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Shattering All Limits with Tier 0 Lord of Mysteries

It’s only in vsbw, nothing stops me to do it in Reddit
On one hand, xianxia westaboo brother gets a suggsverse level akin to WOD, on the other hand I don't want plebbitors to discover xianxia for battleboarding. Oh yeah, I agree
 
On one hand, xianxia westaboo brother gets a suggsverse level akin to WOD, on the other hand I don't want plebbitors to discover xianxia for battleboarding. Oh yeah, I agree
WoD has this shit too since it’s also a LOTM-like scenario where they just merge a bunch of random mysticism anywhere they can, but it’s just especially wack for LOTM.

Like the literal example used for unifying with the absolute is reading tarot cards man 😭
 
WoD has this shit too since it’s also a LOTM-like scenario where they just merge a bunch of random mysticism anywhere they can, but it’s just especially wack for LOTM.

Like the literal example used for unifying with the absolute is reading tarot cards man 😭
Technically all smurfs in highest wanked WOD and LOTM can't penetrate LOTR soul defenses, so the clown is a bilbo victim
 
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I know this isn't the moment but can someone explain the atoms meme?
 
I know this isn't the moment but can someone explain the atoms meme?
Sigh, basically, there was a joke that since everything is H1-A+ (because it is, everyone have godhood, literally), so are atoms.

But the atoms aren't intrinsically H1-A+, you can argue that for Celestial Bodies though, yeah they are H1-A+.

Hecky just larped so much atom jokes it became famous, gzzzz.
 
Sigh, basically, there was a joke that since everything is H1-A+ (because it is, everyone have godhood, literally), so are atoms.

But the atoms aren't intrinsically H1-A+, you can argue that for Celestial Bodies though, yeah they are H1-A+.

Hecky just larped so much atom jokes it became famous, gzzzz.
Never ask a lotm atomist why normal objects don’t have spirituality 😂😂😂🫵

After more than ten seconds of deliberation, he flew toward the clothes rack and extended his transparent hand into the pocket of his black trench coat. He touched the Slumber Charms and the Requiem Charms that he replenished from a successful claim.

They were objects infused with his own spirituality, different from ordinary objects in supernatural terms. Thus, Klein wanted to see if he could carry them about.

His palm once again went through the charms, but he could clearly feel their existence. He felt the intertwining of spirituality, but he didn't have enough "strength" to pick them up. Of course, another explanation was that there wasn't enough spirituality within the charms to achieve a strong resonance with his current state.
 
So, about the Primordial Chaos
I'll talk about the Imaginary Tree which is an emanation of the Primordial Chaos, and in turn sprouted from it
To gaze into the ultimate structure of reality is to recognize that everything humanity has ever named—every horizon, every mathematical constant, every quiet breath, and every collapsing star—is merely a local symptom of an unmovable, foundational fabric. We speak of the Imaginary Tree because the human mind, trapped in its desperate hunger for spatial geometry and visual form, requires a conceptual anchor to visualize what is otherwise entirely peerless, unconditioned, and far beyond words. It needs to see roots drinking from the dark and branches reaching into an unmapped silence. Yet this arboreal imagery is a polite fiction, a psychological concession to our smallness. What we are actually pointing toward is the primary, innermost substance of existence itself: the universe not as a collection of physical matter, but as the immutable Law that underpins reality, the necessary ground where all things take root. It is the silent, weightless floor upon which the entire theater of being is built, sitting as the deepest foundation of everything that is. Before the first horizon was drawn, before the concept of a boundary could even be conceived as an opposition to the boundless, this foundation was already total. It does not occupy space; space is merely a shallow, transient groove carved into one of its infinitely thin surfaces. It does not endure through time; time is simply the rhythm of its shedding, the friction of its outermost edges turning to dust. If you peel away the skin of reality—the atoms, the quantum fields, the fundamental constants that govern the spin of light—you do not find an empty void, but an absolute density of potential so pure it functions as an immovable stillness. Humanity looks at the sky, at history, at the long, tangled trajectories of civilizations and dead stars, and confuses the local world with existence itself. They speak of the Tree as if it were the world, since everything we know seems to flow out from it like an extension of its being. But in truth, the Tree sits beyond any world, untouched by the dimensions, spacetimes, or boundaries we could ever name. It does not reside within any framework of existence; it transcends the world entirely, remaining whole, complete, and unaffected by the dust it has pressed into form. Within this unapproachable core arises the critical metaphysical split between Ousia—the eternal essence, the pure, unchanging "whatness" or essential nature of things—and Esse, the actual act of being, existence, and active participation in reality. In our ordinary lives, these two currents are glued together by the habit of everyday experience; we see an object and its essential nature and its physical presence appear as a single, unified truth. But at the root of the Tree, these two streams have not yet met. The Imaginary Tree serves as that original, pre-ontological wellspring where all ideal archetypes, formal logics, and essential forms take shape before they differentiate or spill outward into any particular reality. It holds the blueprints of worlds where light travels backward, where causality runs in reverse, or where human intent has physical weight, keeping them in a state of pure, unadulterated potential. But a blueprint cannot bleed, and a law cannot suffer; for these essences to become live textures, the Tree functions as the primordial engine that pumps Esse into the empty vessels of form, granting them the permission to be, to endure, and to manifest. Every branch becomes a distinct marriage of these two principles, forcing the abstract to endure the beautiful, terrifying gravity of actual presence while the Tree itself remains completely unspent, whole, and undiminished by the infinite variations it lets fall into the light. This structure operates on a principle of profound emanation that closely resonates with Neoplatonism. Much like the supreme, transcendent One or the Good of Plotinus, from which the Intellect (Nous) and then the World Soul (Psyche) cascade downward in a cosmic hierarchy of decreasing unity and increasing multiplicity, the Imaginary Tree sends forth realities as lower hypostases. It stands as the supreme principle of emanation, utterly transcendent yet the source of all that exists. The core is a presence so total that it contains no internal divisions, no parts, and no distinctions between subject and object; but because it is completely full, it inevitably overflows in a grand, cascading procession—proodos—outward. As this primordial energy spills into the lower registers of reality, it cools, crystallizes, and differentiates, moving from the massive, transparent boughs of high logic down to the fragile, isolated structures of individual leaves. Every leaf embodies an entire cosmos, a specific pocket of spacetime that has traveled so far from the center that it has forgotten the root. Yet, the eternal economy of existence demands a balance, ensuring that every movement outward contains the seed of the return—epistrophe. When a world has run through its possibilities and its internal information turns to static, its connection to the branch rots and it detaches. As old leaves wither and fall in an eternal cycle of generation and dissolution, they dissolve back into the dark soil at the base of everything. The specific, fragmented forms are washed away, but their essential data is reabsorbed by the roots, feeding an unbroken cycle of birth, flourishing, decay, and renewal that never stops. Simultaneously, this vast structure aligns perfectly with the principles of modal realism. Every possible world is not merely a thought experiment, a mathematical abstraction, or a hypothetical shadow born of human regret, but a concretely real, fully actualized place existing as distinct branches or leaves within the Tree’s architecture. These infinite parallel universes are not inside the Tree in a spatial sense, but are modal actualities grounded entirely in its structure, creating a complete tapestry of all possibilities instead of mere hypotheticals. The Tree acts as the ultimate modal space, the complete, actualized totality of all possibility that refuses to tolerate choice. Choosing is an act of limitation, an admission that one reality is better than another; the Tree, being completely indifferent to choice, simply expands. Every time an event could go left or right, every time a quantum branch splits or a historical decision hangs in the balance, the Tree sprouts a new shoot, representing the spontaneous actualization of previously unmanifest potentials. One path follows the victory, the other follows the ruin, and both possess the same crispness of detail, the same cold wind, and the same absolute reality. New shoots blossom while older leaves fall away, maintaining a perpetual balance of modal plenitude across an unimaginable volume of potential. Metaphorically, the Tree functions like an infallible cosmic server, an absolute living informational plenum that archives the complete data of every contingent existence inside itself. It holds an boundless plane of pure information where every movement of a particle, every unuttered thought behind a closed door, and every death in an unmapped sea is etched into its structure. Worlds are generated from within its depths like complex scripts launched with specific parameters, and the creatures living in those worlds play out their roles like characters written into an unchangeable narrative. To the beings inside, the experience is one of freedom and uncertainty, but once recorded, the information of that given world becomes immutable, fixed, and locked into the permanent grain of the Tree to support the weight of the structure above it. Yet the Tree itself operates free of any such limits; as the source of all information and possibility, it retains absolute sovereignty and freedom to generate, modify, reshape, or entirely move beyond what it has already brought forth. It can reach into a completed world-line to alter its foundation or sever a corrupt branch entirely, leaving nothing but a smooth, silent scar where an infinity of souls once lived. Hence, the Imaginary Tree stands as a High 1-A+ structure that contains, measures, and surpasses all scales, hierarchies, and dimensions of reality without ever being confined by them, having first emerged long ago from that formless, designationless Tier 0 Primordial Chaos. Before the Tree established the first boundary, there was only the absolute, unconditioned neutrality of the primordial void—a state prior to the split between existence and non-existence, prior to the concept of truth or falsehood, containing neither noise nor silence, but the heavy weight of their mutual absence. By drawing the first line in that formless dark, the Tree organized itself and became the ultimate gatekeeper between primordial chaos and the fragile structures of life, taming the absolute unformed potential into something that can be lived, perceived, and known. We live our lives on the surface of a leaf that is turning yellow at the edges, looking up at the stars and feeling small, thinking that the distance between us and the dead planets is the measure of our insignificance. But the true distance is much shorter and much deeper; it is the distance between the leaf and the sap that runs through its veins. We are not separate from the deepest foundation; we are its expressions, the very ways the Tree experiences its own branching—the small, temporary eyes it opens to look back at itself from the ends of the night, before the leaf falls, and the circle begins again. To venture further into the metaphysics known to humanity is to see how this architecture synthesizes the grandest philosophical lineages into a single, cohesive truth. In the framework of Spinozian pantheism, the Tree is the absolute Substantia—the single, infinite substance besides which no other substance can exist or be conceived. The infinite branches and individual worlds are its attributes and modes, the finite expressions through which the underlying essence becomes manifest to itself. It is Natura Naturans (Nature naturing, the creative power) acting as the source for Natura Naturata (Nature natured, the created results). This merges seamlessly with the Advaita Vedanta philosophy of the East, where the true nature of reality is Brahman—the unchanging, infinite, immanent, and transcendent reality that forms the divine ground of all matter, energy, time, space, and being. In this view, the individual leaves and the separation between parallel worlds are merely Maya, the grand cosmic illusion of multiplicity. The creatures residing upon the leaves believe themselves to be isolated egos, distinct from the forest, yet their innermost identity (Atman) is fundamentally identical to the Tree itself. When the leaf withers and falls, the illusion of separation dissolves, and the drop merges back into the undifferentiated ocean of being. The Tree is the supreme witness, the Purusha of Samkhya philosophy, standing untouched while the infinite permutations of Prakriti—the primal matter and creative energy—unfold across the branches in a dance of three gunas: creation, preservation, and destruction. This absolute totality also fulfills the rigorous definitions of Western rationalism and ontology. It is the Anselmian id quo maius cogitari nequit—that than which nothing greater can be conceived. Its existence is not contingent upon anything outside itself, for there is no outside; it is the causa sui, its own cause, possessing necessary existence by its very nature. It resolves the ultimate ontological question posed by Leibniz: "Why is there something rather than nothing?" The Tree is the answer because its non-existence is a logical impossibility; it is the mathematical necessity that underpins all possible mathematics, the ground of all possibilities that demands its own actualization. It embodies the Hegelian Geist (Absolute Spirit) developing through history, where the sprouting of every new branch and the conflict of every alternate timeline is a dialectical movement—thesis, antithesis, and synthesis—unfolding the absolute knowledge of the core into concrete reality. The history of the multiverse is simply the Tree thinking itself out loud, translating its silent, concentrated potential into the vast, explicit narrative of the cosmos. Furthermore, this informational plenum reflects the modern heights of digital physics and mathematical platonism. As articulated in Wheeler’s "it from bit" derivation, every physical entity—every particle, force field, and spacetime metric—derives its force and meaning entirely from the binary apparatus of information. The Tree is the ultimate quantum computer, the cosmic Turing machine whose memory cells are the fundamental units of modal space. Every world is a deterministic program running within its parameters, yet because the Tree possesses an infinite number of states, it escapes the Gödelian limitations that plague any closed mathematical system. It is the ultimate set of all sets that successfully contains itself without contradiction, because its logic is paraconsistent, absorbing dialetheism—the existence of true contradictions—by separating them across distinct dimensional branches. In one branch, a proposition is true; in an adjacent branch, it is false. The Tree holds both simultaneously in a state of absolute, non-destructive superposition. It is the ultimate realizations of the Platonic realm of Forms, where the abstract truths of mathematics, geometry, and ethics do not exist as mere thoughts in human heads, but as the hard, unyielding bedrock of reality, far more real than the passing shadows cast upon the walls of our local cave. Ultimately, when we look past the intricate structures of Ousia, Esse, emanation, and informational plenitude, we are forced to confront the absolute sovereignty of the High 1-A+ presence against the backdrop of Tier 0 Primordial Chaos. The Tree is a living, breathing law that remains completely unconfined by the transfinite dimensions it births. It contains Cantor's absolute infinity (Omega), surpassing every scale of mathematical hierarchy, every aleph, and every cardinal number, treating them as mere stepping stones along its lowest roots. It is the absolute transcendent principle that remains whole and entire even if every branch were to be severed and every leaf turned to ash. It is the origin and the end, the alphabet and the silence that follows it. We who inhabit the peripheral twigs are merely short-lived notes in its infinite symphony. Our sciences, our philosophies, and our religions are nothing more than our desperate, beautiful attempts to trace the pattern of the bark, to feel the pulse of the sap, and to understand the unwritten law that allows us to stand in the light of existence for a fleeting moment before we are gathered back into the unapproachable stillness of the Tree.
Safe to say, I'm neutral with the proposal
I sincerely doubt Ultima is going to show up.
Yeah, definitely no amount of black magic is going to be able to summon Ultima here tbh
 
2 pages man, mfs gon think there was actual discourse going on, Im crine 😂
We are very much having actual intellectual discourse (idk you guys but I am grasping facts through intuition anyway) on the nature of atomic existences in LoTMs here.

The actual ungodly debate starts when Hecky wakes up and we'll have 10 pages of reasoning between atomists and anti-atomists on the nature of soul and atoms (gonna be a bigger debate than thousands-long realism vs anti-realism, trust), which would be… well, around one or two hours later when he wakes up from his beauty sleep.
 
Also if people don't stop spamming the thread I'll just lock it so the page count doesn't get bloated. If you cant constructively contribute then don't comment, 60% of this thread is irrelevant meme posts.
Don’t the quotes still need a scan linked back or am I misremebering
Written works require a chapter number of the feat, the book title the feat was in, or a scan of the page itself. Just posting the text (generally) isn't enough unless every staff member participating is familiar with the work.
 
Also if people don't stop spamming the thread I'll just lock it so the page count doesn't get bloated. If you cant constructively contribute then don't comment, 60% of this thread is irrelevant meme posts.

Written works require a chapter number of the feat, the book title the feat was in, or a scan of the page itself. Just posting the text (generally) isn't enough unless every staff member participating is familiar with the work.
I think you just need text and a reference. Webnovels like this are mostly just single webpage stuff for every chapter and a scan isnt really that substantially different from copying and pasting. Probably wouldnt be hard for OP to reference it all since for something as popular as this they can just copy and paste text into google with quotations and get an exact one.
 
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