Project Moon Discussion 2

[First_Witch]

Wonderlab has been officially decanonified

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

4th Match flame Yi Sang think he got invited lmao

 

[Ubdon]

Wonderlab has been officially decanonified

Yey I can skip reading this

 

[Ubdon]

"Node 1 - Heishou & Middle Pecca Node 2 - Ying Long Node 3 - Scissors Node 4 - Distorted Hohenheim Node 5 - Shiomi Yoru Node 6 - Callisto Node 7 - Rien Node 8 - Butterfly"

We are SOOO cooked

 

[First_Witch]

"Node 1 - Heishou & Middle Pecca Node 2 - Ying Long Node 3 - Scissors Node 4 - Distorted Hohenheim Node 5 - Shiomi Yoru Node 6 - Callisto Node 7 - Rien Node 8 - Butterfly"

We are SOOO cooked

Im gonna be fine

 

[Ubdon]

Im gonna be fine

It's 2 team

 

[First_Witch]

It's 2 team

That works too

 

[Ubdon]

That works too

there is ying long

prepare 4 teams

 

[First_Witch]

3 is in, 4 is hard without repeat iDs

 

[Steve1775]

"Node 1 - Heishou & Middle Pecca Node 2 - Ying Long Node 3 - Scissors Node 4 - Distorted Hohenheim Node 5 - Shiomi Yoru Node 6 - Callisto Node 7 - Rien Node 8 - Butterfly"

We are SOOO cooked

So like no Valencina or Matthias? Will it be similar to previous RR where we can't select previous teams?

 

[ElajRuengies]

I'm in Urban Legend and I already see why people ship Roland and Angela.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

"Node 1 - Heishou & Middle Pecca Node 2 - Ying Long Node 3 - Scissors Node 4 - Distorted Hohenheim Node 5 - Shiomi Yoru Node 6 - Callisto Node 7 - Rien Node 8 - Butterfly"

We are SOOO cooked

Valencina and Matthias joined Death Maggot of "not included in the new RR" lmaooooo

I can't wait for Yinglong and Butterfly themes

 

[Ubdon]

Valencina and Matthias joined Death Maggot of "not included in the new RR" lmaooooo

There is theory that it's because in md they had weakness while rien and callisto were neutral

Other one is that they way harder so it' sorta fair

 

[Ubdon]

So like no Valencina or Matthias? Will it be similar to previous RR where we can't select previous teams?

They said there will be restrictions in section 3 and 4 could be 2 or 3 teams

 

[Mbpoops]

Yesing

 

[Ubdon]

3 is in, 4 is hard without repeat iDs

Alr level up some ids and we all putting highest larp outpud on 28

 

[First_Witch]

Winrated through the RR. Really close to the 111 Turn goal

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

We meme'd Heishouslop for so long that KJH finally gave us the karma by fighting the Heishou team right in the middle of Yinglong fight who is right now smoking our poor doodoo asses

Speaking of Yinglong, can we calculate his first form size? That might resulting a decent value for the AP

 

[Ubdon]

Done with rr6, s7 ticket got me copy of pinky ryoshu which is alright but then I decided to treat myself with 1 10 pull cuz this rr is such a pain and funny enough got matthias.

 

[Ubdon]

We meme'd Heishouslop for so long that KJH finally gave us the karma by fighting the Heishou team right in the middle of Yinglong fight who is right now smoking our poor doodoo asses

Also ngl

FIRST TIME ever Pigritia is doing something (since his funny dragon is unoposed you can kill him before he nukes)

 

[Onyoury]

The surprising thing about Yinglong(WAW-5) is that his damage prediction figures are the same as Dongrang Who Denies All(TETH-5).

The sinners might have been quite strong since Canto 4.

 

[Steve1775]

The surprising thing about Yinglong(WAW-5) is that his damage prediction figures are the same as Dongrang Who Denies All(TETH-5).

The sinners might have been quite strong since Canto 4.

Strongly disagree, but you do you ig

 

[rogueprestonian]

When I find whoever made Yinglong and stuffed Lord Von and his animal soldiers in its stomach, I will beat their ass.

 

[Steve1775]

Something weird I noticed. HoS Ryoshu is still capable of killing characters even if they are stuck in time moratorium

 

[ElajRuengies]

Ruina Update: The Queen of Hatred is somehow even worse in this game than in Lobotomy Corp.

 

[AthelChan]

Ruina Update: The Queen of Hatred is somehow even worse in this game than in Lobotomy Corp.

vertical difficulty spike

 

[Ubdon]

Ruina Update: The Queen of Hatred is somehow even worse in this game than in Lobotomy Corp.

I disagree cuz ruina has firing squad

 

[Ubdon]

How Distorted Kim would've been moving against YingLong (both waw 5)

 

[ElajRuengies]

...Ruina caused my laptop to run so hot it literally turned itself off midfight with Pinocchio.

 

[First_Witch]

Slaver Hongler was not on my bingo card, but here he is.

 

[ElajRuengies]

By the way, both the Nail Deflection and the Proselyte Bullet Deflection Mach Limbillion Speed Calcs break the rule about Dodge Calcs between two evenly matched characters.

On the projectile dodging feats, or some similar page, there should be a note that it is banned to calculate the evasion of attacks between two evenly matched characters, as they are inherently contradictory to the fight surrounding it if taken at face value, and are just a trope used to exaggerate the extreme narrowness by which characters dodge attacks. It is fine if one character is clearly far superior to another and expressly allows an attack to get that close to their face before actually evading due to the sheer gap between them, or perhaps for static projectiles/techniques that they clearly outspeed such as a bullet

(They also break basic logic: Liwel's melee skills can clash with pages that insta-blitz bullets, so Liwel can insta-blitz bullets, so then why does Liwel have any ranged pages if those are dozens of times slower than them?

Or Yi Sang can insta-block nails, Yi Sang can clash with Inquisitors, so Inquisitors are throwing tiny projectiles hundreds of times slower than they can throw hands, somehow.)

 

[First_Witch]

By the way, both the Nail Deflection and the Proselyte Bullet Deflection Mach Limbillion Speed Calcs break the rule about Dodge Calcs between two evenly matched characters.

Its not just that rule.

(They also break basic logic: Liwel's melee skills can clash with pages that insta-blitz bullets, so Liwel can insta-blitz bullets, so then why does Liwel have any ranged pages if those are dozens of times slower than them?

BeCauSe rOlaND SAiD ThAt ANy ToP TiEr CAn DeAl WiTh GuNs and that was apparently a free ticket to ignore that guns are literally used by top tiers but apparently shooting bullets that would move in slow motion is not something that breaks PMoons logic wide open

Or Yi Sang can insta-block nails, Yi Sang can clash with Inquisitors, so Inquisitors are throwing tiny projectiles hundreds of times slower than they can throw hands, somehow.)

That calc is luckily not used anywhere.

 

[ElajRuengies]

Its not just that rule.

The funniest thing was seeing DMUA be the one to make that post and also be the one to evaluate the speed calcs.

BeCauSe rOlaND SAiD ThAt ANy ToP TiEr CAn DeAl WiTh GuNs and that was apparently a free ticket to ignore that guns are literally used by top tiers but apparently shooting bullets that would move in slow motion is not something that breaks PMoons logic wide open

I mean, Stephen's page does note [and foes who are relatively powerful tend to dodge shots like it’s nothing, and I can barely graze ‘em…], but it also says [There’s not a lot of ways to react to enemies closing in, either. You’d have to be quick on the draw and shoot them in the weak spots]; the fact that he notes draw speed implies there's a degree of aim dodging most people can pull off, also evidenced by the fact that they can even be grazed by bullets at all.

In other words, Mach 250 Proselytes is still nuts.

That calc is luckily not used anywhere.

Still shouldn't be on the page.

 

[First_Witch]

The funniest thing was seeing DMUA be the one to make that post and also be the one to evaluate the speed calcs.

Son probably forgot he did.

I mean, Stephen's page does note [and foes who are relatively powerful tend to dodge shots like it’s nothing, and I can barely graze ‘em…], but it also says [There’s not a lot of ways to react to enemies closing in, either. You’d have to be quick on the draw and shoot them in the weak spots]; the fact that he notes draw speed implies there's a degree of aim dodging most people can pull off, also evidenced by the fact that they can even be grazed at all.

In other words, Mach 250 is still nuts.

Its VSB brainrot to take the absolute highest possible interpretation and just run with it. Rolands statement makes sense even if the speed difference is just 50% higher, let alone 10 times higher. But the way the calc (and anyone that seriously considered these to be valid) treats guns would lead you to believe that Roland can do entire fights in the time it takes for a single of Li Weis shot to leave the barrel.

Still shouldn't be on the page.

100%

 

[Steve1775]

How do you guys get rid of heishou slop on section 2 of RR. I try to target Hong Lu but mao faust and a random heishou always blocks me anytime I do so

 

[Steve1775]

Suffice to say. I'm scared for the next RR where we'll have to fight Ryoshu and the HoS team

 

[First_Witch]

How do you guys get rid of heishou slop on section 2 of RR. I try to target Hong Lu but mao faust and a random heishou always blocks me anytime I do so

You winrate and pray to god.

 

[Ubdon]

How do you guys get rid of heishou slop on section 2 of RR. I try to target Hong Lu but mao faust and a random heishou always blocks me anytime I do so

Pigrita + aoe ego

Heishou would help with speed but furioso sinking has huge damage here

 

[Ubdon]

But the way the calc (and anyone that seriously considered these to be valid) treats guns would lead you to believe that Roland can do entire fights in the time it takes for a single of Li Weis shot to leave the barrel.

He can (in story that he told netz while he was high on enke)

 

[Steve1775]

Pigrita + aoe ego

Heishou would help with speed but furioso sinking has huge damage here

Yeah, I should have done that instead of ragequitting when I saw lordlu having a staggering 12 on speed