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ARGUMENT 1: DORMAMMU
Ryan Meinerding, Vice President of Visual Development and Creative Director at Marvel Studios, says Dormammu is 11D, which makes Dormammu H1C
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# ARGUMENT 2: INFINITY STONES
Doctor Strange encounters Dormammu, and only one of the stones, the Time Stone, manages to affect him. Furthermore, the book accompanying the film states that powerful entities like the Infinity Stones could frighten Dormammu, withstand his severe attacks, and even have an effect on him
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ARGUMENT 3: MCU SPIDER-MAN
After Thanos collects the 6 stones and snaps his fingers, half of the world's population begins to disappear, including Doctor Strange, StarLord, Black Panther, Wanda Maximoff, and Bucky. These individuals and others cannot resist or fight back once the stones begin to take effect. However, Spider-Man can temporarily resist the stones' influence and withstand their power for a limited time. The MCU Spider-Man is scaled to the Infinity Stones.
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ARGUMENT 4: RAIMI SPIDER-MAN > GREEN GOBLIN > MCU SPIDER-MAN
Norman > Mcu Spider-Man
Part 1: The Apartment Fight
The first fight between Tom and Norman takes place in the apartment and condominium where Tom resides. After noticing Norman's personality change, Tom is quickly subdued, without any effort or difficulty. Norman's superiority is evident throughout the battle.
As shown, Norman demonstrates overwhelming strength, easily beating and throwing Tom against the apartment walls. Furthermore, he carries Tom to the lower floor without any effort, as stated in the script itself.
Norman vs Tom ()
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The script also highlights that Tom wasn't holding back, delivering brutal blows. Even so, his punches are completely ridiculed by Norman, who even laughs maniacally during the confrontation.
Scan (https://ibb.co/KzsQhGjn)
Furthermore, Tom himself states that he suffered a serious injury during the battle, with broken ribs, which further reinforces Norman's physical dominance in the fight.
Scan (https://ibb.co/7xDdBFFs)
This analysis of the apartment fight makes it clear that Norman is superior in this confrontation, both in strength and in stamina and combat presence.
Conclusion: Norman (holding back) > Tom (full power, not holding back)
Part 2: General Context
Before the first altercation between Norman and Tom, at the moment Tom realizes the personality switch, Norman states that he saw Tom fighting for May's morals, trying to help them and "fix" them by freeing their powers. However, Norman makes it clear that he wouldn't allow that to happen, stating that they don't need fixing.
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As demonstrated by the evidence presented in Part 1, Norman was clearly dominating Tom during the fight, without showing any apparent effort.
In philosophy and psychology, the concept of effort refers to the intense use of force, vigor, or mental capacity to achieve a goal or overcome obstacles.
Concept of effort (https://conceito.de/esforco)
Applying this concept to the confrontation, it is observed that Norman did not need to exert significant effort to subdue Tom, reinforcing the difference in skill level between the two during this clash.
At the end of the fight, Norman tells Tom that his weakness is morality and concludes by saying that, just as Tom tried to "fix" him, he will also "fix" Tom. Then he kills May.
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Here, it's important to understand the concept of morality, which refers to the set of norms, values, and principles that regulate human behavior in a social context.
Concept of Morality (https://mundoeducacao.uol.com.br/filosofia/moralidade.htm)
Tom possesses a well-defined individual morality, shaped by his character and personal choices. However, during the confrontation, this morality becomes a limitation, directly exploited by Norman as a strategic weakness.
Later, in his conversation with Peter 3 (Andrew) and Peter 2 (Tobey), Tom states that he wants to finish off Norman and kill him.
Tom's statement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91y4sNJ-ZsA&t=233s)
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*Killing is widely considered an immoral and illicit act, suggesting that Norman is, in fact, trying to corrupt Tom's morality. *
Killing is an immoral act
Throughout the story, Norman acts strategically to manipulate Tom, psychologically pressuring him to the point where he begins to lose his moral compass. This development reinforces that the confrontation between the two is not only physical but also ideological, with Norman trying to break the principles that define Tom as a hero.
In the final fight, Tom (who is clearly murderous) again states that he wants to kill Norman personally, saying "No, I just want to kill you myself."
Norman responds with an "Attaboy," meaning approval and encouragement from one man to another, or an animal. This response drives Tom to his state of Bloodlust.
*Scene: https://youtu.be/fEWSgfNMkjE?si=xQhT160iJqmJL2U2&t=0m10s *
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*Meaning of Attaboy: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/attaboy *
After receiving 18 punches, Norman seems to be fine, eager for more and laughing maniacally, taunting Tom. This suggests that Norman is enjoying the situation and is determined to push Tom to his limit.
*Scene: https://youtu.be/fEWSgfNMkjE?si=OuL4U4JmGMdhOCXt&t=2m12s *
*Scan: https://ibb.co/Gfz1NV0m *
The final fight between Tom and Norman is intense and reveals the complexity of the characters. Norman's response to Tom's desire to kill him suggests that he is trying to manipulate Tom into losing his morality and becoming more aggressive.
**Conclusions: Norman Holding Back > Tom Holding Back (Logical Factor)
Norman > Tom FP
Overall Conclusion: Norman > Tom**
Tobey > Norman
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Tobey is shown as superior to the Green Goblin, as in the apartment fight, and able to easily defeat him by stopping holding back.
Tobey vs Green Goblin: https://youtu.be/Rx6PDVD65CI?si=nk4DSTm8TPCtId0h
Tobey vs Green Goblin: https://youtu.be/L61Cg-ncFfU?si=G7Xrg610U0ma6129
It was declared by the Goblin that Spider-Man was Almost Invincible. And it's no wonder, the Goblin sees making Tobey suffer (Attacking his Heart) and wishing for death by attacking people he loves, like Aunt May and Mary Jane, as the solution.
Scan: https://ibb.co/7WhvWwK
Goblin's Statement: https://youtu.be/p-rnzJUIcV8?si=a5lX--mGcHLSPvXP
Scan: https://ibb.co/qRTNqFX
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It is stated in the SM1 novel that in the final battle, when Tobey stopped holding back, his strength only returned him to his base level, because the reason Goblin got the upper hand initially was because Tobey was desperately nerfed. It was also stated that, to save himself, Goblin removed his mask and that, if Tobey had landed the final punch, he would have dislocated his jaw anyway.
*Scan: https://ibb.co/3cyRKcy *
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*Scan: https://ibb.co/9b5QFnG *
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Ryan Meinerding, Vice President of Visual Development and Creative Director at Marvel Studios, says Dormammu is 11D, which makes Dormammu H1C
** https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/up...504-080567da-109b-4989-b0f0-b04edb0d7508.jpeg **
** https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System **
# ARGUMENT 2: INFINITY STONES
Doctor Strange encounters Dormammu, and only one of the stones, the Time Stone, manages to affect him. Furthermore, the book accompanying the film states that powerful entities like the Infinity Stones could frighten Dormammu, withstand his severe attacks, and even have an effect on him
** **
** https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11140/111403694/9800732-untitled3.jpg **
ARGUMENT 3: MCU SPIDER-MAN
After Thanos collects the 6 stones and snaps his fingers, half of the world's population begins to disappear, including Doctor Strange, StarLord, Black Panther, Wanda Maximoff, and Bucky. These individuals and others cannot resist or fight back once the stones begin to take effect. However, Spider-Man can temporarily resist the stones' influence and withstand their power for a limited time. The MCU Spider-Man is scaled to the Infinity Stones.
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ARGUMENT 4: RAIMI SPIDER-MAN > GREEN GOBLIN > MCU SPIDER-MAN
Norman > Mcu Spider-Man
Part 1: The Apartment Fight
The first fight between Tom and Norman takes place in the apartment and condominium where Tom resides. After noticing Norman's personality change, Tom is quickly subdued, without any effort or difficulty. Norman's superiority is evident throughout the battle.
As shown, Norman demonstrates overwhelming strength, easily beating and throwing Tom against the apartment walls. Furthermore, he carries Tom to the lower floor without any effort, as stated in the script itself.
Norman vs Tom ()
Scan (https://ibb.co/bjtZpb8r)
Scan (https://ibb.co/s9LxDDQz)
Scan (https://ibb.co/zT5vv4m6)
Scan (https://ibb.co/Jjtcf5rP)
The script also highlights that Tom wasn't holding back, delivering brutal blows. Even so, his punches are completely ridiculed by Norman, who even laughs maniacally during the confrontation.
Scan (https://ibb.co/KzsQhGjn)
Furthermore, Tom himself states that he suffered a serious injury during the battle, with broken ribs, which further reinforces Norman's physical dominance in the fight.
Scan (https://ibb.co/7xDdBFFs)
This analysis of the apartment fight makes it clear that Norman is superior in this confrontation, both in strength and in stamina and combat presence.
Conclusion: Norman (holding back) > Tom (full power, not holding back)
Part 2: General Context
Before the first altercation between Norman and Tom, at the moment Tom realizes the personality switch, Norman states that he saw Tom fighting for May's morals, trying to help them and "fix" them by freeing their powers. However, Norman makes it clear that he wouldn't allow that to happen, stating that they don't need fixing.
Scan ()
Scan (https://ibb.co/d45vvysZ)
Scan (https://ibb.co/dZvhzhq)
As demonstrated by the evidence presented in Part 1, Norman was clearly dominating Tom during the fight, without showing any apparent effort.
In philosophy and psychology, the concept of effort refers to the intense use of force, vigor, or mental capacity to achieve a goal or overcome obstacles.
Concept of effort (https://conceito.de/esforco)
Applying this concept to the confrontation, it is observed that Norman did not need to exert significant effort to subdue Tom, reinforcing the difference in skill level between the two during this clash.
At the end of the fight, Norman tells Tom that his weakness is morality and concludes by saying that, just as Tom tried to "fix" him, he will also "fix" Tom. Then he kills May.
Scene ()
Scan (https://ibb.co/gLz7hxPQ)
Here, it's important to understand the concept of morality, which refers to the set of norms, values, and principles that regulate human behavior in a social context.
Concept of Morality (https://mundoeducacao.uol.com.br/filosofia/moralidade.htm)
Tom possesses a well-defined individual morality, shaped by his character and personal choices. However, during the confrontation, this morality becomes a limitation, directly exploited by Norman as a strategic weakness.
Later, in his conversation with Peter 3 (Andrew) and Peter 2 (Tobey), Tom states that he wants to finish off Norman and kill him.
Tom's statement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91y4sNJ-ZsA&t=233s)
Scan (https://ibb.co/BHcF4P0b)
*Killing is widely considered an immoral and illicit act, suggesting that Norman is, in fact, trying to corrupt Tom's morality. *
Killing is an immoral act
Throughout the story, Norman acts strategically to manipulate Tom, psychologically pressuring him to the point where he begins to lose his moral compass. This development reinforces that the confrontation between the two is not only physical but also ideological, with Norman trying to break the principles that define Tom as a hero.
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Norman responds with an "Attaboy," meaning approval and encouragement from one man to another, or an animal. This response drives Tom to his state of Bloodlust.
*Scene: https://youtu.be/fEWSgfNMkjE?si=xQhT160iJqmJL2U2&t=0m10s *
*Scan: https://ibb.co/1G6jk9xW *
*Meaning of Attaboy: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/attaboy *
After receiving 18 punches, Norman seems to be fine, eager for more and laughing maniacally, taunting Tom. This suggests that Norman is enjoying the situation and is determined to push Tom to his limit.
*Scene: https://youtu.be/fEWSgfNMkjE?si=OuL4U4JmGMdhOCXt&t=2m12s *
*Scan: https://ibb.co/Gfz1NV0m *
The final fight between Tom and Norman is intense and reveals the complexity of the characters. Norman's response to Tom's desire to kill him suggests that he is trying to manipulate Tom into losing his morality and becoming more aggressive.
**Conclusions: Norman Holding Back > Tom Holding Back (Logical Factor)
Norman > Tom FP
Overall Conclusion: Norman > Tom**
Tobey > Norman
Understood. Here is the text with the corrected style, maintaining all links and the original structure:
Tobey is shown as superior to the Green Goblin, as in the apartment fight, and able to easily defeat him by stopping holding back.
Tobey vs Green Goblin: https://youtu.be/Rx6PDVD65CI?si=nk4DSTm8TPCtId0h
Tobey vs Green Goblin: https://youtu.be/L61Cg-ncFfU?si=G7Xrg610U0ma6129
It was declared by the Goblin that Spider-Man was Almost Invincible. And it's no wonder, the Goblin sees making Tobey suffer (Attacking his Heart) and wishing for death by attacking people he loves, like Aunt May and Mary Jane, as the solution.
Scan: https://ibb.co/7WhvWwK
Goblin's Statement: https://youtu.be/p-rnzJUIcV8?si=a5lX--mGcHLSPvXP
Scan: https://ibb.co/qRTNqFX
Scan: https://ibb.co/vJQf01J
It is stated in the SM1 novel that in the final battle, when Tobey stopped holding back, his strength only returned him to his base level, because the reason Goblin got the upper hand initially was because Tobey was desperately nerfed. It was also stated that, to save himself, Goblin removed his mask and that, if Tobey had landed the final punch, he would have dislocated his jaw anyway.
*Scan: https://ibb.co/3cyRKcy *
*Scan: https://ibb.co/MRQPvqW *
*Scan: https://ibb.co/9b5QFnG *
*Scan: https://ibb.co/ZSLYbRJ *
