Now that I have time let's do it, FYI, i am just replying to the op and haven't seen any other post.
1. Type 5 Acausality
This is arguably the weakest part of the argument. As I understand it, the reasoning is:
- UEG enters the Sea of Darkness.
- The Sea of Darkness lacks space, time, dimensions, universes, etc.
- Her abilities cease functioning.
- Therefore, the Sea of Darkness transcends causality and qualifies for Type 5 Acausality.
The problem is that the evidence presented does not actually establish the absence of causality.
What the scans show is
- UEG becomes trapped.
- Teleportation fails.
- Dimensional travel fails.
- Time-related abilities cannot be used.
- She gradually dissolves.
None of these points demonstrate that causality itself is absent.
Type 5 Acausality generally requires evidence that something exists fundamentally outside all causal relations, beyond cause and effect altogether and not subject to causal determination in any form. The thread never demonstrates anything of that magnitude. At most, it shows that the Sea of Darkness is a void where conventional abilities no longer function.
Those are not the same thing.
- A lack of spacetime does not automatically imply a lack of causality.
- The inability to travel does not imply a lack of causality.
- Powers failing to function does not imply transcendence of causality.
In fact, the evidence presented still suggests cause-and-effect relationships are operating. UEG enters the Sea of Darkness
and, as a result, her powers stop working and she begins to dissolve. That is itself a causal sequence.
Simply establishing that a realm is empty or devoid of conventional structures does not prove that causality is absent. "Nothingness" and "acausality" are not interchangeable concepts.
2.
BDE Type 1
It was Author's Q&A you can't use it for BDE, it will only give you 4th wall breaking.
I don't partake in nep related stuff, so I'll leave it for other staff.
Anyways i disagree with Acausality type 5 and BDE 1.
Well, you didn't give your opinion on possessing the true form of BDE1, even though you know that it lacks spacetime and everything else, because everything has already ended there and nothing remains, as is clearly explained, UEG tried to search for universes, worlds, dimensions, or to travel through time or dimensions or teleport, but that was useless because there is nothing at all. It's not that the abilities don't work, but rather that there is no place, no time, or anything else, as the text explains.
"....I see. this definitely seemed to be a phenomenon that even the wisdom of mistress could not comprehend.
But, would the mistress die? I don't know where I am, but I just have to move to wherever it is I'm going."
UEG explored the area. The darkness went on forever, really forever. It goes on and on, endlessly, as far as UEG's perception can go.
Then she tried to find another dimension, another parallel world, another universe, but that didn't work either. What she see is nothing but emptiness.
There really is nothing here.
Realizing this, UEG was slowly beginning to feel fear. No matter where she tried to go, there was nothing. As long as there was nothing, there was nowhere to travel to.
After that, she tries to destroy spacetime, the higher universes, the worlds, and the dimensions, including the darkness, but that is also useless because these things do not exist anymore — they have ended. So how can you destroy things that don't exist in the first place, as the text clearly shows?
Very well then! I will destroy everything! Space-time! The universe! Higher universes, including that one as well!”
UEG unleashed all of her power with everything she had, but the power that was supposed to destroy everything vanished into the void. UEG’s power had absolutely no effect on the surroundings.
“It’s useless. There is nothing here. You cannot destroy something that does not exist.”
His darkness completely lacks spacetime and everything else entirely, because everything has ended here, and it doesn't even allow the existence of anything here. This is the core of the argument for possessing BDE1
As for destroying BDE1, you are completely wrong in what you said.
The Mysterious Space is a space within the Final Set that contains everything without exception, as the Absolute God himself stated.
Ah, and by the way, “world” here refers to an ultimate collective set that includes all possible worlds. Because if you simply use the word “world,” it creates confusion—people start asking: what about outside the world? What about other dimensions? What about parallel worlds? So when I say “world,” I mean everything without exception. I want you to understand it that way as well.
The Mysterious Space is a space that exists outside of all time and space, and it is called the Question Corner. Also, the author has absolutely nothing to do with what happens here. These are not the author's questions and answers as you think, and I don't know who told you this strange information.
Can you show me the author's words? Where is his question and where is his answer? What is your source for this information, and where did you get this talk from in the first place? These texts are part of the novel itself, and I don't know what the author has to do with this.
Breaking the fourth wall requires interacting with the readers or scenes where they go out into the real world and such things.
- So what does this have to do with the novel itself and the characters themselves?
- Tell me, what does the Mysterious Space, which is outside of time and space, have to do with breaking the fourth wall? What is its connection? Just tell me what its connection is.
If there is a fourth wall break, it would only be because the characters are talking to the readers, and that is something I can understand. However, can you explain to me what the connection is between this and the Mysterious Space that exists outside of spacetime? Or cosmology — it is part of the Final Set that contains everything without exception.
And also, for the last time, these are not the author's questions and answers. These are the characters themselves speaking.
- Yogiri, Tomochika, Asaka, Mokomoko
These are characters from the novel, and yes, characters can talk to the readers, and this is the only thing that could grant them a fourth wall break — by speaking to the readers. Other than that, there is no other type of fourth wall break.
Yogiri himself stated that he can kill the Mysterious Space itself, and since it is a space outside of spacetime, he would therefore possess the erasure of BDE 1. This is something Yogiri said himself.
Tomochika: So, what about killing the Question Corner, then? I don't really understand the question, but go ahead.
Yogiri: It would just mean there's no Question Corner next time, wouldn't it?
Mokomoko: Such a thing would be rather troubling for us!
Yogiri Takatou, Tomochika Dannoura, and Mokomoko Dannoura are characters from the novel, and they are the three main protagonists from the very beginning of the story.
You did not give your opinion regarding him being a Type 1 concept in relation to his abstract existence. He is independent from the entire world itself, since everything had already ended and absolutely nothing remained, yet he still exists while there was nothing at all, as I explained previously. Since everything ends at him, he is a concept independent from all the things he governs, because he is their end. Everything had already ended at him and nothing remained, and the novel confirmed this in more than one context ↓
"....I see. this definitely seemed to be a phenomenon that even the wisdom of mistress could not comprehend.
But, would the mistress die? I don't know where I am, but I just have to move to wherever it is I'm going."
UEG explored the area. The darkness went on forever, really forever. It goes on and on, endlessly, as far as UEG's perception can go.
Then she tried to find another dimension, another parallel world, another universe, but that didn't work either. What she see is nothing but emptiness.
There really is nothing here.
Realizing this, UEG was slowly beginning to feel fear. No matter where she tried to go, there was nothing. As long as there was nothing, there was nowhere to travel to.
Very well then! I will destroy everything! Space-time! The universe! Higher universes, including that one as well!”
UEG unleashed all of her power with everything she had, but the power that was supposed to destroy everything vanished into the void. UEG’s power had absolutely no effect on the surroundings.
“It’s useless. There is nothing here. You cannot destroy something that does not exist.”
You also did not give your opinion regarding Natural Type 1 Nonexistence Erasure through Information Manipulation, considering that information is what composes and defines the entire world and can itself be regarded as the world itself.
Information Manipulation (
Type 2),
Conceptual Manipulation (
Type 2),
Information Analysis &
Reality Warping (Should capable of
accessing the higher layer of information of the world.
[10] Can manipulate the
world's core, a condensation of information that defines the world and influences it.
[11] By manipulating the world core, reality also will be impacted from it. Those with the
authority of god[11] can freely manipulate the world, which is a
conceptual structure.
[12] Gods are capable of manipulating the underlying building blocks of reality.
[13] Can
manipulate the information that defines an individual's existence[3])
The world also contains the Sea of Darkness, which is a void possessing NEP 1. Since information is what composes everything in the world and can itself be regarded as the world itself:
a condensation of information and power that could be called the world itself
Then information composes both existence and nonexistence, because both are parts of the world that contains everything without exception. It is also stated that those who can manipulate information are capable of changing anything and doing anything within the entire world. Therefore, since the Sea of Darkness is also composed of information by virtue of being part of the world, nonexistence can be erased by erasing its information or affecting it through Type 2 Information Manipulation.