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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

In any case, Rerir qualifies for Type 7 Immortality, not Type 5.

7. Undead: Characters who cannot die due to technically being already dead, often overlapping with other forms of immortality. This includes characters who can keep existing as spiritual entities upon dying.
 
He can regenerate because he have type 5 immortality. He is literally not alive in a traditional sense and isn't dead lol

His immortality is literally greater than the curse of immortality whom have type 5 immortality.
Immortality through Regeneration is Type 3, not Type 5. So having Immo Type 5 doesn't automatically grant regeneration.
3: Immortality via regeneration: Characters with this type of immortality can simply regenerate from wounds that would normally be lethal, though its effectiveness depends on the degree of the regeneration.
 
Immortality through Regeneration is Type 3, not Type 5. So having Immo Type 5 doesn't automatically grant regeneration.
But the thing is he can exist in a state without his body and he is labelled as Blasphemy against Death with a capital D.

His nature as being a manifestion of abyssal energy should grant him type 5 immortality due to the abyss being nothingness and rejected tjmelines.
 
To me it's crazy that characters with the curse of immortality gets a higher immortality rating than one who goes against Ronova himself and is literally abyssal in nature.
 
To me it's crazy that characters with the curse of immortality gets a higher immortality rating than one who goes against Ronova himself and is literally abyssal in nature.
I mean that doesn't mean the immortality from victim of the curse should be lower than the Sinners' capability.

And bro was never against Ronova like directly. He got crushed instantly the moment he became a sinner because jumped into the moon gate.

But the thing is he can exist in a state without his body and he is labelled as Blasphemy against Death with a capital D.
Again, that's just a title. It doesn't prove or a definitive proof for Immo type 5.
His nature as being a manifestion of abyssal energy should grant him type 5 immortality due to the abyss being nothingness and rejected tjmelines.
where did that even come from
 
I mean that doesn't mean the immortality from victim of the curse should be lower than the Sinners' capability.
Well Rerir immortality stems from the abyss rather than a curse and we know the abyssal energy is neither alive, death or destructible. It should be greater for that reasoning
And bro was never against Ronova like directly. He got crushed instantly the moment he became a sinner because jumped into the moon gate.
Only his physical form because the moongate destroys the bodt but not as phantom because he was destroying shi in the moon gate lol.
Again, that's just a title. It doesn't prove or a definitive proof for Immo type 5.

where did that even come from
I mean alternative fates is interpreted as timelines aren't they? And the abyss is essentially the hatred of fates rejected.
 
Well Rerir immortality stems from the abyss rather than a curse and we know the abyssal energy is neither alive, death or destructible. It should be greater for that reasoning
I mean, if the curse was operate on a higher level plane of reality than the world itself, I guess no wonder it was that OP. Even Capitano said the curse was rules in and of itself.

Only his physical form because the moongate destroys the bodt but not as phantom because he was destroying shi in the moon gate lol.
His Phantom Form was formed after his body got destroyed into countless pieces.

I mean alternative fates is interpreted as timelines aren't they? And the abyss is essentially the hatred of fates rejected.
That's true, but that's not the evidence for any types of immortalities.
 
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"I never said that" Huh?
Yeah, i never talk about Luna 7-8 conversation
A character whose body is destroyed and then regenerates does not gain that type of Immortality.
it was never stated that they created their respective primordial elements
I never said that
I just said "Dragons" u just assume i was talking like in your example; but in truth i was talking about the entire civilization
You think Dragons who ruled over Primordial Elements, such as Xiuhcoatl with Phlogiston means Xiuhcoatl created Phlogiston itself? Yeah nah, while his brother Kukulkan straight up telling you Xiuhcoatl was born from Phlogiston in the heart of the Sacred Mountain. That means Phlogiston predates Xiuhcoatl. And it could also be happening to the other Sovereigns to their respective primordial elements.
Explained in my previous point
 
I just said "Dragons" u just assume i was talking like in your example; but in truth i was talking about the entire civilization
Okay so prove it they "created" the primordial elements like you said then besides just Nibelung. While the lore basically implies the primordial elements predates any dragons, except maybe Nibelung.

I don't even know what's your main point on this matter anyway.

Yeah, i never talk about Luna 7-8 conversation
Since when I'm talking about Luna 7-8 conversation?
 
Since when I'm talking about Luna 7-8 conversation?
Luna 7 - 8 was the conversation that Bina and Rerir had in the Moon gate... how can you not even renember said thing
Okay so prove it they "created" the primordial elements like you said then besides just Nibelung.
Nibelung = part of the dragon civilization
Genshin players when it comes down to autoconcede their points 🥶 🥶 🥶 🥶 🥶 🥶
 
Luna 7 - 8 was the conversation that Bina and Rerir had in the Moon gate... how can you not even renember said thing
Bro is huffing the copium of the highest caliber, fr fr.

Luna 7 = 6.6
Luna 8 = 6.7 (Literally bout to release)

Act 8 of Nod-Krai Archon Quest was in 6.3 which is Luna 4 😭👈
So who doesn't remember things now?

Nibelung = part of the dragon civilization
Genshin players when it comes down to autoconcede their points 🥶 🥶 🥶 🥶 🥶 🥶
What in the logical error.
 
primordial elements have existed from the very beginning, even before Nibelung was born. Have forgotten that Nibelung was born from the primordial sea?
曾经有一个时代,牵引着原初天球的银轮,其数量依旧为三。
那时,香水海孕育的始源之龙翱行深空,消失在星间迷雾中。

There was once an era when the number of silver moons that guided the Primordial Firmament still remained at three. At that time, the Primordial Dragon born from the Perfume Sea soared through the depths of space, vanishing into the starry mists.
Dragons merely utilize those elements; they didn't create them. The same goes for Phanes, he simply transformed those primitive elements into the modern ones we have today, enabling humans to use them and fight more effectively against the Abyss.

Element energy is a cosmic energy
A catalyst made from rare blackcliff. It glows when activated and cosmic energy circulates within.
The dual purification of fire and water renders Cor Purum unbreakable, and the thaumaturges also believe it allows the stone to act as a vessel for primordial cosmic energy. A catalyst with Cor Purum at its core can channel cosmic energy with the turning of the disc. Twelve full turns works the energy into its purest form.
 


I think it's a way of saying that Phanes rule over Teyvat isn't that important anymore. Because humanity no longer depends on him.

By the way, Snezhnaya's "Visions" are similar to "Delusions"
 
So, Odette is probably Rosalyne's adoptive daughter
[GI6.7pre]

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Odette and Rosalyne... how nostalgic. I should make an effort to look after Odette when I'm in Snezhnaya, as much as I can.
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True... Rosalyne danced with a fiery passion, whereas Odette is as frosty and opaque as a block of solid ice.
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At least in that regard, she resembles Rosalyne.
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I find it really quite fascinating. Despite learning her craft under Rosalyne, their temperaments and styles couldn't be more different.
 
They get a long each other but Bina punched him because he reminds her of Nibelung 😭

Columbina: You seem like a good per- uhm, dragon. Not the kind that throws people in prison for no reason.
Columbina: I think we can get along just fine.
Neuvillette: Ah, well.. Thank you..?
Neuvillette: (Then, she punched me because..?)
Paimon: Sorry, Neuvillette! She thinks that's a sign of friendship..
 
They get a long each other but Bina punched him because he reminds her of Nibelung 😭

Columbina: You seem like a good per- uhm, dragon. Not the kind that throws people in prison for no reason.
Columbina: I think we can get along just fine.
Neuvillette: Ah, well.. Thank you..?
Neuvillette: (Then, she punched me because..?)
Paimon: Sorry, Neuvillette! She thinks that's a sign of friendship..
Prejudice runs deep.
 
[GI 6.7 - #PRELOAD]

Eggie: Its purpose was to turn the moon into... a space-based weapon!
Paimon: S—Space-based weapon? Wait, is this "Lord of Darkness"...
Traveler: It's probably the returning dragon king, Nibelung.

the Traveler isn't a loreskipper
 
And ladies and gentlemen, that's the end of "whether Nibelung is a Descender or not" debates.
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The Traveler's spaceship records

[ GI 6.7 - #PRELOAD ]

HUGE spoiler

Paimon Goodbye, Eggie... Paimon will always remember you.
Terminal (Voice Only) (...A burst of signal static...)
Terminal (Voice Only) (...It seems the activation of the Moongazer module has activated a sealed data segment...)
Terminal (Voice Only) ...This is... the ...
Terminal (Voice Only) ...Received... message... and... sending our reply...
Terminal (Voice Only) ...Unable to... accurately pinpoint your coordinates... I cannot know how long... this reply reaches you...
Terminal (Voice Only) ...But I'd like to... respond... at this very moment...
Terminal (Voice Only) ...We are travelers... who have traversed the universe alone for a long time... and your voices... it is as if a bonfire has suddenly lit up a dark forest...
Terminal (Voice Only) ...You take great risks... yet you are fearless... You inspire us and warm our hearts...
Terminal (Voice Only) ...I believe... in this moment... it is the gravity of the starry sea and destiny... that connects you and me...
Terminal (Voice Only) ...In the future... we will try... to find your... planet... but not now, unfortunately... We're still dealing with... some trouble...
Terminal (Voice Only) (...A burst of signal static...)
Terminal (Voice Only) (...Aether! Are you ready?/...Lumine, how're we doing?)
Terminal (Voice Only) (...One moment, Lumine.../...Almost ready, Aether...)
Terminal (Voice Only) (...A burst of signal static...)
Terminal (Voice Only) ...Well then... My regards to you...
Terminal (Voice Only) ...Just as you said, the sea of stars is vast and boundless, and we are not alone...
Terminal (Voice Only) ...Let us meet again beneath the starry skies...
 
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