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Sung Jin-Woo VS Cid Kagenou (Solo Leveling VS Eminence in Shadow)

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This has been done before, but it might be a little more fair this time. Since Cid has NPI on his page being able to attack spirits and also has 6-C AP now.


Sung Jin-Woo, the Shadow Monarch VS Cid Kagenou, Shadow
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Conditions:
  • True Shadow Monarch Jin-Woo is used.
  • Cid is assumed to have already amplified himself with magic at the start of the fight. (This is to prevent weird speed blitz conditions)
  • Speed is equalized.
  • Battle starts at a distance of 1 kilometer & takes place in the middle of the Sahara Desert.
Stats:
  • AP: Jin-Woo scales to 11.766 Gigatons; Cid scales to 43 Gigatons with magic. Thus, Cid holds a 3.65x advantage. (Note: the page says that Cid scales to 100 gigatons via one-shot scaling with magic amplified attacks, but that's just... not really a thing we do. Idk where that came from). I AM ATOMIC is High 6-A so it just one-shots.
  • Lifting Strength: Jin-Woo scales to 1.903e+9 kg in base and 2.625e+12 kg with Ruler's Authority; Cid scales to 5.419e12 kg with magic. So, at max, Cid holds a 2x advantage.
 
  • AP: Jin-Woo scales to 11.766 Gigatons; Cid scales to 43 Gigatons with magic. Thus, Cid holds a 3.65x advantage. (Note: the page says that Cid scales to 100 gigatons via one-shot scaling with magic amplified attacks, but that's just... not really a thing we do. Idk where that came from).
It was accepted mainly because he has a statement of amplifying his magic output of "a thousands times" and various damage boosts he has. But they are currently reworking the upscaling standards so I'm unsure if it'll stay on the profile.

Anyway, to simplify, Cid can make his magic do piercing damage and bisect things that were undamaged prior. Even lesser characters can do this. So Cid should one-shot with any attack.

What does Sung start with?
 
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Sung Jin Woo iirc doesn't start with fear hax..

And pretty much Cid starts with attacks that ***** with ANPR, Instinctive Action and ESP along with attacking outside of perception so uh, Cid one shots?
 
What does Sung start with?
Summoning an army of 130,000 shadow soldiers with Low-Godly regeneration.

Sung Jin Woo iirc doesn't start with fear hax..
He does actually.

His aura instills the sensation of death approaching and freezes people stiff in terror.

He also used it at the beginning of his fight with the Dragon Monarch to freeze up his entire army of thousands.

Anyway, to simplify, Cid can make his magic do piercing damage and bisect things that were undamaged prior. Even lesser characters can do this. So Cid should one-shot with any attack.
Can he do this against non-physical beings or has it only been showcased against physical things?

Also, Jin-Woo is able to regenerate his body despite being a spiritual being, and is comparable to a character that has regenerated from the state of a torn cloth.

you could think of it as him having High-Mid regen for his soul.

so it would take more than just bisecting him to kill him.

And pretty much Cid starts with attacks that ***** with ANPR, Instinctive Action and ESP along with attacking outside of perception so uh, Cid one shots?
Jin-Woo has ESP that senses the entire planet simultaneously. His ESP/Senses are also layered as he is able to see through invisible and concealment abilities.

And he can predict attacks that he can't see by sensing their flow, and even earlier in the series was able to sense and predict someone who negated the five senses.

His ANPR is compared to foresight and he can see every minute movement a person makes.
 
Summoning an army of 130,000 shadow soldiers with Low-Godly regeneration.
Cid has AoE shockwaves, but really nothing against Low-godly regen. Unless for some reason he can KO them.

I remember Sung has some mana limit for how many times he can summon them. Cid upscales fighting for 72h. Hypothetically can Sung keep regen them for this long?
He does actually.

His aura instills the sensation of death approaching and freezes people stiff in terror.

He also used it at the beginning of his fight with the Dragon Monarch to freeze up his entire army of thousands.
Cid has no FI resistance, nor SW. But he doesn't flinch against being impaled or fighting opponent that are FTE and one-shots above him. If it's just fear, I think it's only helping that far. If it has some paralysis bullshit, then Cid is cooked?

Also, Cid has resistance to Info Analysis. Sung'll see Cid as very weak, even if he acts as Shadow. Is Sung using Fear Hax against a single much weaker opponent?
Can he do this against non-physical beings or has it only been showcased against physical things?
He's shown only against physical things. But any attack with magic has NPI by default. Unless being incorporeal and stuff makes you immune to piercing damage.
Also, Jin-Woo is able to regenerate his body despite being a spiritual being, and is comparable to a character that has regenerated from the state of a torn cloth.

you could think of it as him having High-Mid regen for his soul.

so it would take more than just bisecting him to kill him.
I don't think Cid has a direct counter to this. Can Cid KO him? If not I guess Cid's only wincon is to outstamina Sung until he can no longer regen himself and his army.
Jin-Woo has ESP that senses the entire planet simultaneously. His ESP/Senses are also layered as he is able to see through invisible and concealment abilities.
Cid can also do that, aside from planet range. And his stealth mastery works on every ESP of the verse, even ones that can see trough concealment.
And he can predict attacks that he can't see by sensing their flow,
That's like Rex's feat, which is around Number level (as they are better than First Children, like Rex), which is below the Seven Shadows, which are below Cid.
and even earlier in the series was able to sense and predict someone who negated the five senses.
It doesn't talk about predicting. I would argue Cid has better stealth mastery tho, as Shadow he negated Delta's senses.
The problem is that Cid negates the same information you would use to predict him. You talk about "minute movement" but Cid can counter ANPR better than visualizing movements based on eye motion and a little movement of the tip of the sword.
Analytical Prediction & Instinctive Action (Once he used his true sword, Beatrix, who is more skilled than Iris, who previously could read Cid based on the gaze and the tip of the sword's movements, became unable to perceive his attacks regardless of their speed.
To see if Sung can see trough Cid attack we would need to know if he has enough senses, and martial art expertise to do it. Cid also nullified the entirety of Beatrix's fighting experience. She mentions how she should be able to predict attacks since she has the experience, but she has to rely on luck to block Cid's. Like, Cid knows a bunch of martial arts, if Sung doesn't know them, it will be hard for him to predict him.
 
Smth about Cid's LS is confusing me here. It says he has Class G LS for pushing clouds, but his value is Class T. The feat also doesn't seem to involve pushing anything, and the scans on the calc are broken so I can't confirm this. I want to say Jin-Woo can just pin Cid with Ruler's Authority, but what exactly is the deal with his stats?
 
Smth about Cid's LS is confusing me here. It says he has Class G LS for pushing clouds, but his value is Class T. The feat also doesn't seem to involve pushing anything, and the scans on the calc are broken so I can't confirm this. I want to say Jin-Woo can just pin Cid with Ruler's Authority, but what exactly is the deal with his stats?
You mean Sung right? Cid doesn't have class T
 
I remember Sung has some mana limit for how many times he can summon them. Cid upscales fighting for 72h. Hypothetically can Sung keep regen them for this long?
After getting the Black Heart his mana is really high to the point that its said he can regenerate them infinitely.

Jinwoo also can just use mana/health/stamina potions and stuff.

I'm not sure what exactly his stamina is but this same Jinwoo later went 27 years fighting in the gap between dimensions.

Cid has no FI resistance, nor SW. But he doesn't flinch against being impaled or fighting opponent that are FTE and one-shots above him. If it's just fear, I think it's only helping that far. If it has some paralysis bullshit, then Cid is cooked?

Also, Cid has resistance to Info Analysis. Sung'll see Cid as very weak, even if he acts as Shadow. Is Sung using Fear Hax against a single much weaker opponent?
Cid probably is just cooked off of this then, ngl. No resistance or SW means he will just get paralyzed.

His Dragon Fear paralyzed an entire army of like 10s of thousands of monsters and stuff. And his aura itself is a passive that does the same thing on a smaller range.


Edit: Also, Jinwoo/the army can't really be KO'd, since they aren't really biological organisms. Like, the soldiers are just darkness and shadow. Not really anyway to knock that out.
 
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Idk how Cid is dealing with an army with low godly regen ngl even if he skill slops Jin-Woo
 
Fear hax + 100000 low godly regen soldiers + Class T TK + Can outstamina Cid

Literally nothing Cid can do here, it's a stomp
 
After getting the Black Heart his mana is really high to the point that its said he can regenerate them infinitely.

Jinwoo also can just use mana/health/stamina potions and stuff.

I'm not sure what exactly his stamina is but this same Jinwoo later went 27 years fighting in the gap between dimensions.


Cid probably is just cooked off of this then, ngl. No resistance or SW means he will just get paralyzed.

His Dragon Fear paralyzed an entire army of like 10s of thousands of monsters and stuff. And his aura itself is a passive that does the same thing on a smaller range.


Edit: Also, Jinwoo/the army can't really be KO'd, since they aren't really biological organisms. Like, the soldiers are just darkness and shadow. Not really anyway to knock that out.
I think Cid has no real wincon here then. I could argue some stuff for LS and the regen, but tbh he has zero answer to Fear Hax, if it actually paralyze him and *****. So he just loses anytime Sung pulls it out.
 
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