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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

how would higuruma clash with mahoraga?
can he trial a non human?
if he can, can mahoraga even defend himself?

assuming he does get confiscated, what is gonna be confiscated? since he didn't trial megumi he can't confiscate 10S per se

and would sword of executioner kill maho?
 
Sus said:
how would higuruma clash with mahoraga?
can he trial a non human?
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the translations i got for japanese law to give input in Higuruma matches were all saying about japanese citizens
Makora resides in Japan, so japanese law applies to him

Sus said:
if he can, can mahoraga even defend himself?
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Upon the domain working, Makora can't break it since no aggression's allowed
and the wheel's also already spinning, so either he becomes immune to the IK effect of the sword, because accepting a duel is not excusing one from being tried by murder or attempted murder at least, possibly with degree of cruelty because of involving magic, a sword and martial arts (but this could not be the case because people there were trying to beat him too, calling a duel. Some of his kills will also not count because of obvious claims of self-defense, but not all of them), or he becomes a lawyer and defends himself...

Exposition to CT accelerates the adaptation and Executioner's Sword is only ONE aspect of the Higuruma's CT, if we go by the typical immunity he'd be first becoming immune to the non-aggression rule and then maybe start adapting to other aspects of it, so either he doesn't adapt fast enough and Higuruma's able to finalize him, or he's Saul Goodman'ing his way outta this one

Sus said:
assuming he does get confiscated, what is gonna be confiscated? since he didn't trial megumi he can't confiscate 10S per se

and would sword of executioner kill maho?
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confiscation takes the blade in his hand first then we could say adapting would be taken if somehow a retrial is asked and confiscation is the result again

it'd DEFINETELY need at least 2 spins to guarantee Makora's adapted to Executioner's Sword
 
My most likely guess would be that:
  1. He'd be tried for one of the murders not justified by self-defense (such as Gojo Satoru's, for example)
  2. One Wheel Spin to be immune to the non-aggression rule inside Higuruma's Domain
  3. Makora dashes forward towards Judgeman or Higuruma
  4. Gets condemned for:
    1. Assisted* Capital Murder with Degree Of Cruelty
    2. Attempted murder with Assaulting in Tribunal aggravation and attempted intimidation of witnesses and authorities (Art. 105-2)
  5. Makora gets the blade in his arm confiscated, very likely the 2nd wheel spin is to try to be immune to confiscation
  6. Before the wheel spins to get Makora immune to Executioner's Sword he's killed
 
Nonynho said:
Upon the domain working, Makora can't break it since no aggression's allowed
and the wheel's also already spinning, so either he becomes immune to the IK effect of the sword, because accepting a duel is not excusing one from being tried by murder or attempted murder at least, possibly with degree of cruelty because of involving magic, a sword and martial arts (but this could not be the case because people there were trying to beat him too, calling a duel. Some of his kills will also not count because of obvious claims of self-defense, but not all of them), or he becomes a lawyer and defends himself...
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Mahoraga cannot speak, without a mean for him to defend himself the trial is not valid.
Mahoraga is also not a human, so laws may not apply to him and even if they were applied to him as a human, he may be innocent by reason of insanity
 
Nonynho said:
My most likely guess would be that:
  1. He'd be tried for one of the murders not justified by self-defense (such as Gojo Satoru's, for example)
  2. One Wheel Spin to be immune to the non-aggression rule inside Higuruma's Domain
  3. Makora dashes forward towards Judgeman or Higuruma
  4. Gets condemned for:
    1. Assisted* Capital Murder with Degree Of Cruelty
    2. Attempted murder with Assaulting in Tribunal aggravation and attempted intimidation of witnesses and authorities (Art. 105-2)
  5. Makora gets the blade in his arm confiscated, very likely the 2nd wheel spin is to try to be immune to confiscation
  6. Before the wheel spins to get Makora immune to Executioner's Sword he's killed
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adapting to the domain should include both penalties imo

but yeah the fight has way too many assumptions probably gege himself didn't think of it
 
takaba vs mahoraga wouldn't be interesting imo

takaba would just do maho like the special grade spirit, and possibly one shit

if he survives, adapting to comedian is a piece of cake
 
Entity said:
Mahoraga cannot speak, without a mean for him to defend himself the trial is not valid.
Mahoraga is also not a human, so laws may not apply to him and even if they were applied to him as a human, he may be innocent by reason of insanity
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Trial should be possible since he's able to cognize enough to strategize and match skillwise peak martial artists in basically the whole world
Judgeman also should let the trial go on with the possibility that adapting to the trial could include learning to speak and attempting to defend himself

Also, even if he's judged as insane, he'd have this sentence nullified for attempted murder in court and very likely turned into a death sentence and everything goes as i proposed

Sus said:
mahoraga regenerated the blade against dabura
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Still, it's an item so he'll keep trying to be immune to it's confiscation, which should be what the second wheel spin will try covering and he should die against Executioner's Sword before the third wheel spins to get immune to it

Sus said:
adapting to the domain should include both penalties imo

but yeah the fight has way too many assumptions probably gege himself didn't think of it
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First wheel spin should be against the no-aggression rule, 100%
Second spin can only be adapting to one penalty at time because of how different they are (Executioner's Sword functioned for mere seconds while Higuruma was dying, while the item's confiscation kept being true, and as it should be the first one to happen, it'll be the first one the wheel will adapt to;

Definetely too much is assumed for them to be anything other than incon, by our rules
 
Sus said:
takaba vs mahoraga wouldn't be interesting imo

takaba would just do maho like the special grade spirit, and possibly one shit

if he survives, adapting to comedian is a piece of cake
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it happened here in the site

not even the thread was interesting
 
Nonynho said:
Trial should be possible since he's able to cognize enough to strategize and match skillwise peak martial artists in basically the whole world
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both sukuna and dabura implied maho has his own consciousness
Nonynho said:
Judgeman also should let the trial go on with the possibility that adapting to the trial could include learning to speak and attempting to defend himself
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headcanon
 
Nonynho said:
First wheel spin should be against the no-aggression rule, 100%
Second spin can only be adapting to one penalty at time because of how different they are
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mahoraga adapts to everything he has experienced, he doesn't adapt to phenomena one by one
 
Sus said:
both sukuna and dabura implied maho has his own consciousness

headcanon
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yep, we agreed it'd be full of assumptions

Sus said:
mahoraga adapts to everything he has experienced, he doesn't adapt to phenomena one by one
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exactly
first he experiences the domain, adapts to its no-aggression rule, then experiences confiscation, adapts to it and then he'd start adapting to the sword, but by that time, Higuruma can already have killed him


Sus said:
either takaba one shots immediately since he doesn't entertain non humans

or maho survives and wins
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most likely first case since he spawned a truck that no-sold a special-grade curse before
 
Megumi has such potential! He's even capable of impeding our protagonists from finishing Sukuna :>
 
Nonynho said:
exactly
first he experiences the domain, adapts to its no-aggression rule, then experiences confiscation, adapts to it and then he'd start adapting to the sword, but by that time, Higuruma can already have killed him
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maho is vastly faster but he never dodges so idk
Nonynho said:
most likely first case since he spawned a truck that no-sold a special-grade curse before
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yeah, rivals gojo n shi, but id say its 50/50
 
funny how kashimo had 400 years of build up for his suicide move just for it to be worst suicidal move of the 3
 
Sus said:
maho is vastly faster but he never dodges so idk
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i think i'll make an article on "Higuruma vs Mahoraga" on F&G
I will study a tad bit more about japanese law but all going well this should be a stomp full of assumptions
 
Sus said:
funny how kashimo had 400 years of build up for his suicide move just for it to be worst suicidal move of the 3
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His record is literally 0-2-0 and lasted less than 15 minutes in total summing up both battles
Kenjaku really liked the guy to make a contract with him lmfao
 
after rereading i noticed black hole needs time to activate and tengen had to distract kenjaku

so she aint killing anyone as fast as her
 
Makora cannot be tried as it's not a human. Either the Domain just doesn't affect it, or it can only be found Not Guilty. In the latter case, it would also start adapting to Deadly Sentencing as soon as it's inside the Domain, and will soon be able to ignore the no-violence rule or outright destroy the Domain.

Tertiary thoughts: Adapting to Deadly Sentencing ≠ adapting to the Executioner's Sword, but since Makora cannot receive the death penalty it's a pointless tidbit.
 
What happened to Toji's SSK ?
Did Geto have it, if so he probably couldn't have used it but what about Kenjaku ?
 
since six eyes gives atomic level precision
six eyes + idle transfiguration should theoretically be precise enough to alter brain and give mental disorders
 
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From 259 onwards i've read recently to get a grasp at BWR to properly defend my boy Todo

but lemme ask here, can someone source or bring a scan of where tf did Hakari ever say he wouldn't win against Uraume? The only part where he mentioned anything alike was when they talked and when he said "we're going to win", regarding beating Sukuna's ass
 
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And after he said it, there was a point where he could predict but still fell for a feint
Best glaze possible
 
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