Oh yeah, if there's duplication, remove that too, we interpret it as speed after all.Status update: If nobody else has done so or is planning to, I will make a quick CRT to remove Gerson's teleportation in ~30-40 minutes once I get home.
He only has Afterimage Creation for it
Let me just finish MLP first-
We want to clean up the house before Toby visits
This is what I hope to see.
I think the only thing that Toby wouldn't find to be confusing is Undertale scale, i mean 90% of the characters are wall level and the god tiers are very blatantly at least multiversal
I am tbh,i actually created my vsbw acount to defend the L1c rating when it was first proposed
I personally think Low 1-C is a "possibly" at best but Rodri's apparently making a thread on that.
rodri speed downgrade thread soon, i'm nuking infinite speed. rodri's gonna become immobileThe potential man ain't getting to the cosmology of undertale until 3047
I made mine because I didn't like that the CRT passed lol.
Hard disagree LMAO. I think the problems with multiversal scaling are what allowed the L1-C arguments to exist. The top tiers should be around H3-A to L2-C imo.
Why?
I agree with how it is now
I am 99.999999999999999999999999999999% certain false R>F is not +1D by default, especially if there is no evidence to suggest there is a legitimate uncountable infinite difference between the player and the rest of the verse.
WE are just that goated fr fr
"That said, such cases should be evaluated carefully. A failed Reality-Fiction Transcendence claim should not be upgraded by default. Merely being weaker, smaller, contained within or viewed through a fictional medium, or described as “less real,” is not enough if the work also provides evidence contradicting the premise of that transcendence. Likewise, statements that something is a “higher plane,” “higher world,” “more real,” “outside the story,” or “beyond space-time” are insufficient on their own unless supported by context showing what kind of superiority is actually being described."
Assuming the "world" is at least multiversal leads to a couple of issues. One of which is Asriel's hypergoner feat, where "world" >= 2-B is used in a blog to justify Asriel actually erasing the timeline (since the world ending soon after should debunk this). One of the issues with this is that the save file still counts time after the timeline is destroyed. This should've been used as evidence for a downgrade instead of an upscale for the cosmology.
Actually i'm not sure if we can prove false r>f
Yeah man those arguments aren't it
Not at all, but that's a story for another day.
That would be if we didn't have a direct statement about the timeline being destroyed or the fact that the save files exist outside of the timeline
I genuinely can't understand what you're trying to say, sorry
Uhhhhh, you do know that the universe is 4d because of time right? Are you trying to argue that undertale lacks a 3rd spatial dimension or that time doesn't exist in undertale?
What? And again L1c is 5d not 4d
Ok there is soooo much wrong with this
Yeah and undertale supporters never argued that there are more than one universe, just that the universe has multiple timelines (which is only 2-B) and a higher temporal dimension (the origin of L1c undertale)
Frisk wasn't even the one who undid everything that Asriel did, it was Asriel himself
Thought you were a fan of the Low 1-C ratings?
There kinda one tho due player controling two sets uncountable infinites timelines (player town and the save file that probally arent our due the contract at the beginning tho)
That statement should be debunked by time existing and the statement that the world was ending. Best case scenerio Frisk restores the timeline immediately after the hypergoner destroys it.
In order for a 4D time structure to end suddenly, you need +1 time dimension. This is the justification used by the wiki to upgrade Chara slash to L1-C. But now Chara's slash suddenly destroys a 5D structure. In order for a 5D time structure to end suddenly, you need +1 time dimension. By upgrading Chara, you lose the justification that upgrades them to begin with. The evidence for 5D now becomes evidence for 6D. If you upgrade Chara slash to 6D, you get evidence for 7D, etc. This mess happens because we initially scaled Chara to 4D, so Chara should not be 4D.
Doesn't matter. For Flowey's statement to work you have to argue that Chara was removed across the entire cosmology, and any timeline/hypertimeline. This isn't what the statement implies, rather Chara isn't in the world because the world is the present.
Soo does my thing with two sets of uncountable works ?
Bold of you to assume I'd reveal my actual opinions after what happened last time.
Okay but what if there no present ?
