Not dms kakashi im using 7A version of him with speed equalizition
İts pre warc arc ig
 
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