CC Goku vs Rimuru (June 2026)

[SageOfReason]

Match-up 1: Speed equalized

Match-up 2: Speed unequalized

Both characters will be using their strongest keys

CC Goku (SSB:UT)
vs
Rimuru (Digital Nature)

Note: Trying to figure out how to post threads took way longer than it should have

 

[RanHover60]

 

[Mbpoops]

Following…

 

[Cipher72]

And so it begins....

 

[AlexSamDen]

Uhhh, I told you to at least hold it before I finally apply the stuff from that CRT to Rimuru's profile....
Or not create this sh*t at all

Either way, iirc DBH lacks NEP Aspect 4 interaction, so they can't really do anything to DLF Rimuru who is, well, that nonexistent info

Plus, when I finally get the proper scans into gyazo, he'll also outlayer them in EE

 

[AlexSamDen]

Either way, most of the supporters are sleeping, I'm going to sleep too

Meet here, in 6-ish hours ig

 

[SageOfReason]

Uhhh, I told you to at least hold it before I finally apply the stuff from that CRT to Rimuru's profile....
Or not create this sh*t at all

Either way, iirc DBH lacks NEP Aspect 4 interaction, so they can't really do anything to DLF Rimuru who is, well, that nonexistent info

Plus, when I finally get the proper scans into gyazo, he'll also outlayer them in EE

Oooofffff my bad! I wasn't aware there were ongoing CRTs

On a side note, I thought only the 'Nature' part of NEP affected whether or not a character can be interacted with

 

[K'rimuru]

May God forgive me for reading this

 

[Arceus0x]

This matchup appearing between the two characters getting upgraded

 

[SageOfReason]

Me when I see my lab partner taking a bite out of the blood agar (we're performing an E.coli culturing experiment)

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Oh dear God....

 

[SageOfReason]

Oh dear God....

I think I may have made an error in judgement

 

[ReasonedZebra834]

Seriously, this is just a waste of time.

 

[SageOfReason]

If there are ongoing revisions, I am completely fine with this thread being closed for the time being.

 

[Robo432343]

um goku is 7-D and rimuru is 6-D...this is just a stomp for rimuru

 

[ARandomDude127]

Aw hell nah twin

 

[Ultimuru]

Agree with boundless Yogiri

 

[SageOfReason]

um goku is 7-D and rimuru is 6-D...this is just a stomp for rimuru

I assume you meant Goku? But then again, with what I witnessed in the Rimuru vs Alpha thread, I do believe this match might be very close. Also, haxxes (except for space-time manipulation) are no longer bound by dimensionality if I remember correctly, meaning all that matters now is the number of layers tied to the haxxes.

 

[AlexSamDen]

I assume you meant Goku?

Nah, there was no typo

That's a deliberate one from Robo

 

[Vietthai96]

Either way, iirc DBH lacks NEP Aspect 4 interaction, so they can't really do anything to DLF Rimuru who is, well, that nonexistent info

Thar is not how aspect work, Goku with NEP2 interaction can still physically interact with Rimuru, lacking info just mean Goku can't info 2 hax him, though Time Power can still info 2 hax Demon and Demon Realm, those lack Info 2 as well

I don't care who win or lose anyway

 

[AlexSamDen]

On a side note, I thought only the 'Nature' part of NEP affected whether or not a character can be interacted with

Aspects also matter, however usually less so

If you can interact with NEP1 Aspect 2 and your opponent is NEP1 All Aspects, you can only interact with their concept (that's what Aspect 2 is responsible for)

But here comes in play the peculiar relationship of Tensura, and by extension Rimuru, with Information. Due to how their fundamental aspects work, to interact with anything you have to interact with info first

 

[AlexSamDen]

Thar is not how aspect work, Goku with NEP2 interaction can still physically interact with Rimuru, lacking info just mean Goku can't info 2 hax him, though Time Power can still info 2 hax Demon and Demon Realm, those lack Info 2 as well

I don't care who win or lose anyway

He can't interact with information of a person who's fundamental aspects require information to affect

I'm not saying it works that way in general
Just some specifics on a character's mechanics

 

[Vietthai96]

He can't interact with information of a person who's fundamental aspects require information to affect

?. Wdym?.

I'm not saying it works that way in general
Just some specifics on a character's mechanics

Bruhh, show me how the verse establish there mechanic then

 

[BoastJr]

Tensura Bros Told me that Rimuru has 1,000,000,0000,000 (333) Layers



Rimuru stomps

 

[AlexSamDen]

?. Wdym?.

Layered bodily aspects

Like Spiritual Body → Astral Body → Soul → Core

And to interact with the next one, you have to interact with the previous

And one of those is info beside all others

Bruhh, show me how the verse establish there mechanic then

This is for the basic stuff

• The core is the most fundamental part of the soul and it defines the person's Concept (Type 1) and Information (Type 2), whereas the soul by itself is only Information (Type 2)according to the following explanation:
  • A soul is crystallized energy defining one's collective consciousness, thoughts, ideas, virtual memory, they also cover the Spiritual and Astral Body as well as their skills, all of which are made of Information
  • A core or heart, however, defines their Information Particles, even their Skills also comes from it, as well as their Conceptual self, without the core Spiritual Lifeforms would experience true death where they cannot regenerate or resurrect from. An Ego is a set of wavelengths defining a person's being, so that they can take action even if their Core has no energy, and it exists deeper than anything else, beyond their Soul, Information, and Conceptual Self.

• Abstract Existence (Type 1)
  • Information (Type 2- Those who can exist as souls can exist in this state and a soul is always defining someone's Information)

And this is for advanced

• Passive Enhanced Information Manipulation (Type 2; Digital Lifeforms directly manipulate information and information particles, everything, from their existence to their actions is based on the manipulation of information and information particles. Information particle and information are the fundamental aspect of Tensura and all things such as Mind, Soul, and Abstract things like Skills are made up of it.)

 

[Humanitus_Primevilus888]

Tensura Bros Told me that Rimuru has 1,000,000,0000,000 (333) Layers



Rimuru stomps

That is 10 trillion dawg Ngl it doesn’t change anything since Rimuru with turn null will have immeasurable ep

 

[Bahaha]

Tensura Bros Told me that Rimuru has 1,000,000,0000,000 (333) Layers



Rimuru stomps

soon tensura will have thousands of layers for every hax

 

[QualifiedDunlin100]

Aspects also matter, however usually less so

If you can interact with NEP1 Aspect 2 and your opponent is NEP1 All Aspects, you can only interact with their concept (that's what Aspect 2 is responsible for)

But here comes in play the peculiar relationship of Tensura, and by extension Rimuru, with Information. Due to how their fundamental aspects work, to interact with anything you have to interact with info first

Aspect is not nature
Aspect is just well an Aspect of its nature
Goku seem to have nep2 Interaction and god, when did THE goku become this jacked? Is this another series
7D? With alot of hax? The same goku who changes hair color to fight?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Aspect is not nature
Aspect is just well an Aspect of its nature

Here is the thing, Information is the root of everything in Tensura, that means that this aspect of ENP is the most important part, without it he can't interact with Rimuru,, nor a large part of his arsenal...

 

[QualifiedDunlin100]

Here is the thing, Information is the root of everything in Tensura, that means that this aspect of ENP is the most important part, without it he can't interact with Rimuru,, nor a large part of his arsenal...

This doesn't mean anything
You gained nep nature 2 DUE to that
Unless somehow you can prove layers, goku can indeed interact with you, just that he cant manipulate your information since well he cant
But i get the whole ability aspect type, but that's purely inconsistent
Unless you are saying all of rimuru abilities are nep which isn't what the thread used

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

This doesn't mean anything
You gained nep nature 2 DUE to that
Unless somehow you can prove layers, goku can indeed interact with you, just that he cant manipulate your information since well he cant
But i get the whole ability aspect type, but that's purely inconsistent
Unless you are saying all of rimuru abilities are nep which isn't what the thread used

Rimuru himself is information, so not being able to interact with it means that he can't interact with Rimuru.

And yes, a large amount of RImuru's abilities are with the none existence infromation, since it is the "void energy" itself.

 

[Vietthai96]

i don't understand here, he is information, but lack information, that is contradictory. If he is information then Goku can interact with him, if he lack it then Goku can't info 2 hax him, but can still interact with him, unless there are some NEP layers

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

i don't understand here, he is information, but lack information, that is contradictory. If he is information then Goku can interact with him, if he lack it then Goku can't info 2 hax him, but can still interact with him, unless there are some NEP layers

It's a jumbled mess right now, but we are working on a page to better explain it.

But to summarize, He is information particles, whose information has been erased.

(Information itself can be both existent (positive energy) and non-existent (negative/void energy), but the Abyss erases both of them, only leaving the shell.

So yes, that is why it's confusing... (I hope I explained it simple enough, I would be happy to explain it more if needed)

 

[Vietthai96]

(Information itself can be both existent (positive energy) and non-existent (negative/void energy), but the Abyss erases both of them, only leaving the shell.

Then they simply aren't lacking information, information governs both existence and nonexistence does not make something lack information, you are making contradictory argument, either he is NEP and lack information, or he is information itself and not lacking any information

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Then they simply aren't lacking information, information governs both existence and nonexistence does not make something lack information, you are making contradictory argument, either he is NEP and lack information, or he is information itself and not lacking any information

I just suck at explaining things, and again, you are focusing on the wrong part.

I said they lack Information fully. But you either ignored that part, or my explanation sucked.

 

[Vietthai96]

But to summarize, He is information particles, whose information has been erased.

??. Like i don't know what part i have ignored, because you literally said this?. He is information, who has his information erased??. Do you see the contradiction in this reasoning?

 

[Mbpoops]

??. Like i don't know what part i have ignored, because you literally said this?. He is information, who has his information erased??. Do you see the contradiction in this reasoning?

Reminds me of NEP spatial dimensions

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

??. Like i don't know what part i have ignored, because you literally said this?. He is information, who has his information erased??. Do you see the contradiction in this reasoning?

Information particles, not information. They are 2 separate things, and why I said it's hard to explain without a proper page done.

He is an information particles whose information has been erased.

 

[Ultimuru]

Explaining Tensura mechanics to someone outside of verse be like:

 

[Vietthai96]

Information particles, not information. They are 2 separate things, and why I said it's hard to explain without a proper page done.

He is an information particles whose information has been erased.

So still information, unless you want to say to me that, information particles aren't actual information and is something else entirely. Because if there is another information that ground nonexistence then said nonexistence still have information that underpin itself, it can't lack information. It is like the concept of nonexistence doesn't make the NEP lack concept because said nonexistence is literally underpin by the concept, if it lack concept, then there will be no NEP at all, same here with information

But anyway i have explained enough, this isn't CRT or a discussion thread, a vs match

Explaining Tensura mechanics to someone outside of verse be like:

No offend, but verse mechanic isn't an excuse to make contradictory thing exist, there is still a boundary where standard and logic should not be breached