AyOgUyS
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Why not something like: "Varies depending on Divinity, Willpower, & Location, High 3-A normally, up to Low 1-A to 1-A at peak"
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Champion of Midgard: The Thor Odinson MegaCRT
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That's a much more elegant and efficient way of putting it. I like it
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AyOgUyS
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Something along the lines of: "In versus threads, the location of the battle should be preferably specified because attacks are more effective against Thor when he's outside of the Nine Realms. Thor subconsciously limits himself on Earth and is stronger in Asgard."?With a Note in the bottom detailing how specific location and willpower would affect the match and the requirement to use both when making one.
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I think this plus clarifying the key used would be enough to make vs threads productive
AyOgUyS
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How does this sound:
"In versus threads, the location of the battle should be preferably specified because attacks are more effective against Thor when he's outside of the Nine Realms. Thor subconsciously limits himself on Earth and is stronger in Asgard. In addition, the key being used should be specified."
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Sweet! I feel like we're making real progress here
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Well... A bit better written perhaps. "Due to Thor's (bla bla bla), it is heavily advised to carefully consider the location, emotional state, and the stakes of the versus thread".
AyOgUyS
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How about:
"Due to Thor's strength and power varying depending on where he is, his emotional state, and the stakes of the battle, it is heavily advised to carefully consider such factors when creating versus threads. Please see this page (link to Thor variability blog) for more information"
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Oooh that's quite nice
MrKerf
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Yes, but it needs to be in line with our other explanations. So it has to be fully explained like Adamantium. "Historically, Thor's power fluctuates... subconsiously holds back... gods are weak when not in their home world... Therefore... versus threads."
AyOgUyS
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How does this sound:
"Historically, Thor's power fluctuates depending on his emotional state and his willpower. He subconsciously holds back often, especially on Earth. Gods are weaker when not in their home world. Therefore, the location of the battle alongside the stakes that may affect Thor's emotions and will should be carefully considered in versus threads."
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I don't like it XD I can't do anything to myself, it just feels sauceless, for the lack of the better term.
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When I get some time to sit down and think today I can hammer out a more prose-appropriate and refined version
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You're welcome! I'm glad that we seem to be making progress as we all figure this out togetherThank you for helping out.
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"Historically, Thor's power fluctuates depending on his emotional state and his willpower. He subconsciously holds back often, especially on Earth. Gods are weaker when not in their home world. Therefore, the location of the battle alongside the stakes that may affect Thor's emotions and will should be carefully considered in versus threads."
To:
"Thor's power depends upon multiple variables, including his own worthiness, emotional state, his story as a god, acceptance of his Asgardian-Elder God heritage, and even the location of the battle, being weaker outside of Asgard or the Nine Realms. In many stories he is frequently depicted as superior but comparable to Herald-level characters like Silver Surfer and Hyperion, but it is not uncommon for Thor to battle Skyfather or Hell Lord-tier opponents and he has multiple feats of shaking all of the Nine Realms with his blows. He also has multiple feats of him harming or otherwise scaling to Yggdrasil, which makes up all that is. His tiering is split to account for how the power level of gods, who are stories and physical manifestations of belief, can fluctuate. This includes Thor's personal belief in himself, which empowered him to the point where in base he defeated M.Y.T.H.O.S., who had previously oneshot his Complete All-Father form." (this would be a note at the bottom of his profile)
Option 1: Varies according to Divinity, Willpower, and Location. High 3-A (placeholder Herald tier) normally, up to Low 1-A or 1-A at peak.
Option 2: Varies according to Divine Willpower and Location. High 3-A (placeholder Herald tier) normally, up to Low 1-A or 1-A at peak.
Option 3: Varies according to Belief, Willpower, and Location. High 3-A (placeholder Herald tier) normally, up to Low 1-A or 1-A at peak.
To:
"Thor's power depends upon multiple variables, including his own worthiness, emotional state, his story as a god, acceptance of his Asgardian-Elder God heritage, and even the location of the battle, being weaker outside of Asgard or the Nine Realms. In many stories he is frequently depicted as superior but comparable to Herald-level characters like Silver Surfer and Hyperion, but it is not uncommon for Thor to battle Skyfather or Hell Lord-tier opponents and he has multiple feats of shaking all of the Nine Realms with his blows. He also has multiple feats of him harming or otherwise scaling to Yggdrasil, which makes up all that is. His tiering is split to account for how the power level of gods, who are stories and physical manifestations of belief, can fluctuate. This includes Thor's personal belief in himself, which empowered him to the point where in base he defeated M.Y.T.H.O.S., who had previously oneshot his Complete All-Father form." (this would be a note at the bottom of his profile)
Option 1: Varies according to Divinity, Willpower, and Location. High 3-A (placeholder Herald tier) normally, up to Low 1-A or 1-A at peak.
Option 2: Varies according to Divine Willpower and Location. High 3-A (placeholder Herald tier) normally, up to Low 1-A or 1-A at peak.
Option 3: Varies according to Belief, Willpower, and Location. High 3-A (placeholder Herald tier) normally, up to Low 1-A or 1-A at peak.
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AyOgUyS
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Option 3 looks like the best one to me
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I'm leaning towards that one personally as well
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Option 3
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It may be best to let that rework be its own thing once the time comes, since it sounds like it's going to be verse-wide.Option 3 in that case, but I prefer FinePoint's more general solution of ascribing the inconsistencies to different narrative portrayals rather than in-strory mechanisms.
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