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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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The verse is being reworked? Where? and since when?
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the way i immediately knew
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This lowk accurate
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Kashimo is still top 10 even with Modulo. Anime feats will just exasperate it more. I think the lowballing will reduce based on the hakari and sukuna fight.
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With Modulo, I'd say hes around Top 13-14 with MBA.
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[1-0-4] "Paradox"? Thank goodness, I wouldn't like to be doxxed today! - Takaba Fumihiko vs Fushiguro Toji
Equal speed for simplicity sake Toji starts unarmed but the worm's already around his torso A Comedian - @Arkenis The impressive fella who almost killed Gojo Satoru and to this day was reference of a menace to Jujutsu Sorcerers - Neither lol wtf? (incon) - @Arkansalter2, @Nonynho...
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Hear me out
In a translation that @RaikiKurohane99's finalizing for us, seems like Hakari was confident on taking on TF Sukuna after he's tired AF and if basically everyone else died
So it ain't farfetched to conclude Hakari's confident he's pretty much on the level of a super duper tired Sukuna... which should still be more powerful than his 3F self
So [Hakari ~ 3F] should be true and matchable
In a translation that @RaikiKurohane99's finalizing for us, seems like Hakari was confident on taking on TF Sukuna after he's tired AF and if basically everyone else died
So it ain't farfetched to conclude Hakari's confident he's pretty much on the level of a super duper tired Sukuna... which should still be more powerful than his 3F self
So [Hakari ~ 3F] should be true and matchable
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based on what?
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Jogo was already 5F level according to Gege:
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We don't know for sure what'd happen if domains clashed and if Hakari survives ShrineJogo was already 5F level according to Gege:
Hakari would hard stomp 3F
so it is not thaaaaaaaat easy, even if he survives domain!
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hakari does not survive a malevolent shrine, unless he beats 3f sukuna so quickly before MS destroys idle death gambling or wtv the name is
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tired TF < 16f but depending on which stage of the fight
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Hakari would just beat (and blitz) 3F Sukuna's brakes off before he does a domain, he wouldn't hold back becasue it's literally Sukuna.
Regardless if Sukuna opens his domain, Gojo was also able to fight Sukuna when getting cleaved by the domain and Sukuna says he is still able to keep up at his level because of RCT. Uraume states Hakari's RCT is even faster than Sukuna and Gojo so he'd regenerate through it even better and still beat Sukuna if he's in Jackpot.
16F could one shot anyone there, we see that with 10% of him already matching maki and rage amped yuji + his fp self one shotting Ryu.
Regardless if Sukuna opens his domain, Gojo was also able to fight Sukuna when getting cleaved by the domain and Sukuna says he is still able to keep up at his level because of RCT. Uraume states Hakari's RCT is even faster than Sukuna and Gojo so he'd regenerate through it even better and still beat Sukuna if he's in Jackpot.
Tired TF at any point of the fight gets stomped by 16F
16F could one shot anyone there, we see that with 10% of him already matching maki and rage amped yuji + his fp self one shotting Ryu.
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its not reasonable to assume either ones
but yeah id say hakari has more concrete physical feats
he is not gonna beat him gojo-style, though
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would be just like vs gojo, where domains fall immediately without basketball tech
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I have seen massive amounts of doubt cast on this, namely that Gege was not talking about "Who is strong enough to face Sukuna?" but "Who is available to fight Sukuna?"Jogo was already 5F level according to Gege:
Hakari would hard stomp 3F
Jogo had no set role so he had him fight Sukuna after consuming 10 Fingers.
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whenever i speak about matchmaking, imagine speed as equalize because that's always a boring answer which we can legally get around
16f did it though...?
Sukuna should severely outskill though, so just a faster/better RCT for 4:11 shouldn't necessarily guarantee victory
HWB should just prevent Sukuna from understanding the game, though
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only ever used it when he couldn't use his own domain, he can use it in this scenario
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so what?
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his technique isn't something hard to figure out especially that sukuna has knowledge of casinos through yujis memories
Rodriiogo
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Yea I'm saying 16F Sukuna curbstomps TF Sukuna at any point in Shinjuku, no one in shinjuku even scratches 16F Sukuna. I meant "fp" as in FP 16F Sukuna since he fights Maki and Yuji at 10%
16f did it though...?
I mean yea but it means Malevolent Shrine wont kill Hakari and since he severly outscales he eventually just hits Sukuna with a right hook and Sukuna goes to meet Gojo
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But Sukuna has other means of winning like not immediately dying and using cleave outside of Jackpot, which is not unfeasible because of how skilled the guy is
therefore it ain't a stomp
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no one is one shotting 3F lol get real
anyway, since you equalize speed and hakaris domain is faster than 0.2s, i believe it will hit sukuna first, giving him the information
even if it doesn't hit, either:
1- sukuna in-character would let himself get hit by it, like with JL, even when he knew it was dangerous he still risked it
2- it doesn't hit, but thats not that relevant
anyway, since you equalize speed and hakaris domain is faster than 0.2s, i believe it will hit sukuna first, giving him the information
even if it doesn't hit, either:
1- sukuna in-character would let himself get hit by it, like with JL, even when he knew it was dangerous he still risked it
2- it doesn't hit, but thats not that relevant
Nonynho
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Unless he's already with HWB's hand signs prepared or something alike, it is very unlikely for him to be able to not get hit by Hakari's domain sure-hit, which is the information on how the game works
Knowing how the game works
Knowing how the game works
- Makes Sukuna's wincon (hitting whenever Jackpot's not up) tremendously more likely and viable
- Is very hard to avoid and Sukuna should notice real quick that he ain't cooked by "getting hit by it"
Rodriiogo
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This is talking about a matchup in the wiki I assume, so goodluck making this be the case in the wiki? Genuinely what sort of scaling do u want to give 3F Sukuna? He has narrative sure but we can't index that, his best feat or statement is being stated to be weaker than Jogo (not even top 20 btw) and grievously harming Baby Mahito when he was inexperienced and had just learned a literal day ago how to use his technique correctly and reinforce his body.
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i think there is no way someone can prove the first one ain't the case and not be on a Fun and Games thread
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