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- Pre-resurrection Superman is used
- Metamorpho has prior knowledge
- Speed is equalized
- Starting Distance: 20 meters
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Metamorpho vs Superman [1-1-0]
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Well while weakened by Kryptonite, he was able to survive attacks from Armored Batman, who scales to 0.148 tons, which isn't too far off from Metamorpho, who scales to 0.199 tons.
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I vote for Superman. Since speed is equalized, this match comes down to durability and adaptation. Even if Metamorpho turns into Kryptonite, Superman can adapt and build resistance to it over time. Plus, he has proven he can withstand hits from similar AP tiers (like Armored Batman) even while weakened, allowing him to outlast Metamorpho.
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This isn't anywhere on the profile or in any DCEU media.
Outlast him how? How does he deal with Metamorpho's regeneration and superior (when weakened) stats?
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which values are we using for superman?
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Yeah so Metamorpho can quite honestly become a big ass kryptonite hammer and just bully superman with it.
I'll go for metamorpho for this one.
Metamorpho low-mid diff.
He literally got his ass beat at the second dose. If batman wanted to, he would have killed that man. If Kryptonite gets superman bullied like that, then I can assure you that if Metamorpho sees superman, he would 100% go into a big ass aoe kryptonite f!$! you mode and just bully superman from there until he gets layed out.
I'll go for metamorpho for this one.
Superman cannot do that by any means. If he was able to do that, Superman would have been layed out Batman in the movie and the second Gas Kryptonite dose wouldn't have affected him. He ain't Garou, my man.
Metamorpho low-mid diff.
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0.148 tons while Metamorpho would be at 0.199 tons, making it a 1.3 times AP difference.
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Can't use it while weakened and even if he could, Metamorpho can already withstand the temperature needed to create a star.
Can just blast him with Kryptonite gas like Bats.
Keyword: "later". Also, that bullet sent him to the ICU.
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A couple of those bullets will send him to a tupac concert.
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Superman just KO's him with his heatvision the nanosecond Metamorpho starts turning his body to kryptonite.
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That ain't doing shit. Metamorpho has Mid regen and can already withstand the temperature to create a star.
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I wasn't talking about its heat, quettetons of tnt vs tons of tnt. And yeah that's why i said KO, Superman doesn't kill.
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So if Metamorpho turns into Kryptonite gas then what?
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When did he do that ?
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If he sees superman (because lets face it, Metamorpho should know more than enough about superman that he's weak to kryptonite), then he will do that. It even states
(Metamorpho's primary ability is to transmute his body into any known elemental substance—solid, liquid, gas, or metal—based on the periodic table. He can manipulate the form, density, and combination of these elements to create powerful energy outputs or complex constructs. His powers extend beyond Earth-based materials, allowing him to replicate extraterrestrial elements such as Kryptonite
So yes, he can and will absolutely do that. At the very least, he will start with something kryptonite.
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Oh nah, i'm not denying he wont turn into kryptonite, but i don't think he will turn into litterall gas kryptonite. Superman's enchanded senses would just allow him to detect whats happening since Metamorpho's transformation is not instant and he would laser him, he does have the range.
But even if Superman fails and somehow gets weakened by Kryptonite, he wont be as near as weak when he fought Batman cause this time he would have the sun constantly fighting Kryptonite's effects.
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Try lasering gas without having the NPI to do it. Yeah. He can't lol.
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Does that type of NPI specifically allow him to interact with gas?
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Maybe Superman could try using his freeze breathe to solidify the gas.
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The problem then would be if he could do that before he gets weakened. Is this the one scene where he uses it? It looks like it has short range, took a bit to completely freeze the axe, and is most importantly being used Post-Resurrection. Even if he could solidify it, why wouldn't Metamorpho be able to just... immediately turn himself back into gas again? It's not even some kind of complicated reaction, just a state change.
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Superman wouldnt just stand there and inhale Kryptonite considering he already knows what it can do.
Supes has enchanced senses similar to precog (this litterally allowed sub-rel Zod to react to ftl<<<<<<<Flash), Methamorpho likely needs his head as solid (othervise he'd have high level regen), Superman has x ray vision he will just snipe him the moment he starts transforming with his SoL Heatvision.
Even if he does gets affected, too bad sun is perma buffing Superman so all the effects of kryptonite will be reduced if not straight up nullified.
But i'm not voting cause i think this is a stomp,
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Legit the moment he got exposed to that shit, he was stunned. Unable to do anything.
That's a lie and you know it. Speed is equalized so the beam will still be faster but not that much faster.
Ish??? His entire body is sand. Safe to say, his regen should cover his head.
X-ray vision legit will not matter here. If Metamorpho decides to run for cover yes it will, but for this fight, that in particular will not matter. And again, speed is equalized. The lasers will still be faster but not SoL fast.
The sun buff has not EVER been shown to nullify kryptonite weakening powers in any DCEU media. In fact, since kryptonite legit nullifies his power, that means it nullifies his solar absorption powers too. So that too is just a buh point.
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Yeah cause thats the first time he is seeing that shit and explain how Methamorpho is going to build a leed bullet and off guard him like Batman did.
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"Just got to go faster then the speed of light, far beyond the speed of light"
He can't with mid level regen.
Yeah i guess so, i forgot attack speeds also gets nerfed in speed is equalized.
In dceu it drives out his solar energy and because of that he loses his abilities, if he is constantly getting refilled by the sun it would be in a state where sun is trying to heal him and the kryptonite is trying to poison him. The 9-A self ur talking about was when he did not have sunlight amping him at all, so he simply will not be as weakened as 9-A, this guy was fighting the inital Doomsday while there was still kryptonite in his blood.
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