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Yhwach is incapable of affecting SK's fate > Yhwach absorbs Sk, gets his power > Yhwach upgrades his Almighty > Can use it on himself +1 layer
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Yhwach vs Mio Takamiya|Bleach vs Date A Live
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And you know what that matter has nothing to do with Layered at all
Hellscream
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Blud said resistance to power null
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- Limited Power Nullification (A spirit's Astral Dress nullifies physical damage to an extent; she can also cancel instantaneously any attack she can look at)
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- Information Analysis, Power Nullification &/or Reactive Evolution (When a power enters Yhwach's vision, he can "know" this power. All powers Yhwach "knows" take his side and are rendered powerless before him, incapable of being used against him or harming him. He is capable of making all of Ichibē Hyōsube's abilities useless against him<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yhwach#cite_note-:610-21"><span>[</span>21<span>]</span></a>)
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Dude Mio can resistance Law mainpultion Which can esaliy nullification all Angel by talk
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Yeah that's not Layered Fate
Using power on one's self does not give one a Layer in the slightest even if they resist it, thats just the inherent function of one's power/ability. The only one I can Sort of see is Yhwach having Adyneus' power. But even then that sounds a loot more like Acausality Negation
Using power on one's self does not give one a Layer in the slightest even if they resist it, thats just the inherent function of one's power/ability. The only one I can Sort of see is Yhwach having Adyneus' power. But even then that sounds a loot more like Acausality Negation
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It does give the layer when he absorbed a being that had a more powerful version of the almighty, to the point where he was unaffected by Yhwach's almighty.
there is no sort of "see" he has his power, as he absorbed him.
And we know for a fact that he was capable of seeing Yhwach's future due to Yhwach literally saying it, while Yhwach could not see his.
Literally 1+1 = 2 scenario.
The entirety of his upgrades are described to be due to him absorbing the soul king, he gains more pupils, after absorbing the soul king.
All indications of the almighty upgrade, with the power in the first place coming from the soul king.
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Mio can resist to Conceptual Manipulation Type 3 for Kurumi
As the Origin of Spirit, she has the ability to resist all inverse hax
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Crazy, Yhwach resists CM2 powernull, with the almighty not even being active, having the entirety of his powers removed, and him being turned into an ant conceptually.
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Its just resistance to Conceptual manipulation and nothing more bro
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Genius comment
Peterdenman156
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Can someone explain if Mio has Layered Fate Resistance or any layered hax? How does her power scale in terms of layering based on the current wiki standards?
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Peterdenman156
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So you're voting for Yhwach, then
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Again its not Layered Fate
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A CRT would need to be performed to evaluate this. In any case, since the layers aren't listed in Yhwach's profile, they can't be taken into account, so Mio is resisting the TA.
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Cm3 erasure vs cm2 Powernull
Can someone tell me how cm 3 effects Yhwach here
Can someone tell me how cm 3 effects Yhwach here
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As far as i know Yhwach has no layers other than ESP stuff going on and i searched a little bit about soul stuff but found nothing ?
Can you Guys also link some layered stuff
Can you Guys also link some layered stuff
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Normally it wouldn't as Concept Manip Type 2 is far superior than Type 3.
But we know that Yhwach's Almighty power-null is ofc Fate-Based, as he sees the power in the future and thus nulls it through the Almighty.
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Literal head canon?..
Hellscream
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The profile is severely out of date, hasn't been updated in years, which is why lol
But there should be layers for quite a few abilities.
Not like it matters tho, Yhwach absorbs her and powernulls her entire kit while passively exerting a constant passive pressure on her soul
AlipheeseXIV
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As I've already said in another thread, people need to stop making matchups for Mio, her profile is absurdly outdated and she's missing abilities that would make this fight completely incompatible here, ie, acaus 3 from Kurumi for example. Someone get this closed please, I don't understand why people have been making matchups with her lately when her profile is in such terrible condition
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As far as I know the profile must include a notice stating that it' outdated, otherwise the thread cannot be closed arbitrarily.
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Layered everything, in a layered verse with layered hax that no one wants to investigate nor propose, because is wank
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İf you talk about layered stuff you must link it because i am not seeing any kind of layered stuff
Other than that law manip is busted as hell and she will probably null absorbation with it
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Thanks
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Couldnt agree more
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Hellscream
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Watch bleach, doesn't take much of a genius to realize soul crush is layered.
character a crushes character b, character c is massively stronger than character b and soul crushes character b, insanely hard to gain layers.
the verse has being that are made up of a billion souls compacted into one being lol.
sadly enough im quite lazy to find all the evidence you want, if you know you know.
maybe i'll make a thread or two when the anime is fully released.
Yhwach sees her utilizing her ability before it even happens and powernulls it via understanding how her ability works.
Goodluck creating law manip or whatever in the first place, against a character that can alter his own fate, and attacks through the future.
He touches her, and her power is gone. which is quite easy to do when you have The Almighty.
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I ask myself the exact same question with Yhwach.
AlipheeseXIV
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One look at the page and you can use (what I can only hope) is common sense to blatantly see how outdated it is, the entire verse is outdated, that's literally why there are ongoing CRT's and an entire effort off site to revise the verse. If that really needs to be the case though, then I can just do it myself later
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Can people please stop acting like layers are the end all be all. Yes they are important, but non layered hax can be argued to be of superior potency to non layered or even layered hax resistances because at the end of the "layered" hax is just another method of calculating potency.
On that point I think Yhwach has greater fate manipulation potency than Mio has shown to resist.
Shouldn't really matter tho, as Mio appears to be outdated, this should be closed.
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This has noting to do with layers? Characters C sc character B, because C is stronger, aka just quantitative difference
For layers you need qualitative difference
